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    Hows your social/love life?

    I'm like just wondering how others are faring in their social and love lives. I'm actually asking those who are single without a current (understanding or otherwise) or previous SO or partner/girlfriend/boyfriend in life before you started acting on your new or other lifestyle.
    I'm single now, after being divorced three years ago, and didn't like have too much of either social or love in my old life. Now it seems I'm like a Army of one or wutever after three years of being 24/7. I was dropped like a hot potato by many and the ones who stuck by me are like all paired up. No room for a 5th wheel in this world. It seems everything in the world is in even numbers. I have made some GG friends and they sometimes are willing to go to a movie or wutever, but almost never call me and ask if I would like to go (fill in the blank) with them. It seems I'm always the one doing the asking. Guy friends I don't need, had more than enough of that in the old life and didn't really enjoy it much then, less even now. Exception would be like as stated below.
    Which brings me to the next part. After three years or so of literally almost no social (other than the occasional "T-Girl big city group girls night out night club scene" or wutever with some of the younger 30 something gurls) I am truly tired of being alone and like most want love and/or true BGFF status from another girl. This brings up another puzzle, although I still prefer girls it seems there aren't any in mainstream or wutever that I frequent that ever suggest or make moves beyond strictly the aforementioned casual friends. I've never been with a guy, but the thought has more often than not entered my brain since I really feel this inner urge to be wanted and protected and cared by a guy. Not much luck there either, thought I had it and was like sooo totally on cloud 9 for almost three days, but was told they really couldn't "get their head wrapped around this at this time" and it ended there. I like sorta tried one of those on line meet your match thingies, but there is no category for the "T" in GLBT and heterosexual worlds. I therefore tried the guy to guy thing, but without actually joining the site (membership money) I can not get communication from the 7-8 "compatible matches" or wutever I was given
    How are others finding their soulmate/lover/partner if you are even successful at all?

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    I'm single right now after my engagement broke apart at the seams.I'm not looking for anything really mainly because whilst I have these urges to be with a man whilst dressed I don't think it would be fair on an unsuspecting gg

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    Kinda hard to date when you are slightly incorrect in certain genitalia and it kinda sorta you know screws up your head

    I have been single for over a decade but would not say no if the right man came along
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    In an effort to deny this side of me...I settled down at only 19 years old. she moved in. 9 months later that relationship blew up. Its been about a year since then, and I am still feeling the effects to this day.

    but now I realize I prefer men any day over women its a completely different experience being on the other side...and I'm not fighting this side of me any longer!

    you just gotta make yourself look good whether as a boy or a girl, and get out there

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    social? life? what are those things??

    as a driver my work hrs are most of the time and varied so much, nobody calls me, cause they never know when i am at home, asleep, or at work.
    i must work weekends so fri, sat nights are spent at work or so tired i must sleep, or must sleep cause i must get back to work.
    i have tried to do some dating....most do not get past the first meet up.

    i would love to find a understanding gg to live with/ or at least do things with....but she would have to put up with my weird hrs.

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    [SIZE=2]Currently, I have no real social / love life to speak of even though I am single, just going to school & studying took all the little free time I once had to be social...so all I can do now is chat at school or on line with some friends...that's about it...[/SIZE]
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    Being that I am preparing for a divorce, things are rather quiet. Although 2 years ago I was separated for a year and I had a social life. I had friends and most of them knew about Michelle. In fact a GG friend went more places with Michelle than male me. I know it is possible but sometimes you must break out of your comfort zone and explore new places and situations.

    I am preparing to start finding people to go with and part of that was handled because I formed a meetup group here in Denver. One of the problems with being a crossdresser is that it is hard to meet others or find people to go with. So I created the group so they can schedule an outings and get several others to join in. That way we have the social interaction and some girlfriends.

