J. Edgar Hoover

[PetiteDuality]

Does Joe Smith of Buzzards Bladder North crossdresses? I would have not imagined.

I always thought that Obama crossdresses. That's the only explanation for such abs in a president

[Shiny]

Your observation was an interesting one and like they say where there's smoke, there's usually fire. Yes, I would say that Hoover was a crossdresser. Even though it's obvious that over time people have tried to protect the man by diluting or obfuscating the accounts of the "frumpy black dress" or the "red dress" incidents it's hard to dismiss the fact that most of the accounts come from people of high standing and from a few media reporters of the time who's accounts were usually beyond reproach. But as the coverup began and continues it goes to show just how much power the man wielded!

But J. Edgar Hoover's problems were far deeper and darker than his "alleged" cross dressing or homosexuality. He compiled "files" on virtually everyone else who could hurt him, anyone in power or status. That way he could maintain both his hold on his power and keep his sexual proclivities secret by holding all those "skeletons in the closet" he had against everyone else!

It's interesting to note that Hoover also had a fascination with under-cover operations and his under-cover operatives. He often sent men out dressed as women on assignments for the FBI! His attention to detail in ladies fashions and accessories was well known and displayed a nearly "fetish" level of interest. He'd hire costume artists and dressmakers and makeup artists to work with his chosen men who would go on these assignments as well. Nearly every man who worked under Hoover hated this aspect of their jobs but to get along they went along. If they risked Hoover's wrath they knew their careers would soon be over and they would be on the street---without references. Because if you got on Hoover's bad side his smear tactics were brutal and it is whispered in several books that he also had control of what we now know as "Black-Ops" operatives to carry out his wishes.

The real problems came when Hoover took a liking to someone for whatever reason. I read a report on one man in his organization, a man in the FBI from Minnesota named Burt Horgeson. Described as a tall good looking man of Nordic heritage in his early to mid 20's.

Hoover began sending Horgeson out on assignments dressed as a woman. Horgeson put up with it for a while but then began to complain as Hoover fussed with his appearance worrying about his look as he picked out matching pumps and seamed nylons and hats and accessories for Horgeson's dresses. Hoover noted the complaint then told the man that if he didn't comply and do his job then he would be out of the FBI. Hoover also mentioned the man's family living back in Minnesota (a veiled threat to be sure)!

But it didn't end there! Hoover's fascination with Mr. Horgeson continued into the most bizarre and actual account of "forced feminization" ever put on record! He made Mr. Horgeson continue on working in full drag for weeks then months at a time. He then had him get an apartment and assume a ladies name. This was enforced by the other men on the FBI who were instructed and ordered to do so by Hoover. There was a short note about the laws back in the 1930's saying that it was then illegal for a man to wear women's clothing (deception for illegal activities being cited most). And it was illegal for a woman to wear men's clothing. To get his way and keep Horgeson in line Hoover had all of Mr. Horgeson's paperwork changed to indicate he was a female! Thus he was forced by law and the still present "G-men" working directly for Hoover to continue not only dressing but living full time as a woman!

The story ends with Horgeson never getting his male status back. He was listed by Hoover as an agent with "sensitive information" in the interest of "National security." Horgeson ended up dying in the early 1970's in a government sponsored old-folks-home still under Hoover's edict!

This single aspect of J. Edgar Hoover above all the others that was known about the man has been called "...the worst abuse of power ever held by any one single man."

I think part of Hoover's mystic and or power or most of it, came from the fact that the man had secrets (crossdressing/homosexuality) to hide. HIs records not only gave him his power and kept him on the job for over 50 years as head of the FBI, they also kept those away that would bring up any inference that he was a crossdresser or homosexual.

The day Hoover died his personal secretary burned stacks of secret files Hoover had and burned them in his personal fireplace in his living room at his home. Secrets that went way beyond simple investigation of noting corruption or bribe taking by officials---she was buring all of Hoovers records on the sexual activities and secrets of others in power or public office! I am sure Clyde Tolson knew all about those files too.

They say Hoover grew up alone and dressed like a "dandy," the swishing fairy of the times. He was never seen with women and was only seen with his close "associate" Clyde Tolson. They are even buried side by side! It goes back to the "where there's smoke there's fire" rule. But during Hoover's life, nobody dared to even breath a word or raise an eyebrow in his presense. In the end it's that total power that is really scary!