Originally Posted by Karen7cd
WTF! ... I think you guys should concentrate on "the quality of the wine inside, not the shape of the bottle it comes in!"
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well said
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Really well it's a funny way of showing that by having a go at his wife's weight, and by saying he's a better looking woman than she is...yeah right we only have his opinion on that.
And some of you wonder why your SOs don't want anything to do with your cding, is there any wonder!!
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Nicole Erin,
Is you answer for Everything Divorce ??????????
Crazy !
Ladies , pick apart the posts , this isn't real.
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Really then why did Debs marry me last Oct ............... grow up
To the op you are damn lucky your wife only hid the car ............. I wouldda had some one tow it home ...........
Some people need to remove the Rose colored glasses they wear when they look at themselves when dressed and use the same eyesight they do when looking at the partners in a negative light
I allow myself to set healthy boundaries ..... to say no to what does not align with my values, to say yes to what does.
Boundaries assist me to remain healthy, honest and living a life that is true to me
wow , this kind of got carried away!
I was always told if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it.
always sounded like good advice to me!
People come in all sizes. Not every one can be a size 2. with that
said, I believe that beauty starts behind the eye balls. It is what
is her head, not on her shape that should attract you. An old saying
I have herd before; "You mary her Irish Temper, Not Her Red Hair"
Just my 2 cents worth. Rader
Hmm...seems I have missed all this. I seem to remember more posts that say something like "You should tell your wife to accept this or you are gone." or "Your wife should take you for what you are and suck it up" or "How could she even THINK to react that way (after she found your porn and the guy you hid under the bed while you were dressed up last time)"Well, anytime on this forum that a GG gets bashed in any ways shape or form, people are gonna freak out.
See as a general rule, it is OK for a TG to be given a hard time but we are not suppose to do it back.
I think the majority of time the CD gets the sympathy. But maybe I don't read all the posts?
Welcome Paige, but you will see that usually the way it works is in the sage wisdom of the movie Roadhouse "Be nice until it is time to not be nice"
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Wow, lots of comments and information. Karen, I am wondering if you can imagine the betrayal your wife is feeling to find out that her own sister has been helping you keep this little secret. So what happened between you and the S-I-L to make her rat you out? You say she knew you dressed did she have some rules in place that you also might have abused, maybe like don't involve my sister?
Enjoying the softer side of life!
If there are not kids involved and no property or huge bills to split, I say get out of the marriage while it will still be easiest. Someone said you are 21. I doubt you guys have anything you could really fight for in court so you can't lose much if anything. Even if it means having to cut some losses, get out now. If your wife is putting on weight, it probably won't stop at 15 extra pounds.
Plus, the bigger problem, if she is gonna act like this about you being TG, she isn't gonna start accepting, she will be wanting to put up boundries, and of course you will get insultedover it each time a fight starts.
And listen, for telling people you are TG, don't ever think people will not gossip. The only ones who would keep that a secret are other TGs and that is cause they are either in the closet or they are full time TS who have miraculously forgotten they are still genetically male and once lived as men.
Nether category of TG wants to be outed.
Well, anytime on this forum that a GG gets bashed in any ways shape or form, people are gonna freak out.
See as a general rule, it is OK for a TG to be given a hard time but we are not suppose to do it back.
People think I have it in for GG's, not the case. I will say this - I would trust a GG faster than some TG. You would not believe how often some of the TG here will pounce on their own TG sisters.
You are the most ignorant self absorbed person I have had the displeasure to meet on a forum. To hear you, his wife is a fat pig bitch who will only get worse, and he should run for the hills. Forget about the fact that she was lied to and that he went out dressed after promising her that he was never going to do it again.. Regardless of what you think, the whole world doesnt understand this. I myself am just coming to terms with what I am.. Yes, WHAT, not WHO.. I know who I am.. But what that means as to the "Label driven society" is another ball game.. I can't expect my wife to understand this as much or more than I do, when I lied to her, and kept it secret for over 15 years.. think about it.. As far as his wife is concerned, this was some fetish that he supposedly stopped doing. Now, as to reality, I believe this is a trolling post. to get everyone riled up, but you did a much better job than the troll did.. so congrats..
Even if you ARE the sharpest tool in the shed, your still a tool.
Pastors can be oddly sympathetic. However, I'd quit the church if it gets too awkward or if you'll never gain acceptance. As the member of a previously troubled marriage, divorce is not the end of the world. You probably won't ever be over this even with therapy. The best you'll ever get is control but you'll never enjoy anything else quite like this. If your wife can't accept it, I say move on to find someone who can. Just make sure to tell the next person you date before you get married. Having a fat wife doesn't excuse crossdressing but it does equate on some level. Your wife was displeased with your physical appearance as you are with hers. Obesity and crossdressing are a choice so I wouldn't feel too guilty there.
Karen I'd like to give you a kudos for keeping your cool despite all the mud slinging going on in here. No one here knows your wife so I don't really see why we should care if you're honest.