    As for dating in the future, I have no problem going to the match.com of the world and trying my luck. The GG falls for you and that includes the whole package. I think it depends upon how you tell them and how you approach the issue as to whether or not they will deal with it.
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    I got divorced in 1998; neither family nor friends had any positive reaction to the crossdressing. So, I no longer have any family contact other than the occasional holiday 'how are you doing' calls. I discovered all my friends weren't the type that I really wanted to be around (you know, the bigoted prejudiced type) and wound up with no one. I've had a couple gay female friends 'in passing', but once they were coupled up the friendship pretty much dried up. Like you, Marsea, I have little desire for male friends, but perhaps for different reasons. I simply don't trust men. I've never had any male friends that didn't take advantage of me in some way; I know men are very competitive by nature, and just don't want to have to be on my guard all the time.

    Despite this being the 21st century, women still expect to be asked out by men, and many just won't make a phone call unless it's out of desperation such as when they need an escort for a wedding. So don't feel bad that they don't call you for stuff, in fact, be grateful that you have some that will say yes to ANY social interaction. I right now don't have anyone for that.

    Your odds of finding a TG friendly woman are very, very slim. Women are attracted to alpha male traits; any display of female traits or behavior is usually a strong deterrent to any feelings of attraction. They only want 'sensitive', nurturing men when those qualities are an addendum to standard male behavior like leadership, physical strength (they like feeling safe), and well, just look up alpha male and you'll get the idea. Basically, women want a nasty, successful, dominant prick, but one that treats her nicely. They usually get just that; but the 'nicely' part fades away once he gets what he wants from her, usually sex until he finds a new 'target'. Then she gets disappointed, and the cycle repeats itself. But you won't find those women changing and looking for guys in dresses just because the last alpha male dumped all over her; she still believes in the fairy tale prince that will find her, marry her, and give her everything she wants, while he works his ass off, because 'he gets his satisfaction by providing for his wife and family'. What a joke.

    There are no straight girl - crossdresser bars, clubs, or dating sites. None. That should tell you how many women are attracted to us. None. The few that advertise as cd dating sites are inhabited by 99.999999% men, and men posing as women. They do have a few ringers that will write to you to get you to pay up for a premium membership, but then the emails disappear (pretty much same as straight pay dating sites!).

    So if you're interested in dating men, then you have possibilities. If you're interested in dating women, and are up front about the crossdressing, your chances are slim, very slim indeed. There are a few, but they're already taken, having their pick of the very best (read, attractive and successful) crossdressers out there. Your best bet are women who are otherwise undateable, and are willing to put up with your crossdressing because you're willing to put up with their negative traits: Perhaps drug or alcohol addiction, criminal activity, just plain physical bad looks, maybe a compulsive cheater that will use you as their 'home base' and comfort zone while they seek excitement elsewhere, or other revolting traits.

    On that note, have a nice day.
    Some causes of crossdressing you've probably never even considered: My TG biography at:http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...=1#post1490560
    There's an addendum at post # 82 on that thread, too. It's about a ten minute read.
    Why don't we understand our desire to dress, behave and feel like a girl? Because from childhood, boys are told that the worst possible thing we can be, is a sissy. This feeling is so ingrained into our psyche, that we will suppress any thoughts that connect us to being or wanting to be feminine, even to the point of creating separate personalities to assign those female feelings into.

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    I have been crossdressing since i was an early teen. I got married in my early 20's, divorced in mid 20's. I then went a little wild living the bacholar life...dating any girl with 2 legs....lol. Settled down again and getting married for the 2nd time at the age of 29. I had my daughter with my second wife, we then seperated & divorced almost 3 years ago, and I have been a single parent ever since. I have dated off and on since my divorce & had one long term relationship in that time. I am currently single, not seeing anyone serious, just going out on dates here and there once in awhile. I am content with it just being me & my daughter. I am in no hurry to settle down again and a lot of that is due to my daughter....she is my #1 priority in my life, and it needs to stay that way. Besides, like I said earlier....I have been in some bad relationships, and also with me being divorced twice...I have no desire at this time for a long term relationship anyway. As far as my sex life goes....it's healthy...lol.
    As a man I may look like I belong, but I don't feel like I belong...As a woman I may not look like I belong, but I feel like I belong!

