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Thread: Dr Watson's gender disorientation and indecision scales applied to biological males

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    FFS, there is only one certain way to determine if you are TG or not, look into yourself.
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    Swans have more fun! sandra-leigh's Avatar
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    The Kinsey scale is shown on another page there, the page with Dr. Benjamin's gender disorientation scale.

    On the Benjamin scale I'd probably be category 4 or 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandra-leigh View Post
    The Kinsey scale is shown on another page there, the page with Dr. Benjamin's gender disorientation scale.

    On the Benjamin scale I'd probably be category 4 or 5.
    I have more problems with this chart than the watson one, this one tries to classify homosexuality/heterosexuality into the mix, according to that chart I'm type 5, but I don't engage in homosexuality. but they list the kinsey scale at being 4-6what reads as:
    • 4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
    • 5 Predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual
    • 6 Exclusively homosexual, with no heterosexual experience
    the Watson chart left sexual orientation out of it.

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    Check the website. There in no Dr. Watson, it is really Madelyn H Wyndzen Phd. a self identified transsexual. Most likely those classes listed reflect her transition. She probably asumes that all transexual's life experiences are the same as her's. NOT.


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    OMG Is this for real.talk about putting us in boxes and in this case not very neat ones at that.I dont fit in any one box but in a mix of most of them.why dont ppl just let us just get on with whatever makes us happy without feeling the need to pigeon hole us.my heads bursting am away for a lie down


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    Quote Originally Posted by weekend woman View Post
    Check the website. There in no Dr. Watson, it is really Madelyn H Wyndzen Phd. a self identified transsexual.
    Madelyn posted the table, but never claimed to have written it, no more than she claimed to have written the Benjamin table she also posted.

    I do not have time to chase "Dr. Watson" down completely, but the most probable leads at the moment are Robin Watson with Clarke Institute of Psychiatry Toronto, Canada, or Diane Watson with the Vancouver Hospital Genderity Identity Clinic.

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    Without wanting to be pigeon holed.....I am somewhere in between 1 and 2, probably closer to 2.

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    Don't fit into any of the categories, except perhaps Clayfish's group 0. Maybe with some elementary deductions, this is one case that Sherlock Holme may be able to solve.
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    What is normal anyway? Rianna Humble's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle James View Post
    I just ran across this on another site. I figure I am somwhere between 3 and 4. I would be interested to know if anyone else has heard of this and where do you rank?
    Never heard of it, but will play along for fun

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle James View Post
    Watson Table
    ...
    Group Four: Moderate Intensity Transsexual
    Gender Identity: Feel female but able to supress until age 30-50. Increasing dichotomy with age.
    Gender Role: Try macho lifestyle to compensate. Increasing depression and anxiety over time. Never comfortable as males.
    Eroticism: Genital if fantasizing self as female. Low libido.
    Biological feminization: Requested late or intermittent.
    Conflicts: Guilt, loss + fear of passing. Fear of rejection. Confused sexual orientation.
    Desire for Re-assignment: Re-assignment hoped for, often attained.
    Treatment: Supportive psychotherapy for symptomatic relief, family therapy, education group for stabilization of female identity.
    Gender Identity: True
    Gender Role: 1st part False, 2nd & 3rd parts True
    Eroticism: False
    Biological feminization: 1st part True
    Conflicts: Guilt used to be True, rest False
    Desire for Re-assignment: 1st part True
    Treatment: Awaited

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandra-leigh View Post
    The Kinsey scale is shown on another page there, the page with Dr. Benjamin's gender disorientation scale.

    On the Benjamin scale I'd probably be category 4 or 5.
    I have more problems with this chart than the watson one, this one tries to classify homosexuality/heterosexuality into the mix, according to that chart I'm type 5, but I don't engage in homosexuality. but they list the kinsey scale at being 4-6what reads as:
    * 4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
    * 5 Predominantly homosexual, but incidentally heterosexual
    * 6 Exclusively homosexual, with no heterosexual experience
    the Watson chart left sexual orientation out of it.
    Like Jen, I would be a Benjamin 5 apart from the sexuality and Kinsey ratings. When I used to be male, I would have come out as a Kinsey Zero, as a woman that would make me a 6
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    The idiocy of trying to analyze the imponderable.
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