Please don't get the wrong idea here, but out of curiosity.. Why would a lesbian make "the first move" on a man..or even a pre-op TS? I don't do gay bars so I am clueless.Originally Posted by Loni
Kel
Please don't get the wrong idea here, but out of curiosity.. Why would a lesbian make "the first move" on a man..or even a pre-op TS? I don't do gay bars so I am clueless.
Kel
I'm with Kelly on this one. Lesbians aren't attracted to CDs. They're into GGs.
Virgin, true lesbians by definition are not bi. They are attracted to GGs. Not saying there aren't bi GGs, just that they don't tend to identify themselves as being lesbian.
And ... you're playing with wildfire, IMO. Does your wife know you are going into bars and taking numbers from women who want to f**** you? If your wife is that open-minded, then just ignore me. lol. But from my perspective, there's not much difference between someone who has an interest strong enough to engage in a conversation about it and take a phone number (fodder for intense fantasies or keeping options open?), and someone who actually carries through.
Reine
Reine, Hi... and in answer to your question, my wife trusts me quite allot. I always tell her I am fallable given the right circumstances, but it hasn't happened in our 15 years of marriage. For example, and to answer one of your questions, why would I take Debbi's number: Have you ever been in one of those situations where it was easier AND KINDER to lie? Like taking someone's number with no intent to call, or for a platonic friendship conversation. I thought this is a great female to talk to about CD stuff, etc... But I never did call her. Also, the wife did give me permission to go to the bar accross the street (and I had a great T-Bone steak too, only $8.00!). I wish my wife was here in MD on assignment with me... or better I was at home working locally (AL)... but layoff's kinda screwed that up. So I am sending checks home and bored to dearh in MD, So, to get back to your inquiry; I am not sure if it was the next day or not, but it was shortly thereafter that I told my wife of the entire account (and coincindentally came out to her about my CD in the same conversation). So it was a really good event for me and gave me the confidence I needed to tell my wife how lucky she was and that she loves my other CD traits, the softer side of me, etc... I haven't been back to that bar, but if I knew Debbi would be there I would go in a NY minute, to see my "old" friend. Despite her good looks she was over 50 and full of wisdom and good life stories. We really parted friends. So to add to the description AND contradict something you said (no offense) CD's often go to gay bars for freedom from judgement... largely because there really are no "CD Bars" around. So I asked my wife if I could go to Freddies Sat night. At first she said no, it's not in the budget. Then she sofened up and said ok, just don't spend more than a "nice dinner out". I was hoping to meetup with 2 sisters for the first time and I heard Freddies was a CD freindly bar. Well, it was a dissapointment, but I was there from 11:30 to 1:30 and only spent 32.00 It was somewhat interesting so not a total waste, and it kept me busy when I would otherwise be bore to tears in my hotel room (see my "review of Freddies" in the out and about section). So does that answer your questions, and I would never ignore you... and yes, I know I am a severely lucky gurl to have such an incredible wife. But it takes two so I will take some of the credit for OUR success
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i just say let them take the first move only due to....respect if nothing else as they might like to talk...but other??..maybe they have a friend that would get more than upset? maybe just trying to not come on too strong??
maybe i have just not dated in so long, not sure about it anymore?
Thanks Loni.. I got ya now.
Kel
I had heard rumors but I have never seen any place where lesbians don't let anyone in. There are a few "rules" but they are basically the same rules you would follow anywhere. Don't look like you should be working the street (unless sit is a bar that caters to the fetish look), don't hit on another person's GF (duh), and don't act like an adolescent boy who thinks the women of the world should worship him.
I go to women's bars a lot. I don't go to men's as much. Why? Women are a lot friendlier and they don't act like I am either a) looking to get some (know what I mean...actually they act like I am there to GIVE some) or b) I am in the wrong bar. The only time I was worried about lesbians was actually in a mixed gay bar where I was frankly told to "go somewhere else" by a could women.
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Aah! I see, Virgin ... thanks for 'splainin.You and your wife sound good together.
Reine
I agree in concept with your point. In my experiences, if you make the genuine effort to respect the established acceptable conduct of the environment you are visiting, you will not encounter any problems, or be viewed as causing any for anyone else.
I have heard that some lesbian clubs do not like any transgendered girls at all. But my guess is those are clubs with a very large local clique that make it almost like a closed private party place.
However I still feel that GG's, lesbian or not are more accepting, more understanding and non-judgmental then most males gay or straight. I think if we behave ourselves, act like ladies and don't hit on anyone's girlfriend, that maybe the acceptance is even more so at a lesbian club then one for gay males.
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