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    I've come to the conclusion I'm pretty much undateable. No girlfriend in high school. Had to take my female cousin to senior prom. Couldn't get girls in college to go out with me. Went on a few dates after college, never a second one with the same woman. Fell for a few women that I thought reciprocated my feelings, but they were just being friendly to me. Tried having some friends set me up with people, tried internet dating (match.com, lavalife, eHarmony, etc.)... Had a few final blows to my confidence. Gave up about three years back. Since then I've also just lost interest in women. I've thought about trying to date men sometimes, but the idea doesn't seem that enticing outside of fantasies. The whole affair's made me kind of depressed.

    I don't really think there are such things as "soul mates", and I don't think there's "someone for everybody". I've kind of come to terms with the fact it's probably just going to be me from here on out. By their 30's, most people have someone already, those that don't have some type of issue.

    Well, at least I can't say my crossdressing is hurting my ability to date!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sometimes_miss View Post
    I got divorced in 1998; neither family nor friends had any positive reaction to the crossdressing. So, I no longer have any family contact other than the occasional holiday 'how are you doing' calls. I discovered all my friends weren't the type that I really wanted to be around (you know, the bigoted prejudiced type) and wound up with no one. I've had a couple gay female friends 'in passing', but once they were coupled up the friendship pretty much dried up. Like you, Marsea, I have little desire for male friends, but perhaps for different reasons. I simply don't trust men. I've never had any male friends that didn't take advantage of me in some way; I know men are very competitive by nature, and just don't want to have to be on my guard all the time.

    Despite this being the 21st century, women still expect to be asked out by men, and many just won't make a phone call unless it's out of desperation such as when they need an escort for a wedding. So don't feel bad that they don't call you for stuff, in fact, be grateful that you have some that will say yes to ANY social interaction. I right now don't have anyone for that.

    Your odds of finding a TG friendly woman are very, very slim. Women are attracted to alpha male traits; any display of female traits or behavior is usually a strong deterrent to any feelings of attraction. They only want 'sensitive', nurturing men when those qualities are an addendum to standard male behavior like leadership, physical strength (they like feeling safe), and well, just look up alpha male and you'll get the idea. Basically, women want a nasty, successful, dominant prick, but one that treats her nicely. They usually get just that; but the 'nicely' part fades away once he gets what he wants from her, usually sex until he finds a new 'target'. Then she gets disappointed, and the cycle repeats itself. But you won't find those women changing and looking for guys in dresses just because the last alpha male dumped all over her; she still believes in the fairy tale prince that will find her, marry her, and give her everything she wants, while he works his ass off, because 'he gets his satisfaction by providing for his wife and family'. What a joke.

    There are no straight girl - crossdresser bars, clubs, or dating sites. None. That should tell you how many women are attracted to us. None. The few that advertise as cd dating sites are inhabited by 99.999999% men, and men posing as women. They do have a few ringers that will write to you to get you to pay up for a premium membership, but then the emails disappear (pretty much same as straight pay dating sites!).

    So if you're interested in dating men, then you have possibilities. If you're interested in dating women, and are up front about the crossdressing, your chances are slim, very slim indeed. There are a few, but they're already taken, having their pick of the very best (read, attractive and successful) crossdressers out there. Your best bet are women who are otherwise undateable, and are willing to put up with your crossdressing because you're willing to put up with their negative traits: Perhaps drug or alcohol addiction, criminal activity, just plain physical bad looks, maybe a compulsive cheater that will use you as their 'home base' and comfort zone while they seek excitement elsewhere, or other revolting traits.