Last edited by ReineD; 01-25-2010 at 04:04 AM. Reason: Merging two consecutive posts. Please use the EDIT button if you wish to add an afterthought. :)
Just to let you know, on most days there are more anonymous visitors to this site than there are members who are logged in. Some of them are wives who perhaps have just found out their husbands CD.
A post such as the OP's does not give a good first impression of what TGs are all about. But, the majority of responses in this thread will redress any potential misinterpretations.
Reine
Better to be thought a fool,#@%^$, then to say something and remove all doubt. Wow I hope your wife finds this site so she realizes. She married a jerk who cross dresses. I honestly think you need to work on accepting your reality before you work on repairing the relationship with your wife. If she would even want to Once a person has been lied to by someone that claims to Love them things are never quite the same. Good luck.
Later Scarlet.
Yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of reading GF bashing. The icing on the cake is when it's topped with woe-is-me purposes.
"My wife is fat and disgusting. Nobody in their right mind would want her. I look way better than her en femme. Why oh why doesn't she accept me?"
thats how I see it.... and he also broke rules 1 and 2..NEVER trust family with PERSONAL secrets
and 2: NEVER EVER GIVE A SPARE SET OF KEYS TO YOUR CAR TO ANYONE!!!! have a spare set for emergencys like when you cant find your masterset, but the emergency set is hidden on the vehicle somehwere only you can find... be that under a body panel like a fuel door, or attached to a frame rail ect...
so rather than continuing this lecture.... how about i sic my wife on you.... dood she would tear you apart... and she for the record is 5'5, 155lbs, but 46 days ago was 196 lbs... and if you were "enfemme" AKA probably looked like a TV.. and called her fat, you would be staring down the barrel of a .40 S&W... and she would have had 13 hollow points, 1 of which would be chambered and ready to fire.. and thats no lie... ive done less and gotten the same treatment...
as for your little purge.... your stupid... what a waist.. you said that they were her clothes from the get go... so she is now also out her clothes as well.... doubling her frustration
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[SIZE="3"]Wow... what a thread! So to sum it all up, the OP obviously went out dressed despite knowing the wife might find out and would be upset. So you're purposefully deceiving your wife (why else have spare clothes, wipes, etc in your car) and are amazed she's upset? You're bitching about her telling the Pastor but you have no problems going to lunch and spending "girl time" with her sister? You don't think THAT might be an issue? No, of course not. Its ONLY about the dressing. It could never be about the lying, the humiliation or the fact that you seem to prefer her sister's time over hers. In case you didn't read that correctly, its called sarcasm.
And perhaps you don't look as good as you think you do if your wife feels you looked more like a drag queen than a woman. Just like you don't think she looks good because she's a WHOLE 15 lbs heavier. How sad that someone is so shallow as to publicly put down someone they claim to love.
But then there's this:
Nicole, I'm really disappointed with this post. You know, when I first started reading your comments, they were light hearted, sincere and funny. You were a very no-nonsense kind of person. But this post is just...depressing. Its obvious your general attitude lately has taken on a great deal of sadness and I feel for you.
Yet posting that everything is one sided on a forum like this is rather silly don't you think? I mean, first off, the majority of people on the forums are TG (TG being the encompassing TS and CD definition here). There's no way they are not going to get the majority of the bashing when they are the majority. Of those on here that are not TG, 99% are GGs (as such a small percentage are family and/or friends). The GGs on this forum are here to either understand their partner and/or support them. This already makes those of us here NOT YOUR FRIKKEN ENEMY! THAT'S why GG bashing in here gets pounced upon! Because WE are supporting this community and if you want to pick on a group of people how about it NOT be in front of those who are trying to HELP!
I'm sorry but its extremely hurtful that you have to say something like that and make it sound as if no one on here says anything bad about GGs. Obviously the OP did and damn right he should be pounced on. 15 frikken pounds. Oh boo frikken hoo! And to think there are some on here who cannot even find a partner much less bitch about their love handles. As if everyone on here has a perfect body and therefore has any right!
Sorry Nicole, I think that your comment of immediately seeking a divorce as oppose to attempting to work something out with someone you love is very cynical and reflects a lot of what you are personally experiencing. I also think that your comment regarding GGs only stands to prove that you are letting it make you very bitter in the world. And that is not good my friend. Not at all. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE="3"]"We're all born naked. Everything we wear is drag," said Boy George
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I had a very similar thing happen to me with my ex. Her and a bunch of her friends got a hold of a picture CD that I had burned several years ago. There were 5 or 6 pictures of me in all out drag (makeup,heels,skinny jeans, bra, etc...). Apparently her sister was the first to see, and that stupid bitch decided not to tell anyone what she saw, and gathered her whole family around the 50" big screen in the living room. She then proceeded to insert the disk making several comments on how much I especially would like this video. 2 seconds later the slide show started and the laughter that followed went on forever. I was totally speechless, thoughtless, mindless, and paralyzed from my eyeballs down. Nevertheless, my point is that all of us are Crossdressers and we share that same feeling at one point or another in our lives. Use your humiliation to begin the long and hard process of comming out to your spouse. You never know, it could have been soo much worse. Cheer up you'll be fine.
