Babies Are Not Us :(

[SuzanneBender]

I must give credit where credit is due. RenieD posts some of the most thought provoking comments on this site. Her GG perspective in contrast to our TG ways always makes me think, often makes me smile and sometimes even causes a tear to come to my eye.

She posted this in an earlier thread:

There was only one time in my life I felt as you describe though, the first time I got pregnant. It seemed miraculous to me that my body could create life.

I was thinking about watching the Mom on the plane last week wrestling as only a mother could with her cute little girl and little boy. I think about all of the times that I have watched mothers look into their baby’s eyes and connect in a way that only a mother can connect. I am a father and have a wonderful relationship with my children. I consider myself very nurturing, but I can never even aspire to the level of nurturing that my wife shows our children. I must admit I am envious. I wish I could know the joy of the miracle of a life growing within you and the connection with the child that comes with that. I know it will never happen and that I shouldn't lament things that will never happen. I also know that pregnancy and motherhood are far from being all peaches and cream, but if I could I would do it tomorrow! Would you?

[rocketscientist]

With new medical advances,it MIGHT someday be possible. I think that the miracle of giving birth is indeed a special thing and one could only know having experienced it. Would I want to do it? If the circumstances were right, yes I would. Hugs, Tonya

[PetiteDuality]

This is something that I think mankind should never attempt to experiment with.

Just my humble opinion...

[Nicole Erin]

I can already see how this is going to play out so here is my response -
I would not, I am not really nurturing.

So now let us speculate:
Other's various responses -

"Erin, you are not a real tranny if you don't love kids"

"I pass and live my life as a woman"

QUOTE - blah blah blah
"I could not have said it better, I agree"

My tyrant ex husband was hiding his secret and lied for years

And just what do YOU know about it...?

There is a recessive gene that lives in the verticies of the pythagorean phynelketonurs that cause oblongocity that may be linked to nurturing.

Funny my wife and I were having this same conversation.

[kellycan27]

I would enjoy having children one day, but I have no illusions about actually birthing them from within. Had I been born a GG.. that would be a different story.
Nicole Your posts always cheer me up.... upon reading them I always count my blessings.

Kelly

[sandra-leigh]

So now let us speculate:
Other's various responses - [...]

There is a recessive gene that lives in the verticies of the pythagorean phynelketonurs that cause oblongocity that may be linked to nurturing.

Except that I would have included a citation


(I'm not especially nurturing either. "Whadday mean you can't tie your shoes? Didn't you Google it?!?")

[SuzanneBender]

I can already see how this is going to play out so here is my response -
I would not, I am not really nurturing.

So now let us speculate:
Other's various responses -

"Erin, you are not a real tranny if you don't love kids"

"I pass and live my life as a woman"

QUOTE - blah blah blah
"I could not have said it better, I agree"

My tyrant ex husband was hiding his secret and lied for years

And just what do YOU know about it...?

There is a recessive gene that lives in the verticies of the pythagorean phynelketonurs that cause oblongocity that may be linked to nurturing.

Funny my wife and I were having this same conversation.

Nicole you took all the fun out of this thread. I will never tell you what book I am reading because I am sure that you will tell me how it ends.

Ohhh and you are not a real trannys unless you love kids. See you started a self fulfilling prophecy.

I would enjoy having children one day, but I have no illusions about actually birthing them from within. Had I been born a GG.. that would be a different story.

Nicole Your posts always cheer me up.... upon reading them I always count my blessings.

Kelly

Kelly I am sure you will be a fabulous mom one day. I know that birthing them from within isn't going to happen, but suspend reality a minute. If you could get pregnant would you want to?

[kellycan27]

Yes...In a heartbeat!

[linnea]

Suzanne, my answer is an unequivocal YES! I really appreciated reading your thoughts about this.

[Lorileah]

nope. I didn't want any as a male, not gonna say I would as female. Nope. In fact when asked if I would have children I always ask, depends on how they are prepared. I like other peoples children, sorta like I like Disneyland. It is fun for awhile but I don't want to live there

[Daniela76]

OMG yes!!
I definitely would want to bear children as a woman if it was possible.
I want kids pretty bad anyways. If I did decide to transition, I would make sure & have sperm saved for a wife to become pregnant with.

[ReineD]

It's interesting you brought this up, Suzanne.

There have been similar threads in the past.

2007: most responses were NO.

2009: a lot more yesses.

Times, they are a changin'.

[2B Natasha]

Nope. And I can parent circles around my childs mother. I can nurture circles around her if you prefer to look at it that way. I can connect in ways she'll never know or understand, and it has nothing to do with be a part time women.