    On that note, have a nice day.
    in part what you say it true...but i have problems of mine that turn the lady's off very fast, as my work kills any real free time and almost none on the weekends. and that is when all the fun is going on.
    hard to find a date to go out late on a tuesday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sometimes_miss View Post
    There are no straight girl - crossdresser bars, clubs, or dating sites. None. That should tell you how many women are attracted to us. None. The few that advertise as cd dating sites are inhabited by 99.999999% men, and men posing as women. They do have a few ringers that will write to you to get you to pay up for a premium membership, but then the emails disappear (pretty much same as straight pay dating sites!).
    That's a pretty interesting observation and a little depressing. Makes you appreciate the GGs who accept their CDing SOs even more.

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    WHAT social/love life??

    Get the point? lol

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    mine sucks...
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    While those of us who get out in public to whatever degree are discovering there is more tolerance out there than some think, the plain fact of life is that to be a crossdresser is to be marginalized. Tolerance is one thing, acceptance quite another. This is true within the gay community nearly as much as mainstream society when trying to cultivate a network of friends or seeking romance.

    The odds of a single crossdresser finding an accepting GG are slightly better than winning the lottery, I suppose, but not enough to make much difference. Those GGs are rare, exotic birds indeed. What's more, those of you who are thinking, as I once did, that turning to men for romance will solve the problem are in for some disappointment. Sure, you can find guys who want to have sex with you, but you can forget about the whole romance thing.

    Here's the thing, you see -- very few people of any gender or sexual orientation are prepared to cope with the social stigma associated with crossdressing. Even if someone has some genuine interest or attraction, he or she isn't going to be able to handle the embarrassment by association. This is as true for friendship as for romance. That guy who will gladly meet you in a motel room turns into a spineless wimp at the mere prospect of being seen at club buying you a drink. What's worse, those "friends" who are gushing about how much they love you after a few drinks at a bar can never quite seem to clear their schedules enough to go to a movie or dinner with you, and somehow you're always overlooked when the party invitations go out.

    Of course I'm painting with a broad brush here, and there are exceptions, as is evidenced by a few gurls right here on this forum. But it's much like the lottery -- someone's gonna win, just not you.

    So that leaves us with three viable action points:

    • You have to find a way to get comfortable with more solitude than you'd like.
    • We gurls have make a huge effort, a real commitment, to be friends for each other, and not just online. We need face-time and stuff to do together. We need friendship. Maybe even a little romance.
    • We have to keep trying, keep interacting with people, keep giving them chances to see beyond the covers to the books inside. Cuz if we don't, nothin's ever gonna change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherri View Post
    While those of us who get out in public to whatever degree are discovering there is more tolerance out there than some think, the plain fact of life is that to be a crossdresser is to be marginalized. Tolerance is one thing, acceptance quite another. This is true within the gay community nearly as much as mainstream society when trying to cultivate a network of friends or seeking romance.

    The odds of a single crossdresser finding an accepting GG are slightly better than winning the lottery, I suppose, but not enough to make much difference. Those GGs are rare, exotic birds indeed. What's more, those of you who are thinking, as I once did, that turning to men for romance will solve the problem are in for some disappointment. Sure, you can find guys who want to have sex with you, but you can forget about the whole romance thing.

    Here's the thing, you see -- very few people of any gender or sexual orientation are prepared to cope with the social stigma associated with crossdressing. Even if someone has some genuine interest or attraction, he or she isn't going to be able to handle the embarrassment by association. This is as true for friendship as for romance. That guy who will gladly meet you in a motel room turns into a spineless wimp at the mere prospect of being seen at club buying you a drink. What's worse, those "friends" who are gushing about how much they love you after a few drinks at a bar can never quite seem to clear their schedules enough to go to a movie or dinner with you, and somehow you're always overlooked when the party invitations go out.

    Of course I'm painting with a broad brush here, and there are exceptions, as is evidenced by a few gurls right here on this forum. But it's much like the lottery -- someone's gonna win, just not you.