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I'm begining to see red here ...and I won't apologise for my rant either . Firstly , whats all this chatter about divorce ? I find the whole issue a bloody insult . We all have problems , but surely the first instance in any relasionship in trouble is surrender , sit down and at least try to sort things out . Even if it means bringing in a third partie to mediate . If divorce is such an easy option , then why on earth get married in the first place - not as if the oaths could have been taken that seriously was it ? I'm fed up with reading time and time again how people take the pee out of matrimoney with insults and then divorce , but worst of all deception and lies . What on earth do trannies , tv's , call em what you like expect if the SO finds out about his little " hobby " in a horrific situation ? Can't it be seen it,s not the act of wearing femanine attire , but the deception and lies that cause all the trouble . I think in support of all the GG's on here trying to help real people over coming troubles and concerns , that there should be a little more respect for starters . Calling women names is an insult . The way I see it , IF youre man enough to wear a dress then bloody well own up to it to youre partner and not act like a squeeling child when it all goes belly up . If i get a ban then I get a ban ....but it's the truth isn't it ???
Oh I am going to address one reoccuring comment. Where did I say my wife was fat. I never did. She is overweight, to the point that is is unhealthy, and painful to her joints.
She is working out and I do anything she will let me to help her. Like making good dinners, having healthy snacks, not ever saying anything to her about her weight.
I offer to workout with her. I have supplied her with a home gym, workout machines, a weight room. When I made the appearence comments, I was very hurt.
She is and I hope to always be the only and most beautiful woman in my life.
Dammit, I had a reply written out and it was eaten by my fail-computer. It boiled down to:
You're arguing semantics with the "fat" comment. Nearly everyone here, as you may have noticed, lost sympathy with you because what you said was, in fact, f**kin' WORSE than a simple "fat" comment.
Let's see it again, just for kicks:
How can you NOT think this is freakin' terrible? And then you try to justify your thoughts and words by telling us how good you (not her!) have been in trying to help her with her weight. Hysterical, you're a saint. I hope you can get some help with your relationship, but you got a long way to go with the ego you've shown here.My wife is 15 lbs heaver and 4 inches shorter than I . Her body looks terrible.
No? you just said it to 30 thousand members on this board instead... and maybe your wife will read it...
Yeah right, if you thought that, you wouldn't have bitched about her body being terrible...
Keep digging that hole, you might get out of it one day, right now, you've made yourself look like an ass.
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I guess she should have chosen her words better. I might hazard a guess that she was trying to say that she accepts her wife as she is, just wishes she would do better health wise. I am not trying to put words in any one's mouth. Just a perspective. I live with my own short comings first then everyone else's. Should she have taken his car? No I don't think so. This whole situation seems to be an out of control mess because no one is communicating on the same level.
The rules - true, those are good for anyone
And the gun talk - yeah I am sure killing someone over getting called fat is certainly worth going to prison. "Oh yeah well I have a big gun with hollow points blah blah..." Sounds like something my hick neighbors would threaten.
Gyod tough guy talk.
For her purge, what was she suppose to do? Yeah it was a bad idea but in the heat of the moment, I mean who wouldn't freak? Then again, maybe KAren had some bad choice of clothes and can rebuild a wardrobe with better things.
Ya know, I think the comment that set fire in this thread was about the wife's weight. We know GG's are real sensitive about their weight and don't need to be reminded if they don't look like Barbie. In fact, a lot of TG are too, cause come on, we tend to have elements of a female mindset as well.
few years ago I posted photos of myself, I was at my heaviest at the time and later asked how I could improve my looks. Got a couple suggesting for outfits or changing hairstyle, that is fine. Thing is, what I heard more than anything was about losing weight. Several times in PM's.
So, doesn't that kind of show that people seem to have a preference for a thin woman? I mean my kind of lady actually is a bit more on the "woman's" size, but some don't feel that way.
KAren was just stating what most guys think but are afraid to say.
Also, Karen went out en femme, which is more than what a lot of members here will do. I go out en femme and live part time as a woman.
Those who don't have the gall to get out of the closet - you have no idea what those of us "out" go thru, if we don't pass well. Or the ones that do pass, they at one time had to deal with the BS at least til they were assimilated and passing well.
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Here, here Paige!wow , this kind of got carried away!
I was always told if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it.
always sounded like good advice to me!I think it got way more than kind of carried away.
My last thought on this - this whole "story" is BS and the thread should be removed. I was so upset at this, I got a "talking to" by Holly and my post deleted (right quick too).
My questiion is -- if the story is "hot" enough to incite reactions like mine, why wouldn't the thread be taken down?
My initial reaction to this story was -- "this "lady" is AWFUL" -- and about 4 paragraphs of me being pissed off. With a little more perspective - this story has a million holes in it, and was just put on the forum to flame people up.
It should go.
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