[Lady Davida]

If I could be a Real Woman I'd love to be pregnant. My Wife always knew when our baby was moving inside of her and I could see it and feel it when I put my hand on her belly. As a medical professional I have witnessed births. Amazing

[PhillyGuy2Girl]

My Wife unfortunetly couldn't have children and I guess we weren't met to have children. I found out the Sunday before last Thanksgiving that I have a 21 year old duaghter from a woman I was with back in the late 80's(its a long story). If I was a GG I think I probably would like to bear children. I wish my Wife and I could've have had children because I feel that I missed out on alot. I know we could've adopted but back when we were in our late 20's and through our 30's, we liked to go out alot and come and go as we please and hang out till late night which I look back on and now regret. I have to live with it but I have my little Nieces and Nephews and I'm part of their lives



Felicity

[docrobbysherry]

Some guy said, " I have no interest in kids at all!" ( That was me!)
His friend said, "Yeah? When u have your OWN! You'll feel differently!" ( He was TOO RITE, in my case, at least!)

An old girlfriend moved in with her toddler. This soon changed my mind about kids. "Tried", and HAD one of my own with her after we were married!

My daughter's a blast! And, the "trying" was the best times of our now defunct marriage!

[Nicole Erin]

Nicole you took all the fun out of this thread. I will never tell you what book I am reading because I am sure that you will tell me how it ends.

Yeah like I know how to read.

For real tho, much like the "would you have grown up female?" speculation, I imagine for some people, TG or not, the whole "nurturing a child" thing is more of a fantasy.

The reality is - girls probably had it harder growing up and raising kids is not a real picnic. Gets easier when they grow up a bit but small children are very demanding.

[carolinoakland]

So, would I carry children to have them if I could? Yes, I would. Also, once she was weened I wound up doing the majority of the child rearing since I worked three nights a week and her mom worked five days a week. I loved every minute of that time with my daughter, I understand a woman feeling trapped by the childs breast feeding, but getting to bond with my daughter was invaluable later in out relationship. And I wound up becoming a single parent when her mom passed away...I have an evil sence of humor... I told my daughter that one of the good things about me transitioning is that I'd finally be able to give her that new mom she'd been asking me for. Carol,

[TerryTerri]

I feel (and think) that, the dad!, can be as nurturing as the mom. I'm a dad of 3 kids. A 12 year old girl (from 1 marriage) and 7 & 5 year old boys (from my current marriage that is soon to be over). It definitely changes when it is your own kids. I was 37 when my daughter was born and being older helps me be a better parent because I have more patience and many other traits older adults usually have over younger adults that help them be better parents (except energy).

Also, I honestly believe being transgendered helps me be a much better parent. I have such a higher nurturing instinct that a 'normal' guy does. I have the boys full-time and have had them full-time since before Christmas. I may have them full-time for the rest of their childhood. It's complicated. But, they are NOT lacking in any nurturing aspects and they have always been just as likely to call out for dad in the middle of the night when they had a bad dream than call out for mother. Actually, they'd usually call out for Dad because Mom was a heavier sleeper and I would wake up faster when they called. To say women are better nurturers or that men are better is sort of a sexist thing. In reality it depends a great deal on the specific parents involved.
Would I have a kid if I could become pregnant? Not anymore, I'm 49, almost 50 and too old to have more kids. My original retirement plans had to be modified because if I retired when I had planned I'd still have 14 and 16 year old sons in the house. Nope, gonna back my retirement up by about five to ten years. We'll have to see how they are with college.

[Alice Torn]

[SIZE="3"]The way this world has become, i would have to say "nope". I think there are way too many people, for the world system, based on big cities, and suburbia. My childhood years were very tramatic, too. Part of me likes throwing frisbees, playing sports, with friends' kids, and, i don't hate kids. I know i was one, and still am one!! I f i lived on a farm, and could bear a child, maybe, maybe not.[/SIZE]

[Persephone]

I'm a little too old for it now, but there was never a time in my married life when I wouldn't have wanted to have become pregnant and given birth. Would I have done it again and had a second child? That I can't answer.

I was supremely blessed, however, to be the "stay at home 'Mom'" and homemaker while my son was growing up. I took over around the time he started pre-kindergarten and had all of the responsibilities of being "Mom" (only I did it mostly as "Mr. Mom.").

Just recently my spouse, who is the breadwinner, told me that she was jealous of that.

[Kate Simmons]

To answer your question Hon:"Of course".

[JenniferR771]

The man who gave birth, did you hear about it? I didn't find the link from about a year ago. HOWEVER, the man was a transexual--who used to be a woman. Never say never. Go figure.

[Caroline22]

I crossdress only occasionally, but all the same, I crossdress and feel very feminine when dressed.
BUT, I as a male, have never wanted kids ( I have lots of nieces and nephews ) AND, even IF I could have a baby as a Woman, I would sure not want one.
Sefish, yes/maybe.
Caroline. UK.

[2b.Lauren]

I feel (and think) that, the dad!, can be as nurturing as the mom. I'm a dad of 3 kids. A 12 year old girl (from 1 marriage) and 7 & 5 year old boys (from my current marriage that is soon to be over). It definitely changes when it is your own kids.

Could not have said it better and could not agree more. I have one daughter she is now 16 and I was a stay at home dad. There was no question in either of our minds as to who was the more nurturing in our household. It simply came to me very easily. My wife was not happier than the day she went back to work after her maturnity leave. My daughter and I have a bond that is similar to that of birth mothers. I can't go as deep, but to her it is pretty close. So to maybe answer the question, yes I would in a moment.