    So that leaves us with three viable action points:

    • You have to find a way to get comfortable with more solitude than you'd like.
    • We gurls have make a huge effort, a real commitment, to be friends for each other, and not just online. We need face-time and stuff to do together. We need friendship. Maybe even a little romance.
    • We have to keep trying, keep interacting with people, keep giving them chances to see beyond the covers to the books inside. Cuz if we don't, nothin's ever gonna change.
    Well said Sherri, I totaly agree with everything you said!
    As a man I may look like I belong, but I don't feel like I belong...As a woman I may not look like I belong, but I feel like I belong!

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    Come on...

    >>I'm actually asking those who are single without a current (understanding or otherwise) or previous SO or partner/girlfriend/boyfriend in life before you started acting on your new or other lifestyle.

    Wow... That really narrows down who can respond and what they'll probably be able to say.

    It's said, after all, "That nothing succeeds like success."

    Ask only people who haven't been having much luck how it's going and you're not going to get a lot of happy noise...

    This reminds me of my "friends" after my divorce - years ago - and before I hooked up and married my wife. Talk about "birds of a feather!"

    What I noticed was, "Nothing fails like failure." Honestly, because I was the new "odd man out" I met a lot of guys who had been having no luck for years.

    It struck me, however, that it was THEM, not the ladies they kept getting ignored by.

    When my second wife died, I did all the Internet dating stuff that people do now and saw it from the other side. I had had a long "successful" marriage, and now I was meeting a lot of women who'd failed... Again, "It's not them, it's you!" Only this time it was the women who were out of luck.

    There's good news and bad news here. If you're having problems, it's YOU that may be the problem. That said, YOU can do something about that.

    I have known, and know, many TS, TG, CDs who are attractive, busy, happy folks. If people like something about you, they like you and overlook a lot of "the other stuff."

    You're not just TS, TG, CD... You're much more than that. Something else may be putting people off... Figure out what it is, apologize for it, and make some changes.

    Plenty of good people to have a life with... But, it all starts with you thinking you are one of them - and making it obvious to someone else.

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    Been divorced since January of 09', but haven't really been looking for anything other than friendship till this spring. Have been doing the computer thing since last winter and had 1 sorta kinda friendship for a time, some meet for coffee's and lot's of emailing.
    Giving that up though, doesn't work enough to spend the dough on it.

    Really hard to put serious effort into dating when i'm in a pit financially, because it hardly works to ask her to pay for dates, ya know?

    Lonely? heck yes, but it'll happen when it's supposed too. mj (Cassie)

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    Personally I am not happy unless I have a few social scenes on the go.

    Loneliness and isolation is not confined to crossdressers. There are multiple reasons modern life can make us lonely.

    • people live longer
    • people are more mobile
    • people work long hours
    • electronic entertainment is convenient and isolating


    There are plenty of old, young, unemployed, workaholics, successful people, married couples who are lonely. You can see it if you look.

    Don't expect a social life to come to you. You have to work at it. You have to make an effort and that does not mean turn up somewhere social and showing face.

    In a city, there's lots of things to do, sports, arts, politics, business, volunteers. Gumtree, Craigs list are always looking for people to do things.

    It is a task and you have to be devious and expedient to an extent. Don't look desperate or get too sucked into the actual task.

    If something isn't working for you don't go. Don't like the people? Don't go. Don't like the activities? Don't go. But do things for the people and mix them up.

    And don't expect any scene to remain stable. People move on, get married, die. You have to be more pragmatic and cultivate a couple spheres.

    It works for me. And when I don't I'm not happy. This doesn't mean I'm a party animal, I need my time away, I just know my needs.

    Though I now face the problem of explaining to people why I am single at 37 when I am clearly such a catch

    As for love life yeah thats a tough one. I keep trying different strategies. I plan on being more open in the future. As being open in the past did produce results. Not dressing openly but having people know my tastes. Of course it will explain my singledom to them
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    Somewhere in France, during WWII, a dogface was asked what it was like being in the field all the time , and he replied
    "before the war, my wife was my right hand, now, my right hand is my wife".

    So, it seems that there is always to a way to improvise. There is nothing that says that Cders can't date, talk about anything else but CD ing and still have a social life. Looking for permanence may be a problem, but you can always improvise.
    If your "hobby" was heavy artillery you wouldn't talk that to death on a date. You can leave the CD ing at home for a while just to have some human company, and have a good time.

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    Neither here hun, I would give just about anything for a GG for a friend to do things with & if more came of it, SUPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Your social life is directly porportional to the effort you put into it. If you're lonely, you're just gonna hafta work harder.

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    I'm single, never married, nor have kids. I don't have a GF or a SO and so I enjoy being on my own, living on my own, and doing whatever I want to do.

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    Here is the real deal for me. I really really want to finish my life with a SO. As much as dressing is important to me, it is only one way that I express my feminine side. The more I come to acceptance with this side, the more I realize that dressing is only one outlet. The problem I have always had in the past was not with the dressing, but stuffing the fact that I did indeed have a feminine side and my refusal to acknowledge it. Push come to shove and I fell in love with someone I knew would not be accepting could I give it up? Absolutely yes, as long as I found other ways to stay in contact with the other side of my emotions. By the same token I would throw myself in front of a bullet for someone I truly loved. Yes I consider giving up dressing, and taking a bullet to be at par with each other. With this being said, I am very picky about who I date and they are far and few between. I wont randomly date and a friendship has to be well established before I date someone.

    Does this mean I wont tell her? No No No, I would tell her for sure. If after that I felt she was worth it. I would trade dressing for love in a heart beat.
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    No such thing as either for me. My best friend married and moved away years ago. I had to drop all other friends due to their lifestyle choices clashing with my job security. Only local people I know now are work acquaintances. I work 10 hour days and can't socialize on work nights. The main social scene in town in bars, which I don't like to go to alone, so I stay home on weekends too. I'm not the type to meet people in a noisy club anyway.

    I used to visit my best friend and his family a couple of times a year. But once they had kids, their activities centered around them (which is understandable) and when I visit, I'm often entertaining myself as they are doing activities with their boys or my friend is burdened with work. I bought him a ticket to the Smothers Brothers at no cost to him a couple of years ago. I ended up going alone as he works from home as a programmer and had a work crisis he had to handle.

    I have a good GG friend in another state for whom I used to carry a torch. Unfortunately, it was that same old story, she thought of me as a "buddy" and didn't want to ruin the friendship. I enjoy the friendship, so I keep in touch, but I've had a few scratches on the rose colored glasses so I don't have any big hopes of anything more with her anymore. Also, the economy has cut my visits to her city and my best friend's place drastically.

    I didn't date until after high school And you could count the number of women I've dated on one hand. Minus a finger or few for the times I've had sex. My crossdressing is a big factor in my lacking self-confidence in the social arena.

    In my opinion, sometimes_miss is spot on in what women want. It's just not me. My GG friend I mentioned above wants a guy who takes charge (not to mention who has money). I saw one of her singles profiles on her computer once. The heading said that she was looking for a "real man." That leaves this "lacy pants" guy out. (A recent comment by our Mayor who put his foot in his mouth while refering to gays in the military, but I felt that part of his description fits me. ) As a wallflower, I like outgoing women who bring me out of my shell.

    Yes, I'm often lonely, but I'm finding myself holed up in a dress more than ever lately. It's just so comforting to put on a bra and forms when I can (I'm in panties most days) even if I don't dress fully. I'm not interested in guys, their faces and bodies don't turn me on. But I've pretty much resolved that I'm going to be alone all my life because I don't think I could stop dressing if I wanted to and I have little hope of finding an accepting GG for a mate. I was really disappointed to find that the crossdresser dating site I joined is mainly full of guys showing their privates, wanting to hook up with TV/TS people for sex. Not my bag.

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