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    The TSA scanner will only help catch a novice bomber. Someone who is educated in explosives knows everything you need is available beyond the scanners. With a simple piece of plexiglass, the rest of what you need is available on the plane. Here is an example: Stop at 7-11 buy a bottle of orange juice, grab your radio, and go to the beach. You now have everything you need to build a working hydrogen bomb, capable of blowing up a car. For $5 on the baking isle in your favorite grocery store, you can get the materials to make edible candy bars, that can be ignighted with a cell phone.

    This scanner will not stop it, but it is supposed to make you feel safer.

    Now how about all the weapons that are smuggled in on the planes daily? I met a man (not by choice) that worked the tarmac at DIA transfering illegal weapons from plane to plane. Known as a transfer man.

    Boy do I feel safe with being scanned. HA!

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    Whoa Maxi,

    a post like that on the internet will qualify you for a few more lists for sure...

    jus sayin...

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    Im sure I am already there. National Security, and ATF have both been at door. My hobbies make then nervious. But I am strictly legal and by the book. I know they watch me, why would I do something stupid?

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    I don't have much neeed to fly anymore and was really wanting to make a flight in fem, just for the feeling of it. All this invasive TSA body searching makes me really want to flay in femm with a skirt, so when they xray me they can see my SHLONG dangling down between my legs. Those pervs, hiding in a booth, didn't check my ID at check-in so I suppose it would give then a good laugh....certainly an image to be STORED and save...of course for TRAINING purpses....wink, wink.

    Or maybe I'll pick the GROPING curtain. Now I would not be wearing any panties and I might just suggest, "Let me make this easy for you." as I lift up my skirt to expose my full equipment... and for the pleasure of all the perverts around. And BTW, have any of you ever seen a TSA agent that you wanted touching you..... ANYWHERE??????? Most TSA agents are totally disgusting loosers who can't find anyother work, because who would otherwise want to feel up everyone's thighs and boobs for eight hours a day???????????????? Trust me......look at the person in front and behind you in line......would you really want to put your hands between his/her sweatty thighs or on her ginormous juggs???????

    I was brought up in America and this is not America anymore. We so freely give up the freedoms which so many TRUE ANERICANS have died for. We all walk the path of the German Jews of the 1930s/40s if we do not stand up for our rights and freedoms. I can not believe that anyone raised in America can so easily take this invasive and personal affront under the BS of "to keep us safe". Maybe from terrorist, ( excuse me. I mean radical persons), but who will protect us from our OWN GOVERNMENT.

    Write your Congressmen/women and Senators and demand a bill banning the TSA porno/gropo practices.

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    I went through the new scanner just before the new procedures and I ended up with a pat down of my chest area by a female TSA agent. I also had an explosives check and in 5 minutes was on my way. I have thought about the new procedures and whether or not I would still fly dressed and the answer is "HELL YES". I am not going to let anyone tell me how I have to dress while flying.
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    Clueless

    As long as you get what you want, who cares what is costs you or anybody else?

    "Look at me - I'm free!"

    (Same thing Bambi used to say...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny Gurl View Post
    New TSA resistant underwear. I guess you can wear sparkley pasties for your bra.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...=news/national
    The TSA had no comment about the underwear.


    If an anomaly shows on the body scan, such as a fig leaf, the TSA will pull you aside for a full body groping.
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    The really silly thing is we are told to believe this is all in the name of our "safety". Does anyone ever stop to think that the actual terrorists are well aware of the silly theater we are allowing ourselves to be subjected to and will OBVIOUSLY not be using such incredibly amateur methods to wreak havoc? They have already cost us billions of dollars and millions have man hours and will continue to do so.
    If you sacrifice freedom for security, then you shall have neither. - Benjamin Franklin
    I think he couldn't have been more accurate. TSA is allowed to do to American citizens what the troops are forbidden to do to Iraqi insurgents, all in the faux since of creating "security." We are not anymore safe, and if anything what the terrorist accomplished in the long run, us loosing more freedoms, has allowed them to win. They do not need to see a nude scan of anyone, and damn if they need to feel up and grope people like they do, all in the name of national security. There is already cases of TSA workers bullying eachother over there small genitals, nude body scans being saved and leaked, and so much hassle that if anything we are less safe. Medical conditions be damned; there are stories coming in where TSA has blatantly disregarded special needs for medical conditions. Seriously, forfeiting our rights to the privacy of our naked bodies, without even much of a fight even, has let them know that they really scared the shit out of us. The Patriot Act took away so many rights that that in reality I am more scared of what might happen if we are attacked again, than of actually being attacked again. It's so bad that Muslims became such a hated minority that people are wanting to deny them first amendment rights to practice their own religion, which is ultimately why most of us are here.
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    Hot off the press...here are a couple more tips to read before you head for the airport. ACLU to the rescue...lol

    http://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights...nder-travelers


    http://campaign.r20.constantcontact....012kO3uRH1XjBI

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    I wonder if a good protest would be just stripping naked when taking off your shoes?!!

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    Due to the increased risk of radiation I will be opting for the pat-down.

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    100 people naked in line would be perfict !!!

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    I have to say that as I went through a full body scanner a few weeks ago at a UK airport I did muse to myself 'what if I had been underdressed?'. I wasn't, but when the automatic gates opened, I still had to have a pat down. And then, if not earlier, I would have been found to be wearing an underwired bra if I did what I like to do and be underdressed. What would they do - I don't know. What would they think - I don't care! But I have the say the whole security thing at airports (which I approve of to some degree) makes me less likely to underdress until I get to my destination. Maybe a coward, but.........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dena View Post
    I wonder if a good protest would be just stripping naked when taking off your shoes?!!
    Actually ... that is not a bad idea at all. It is a common way to protest different things, definitely gets your protest on the TV too !
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    Here is a copy and paste of an artical explaining what is going on.

    DHS & TSA: making a list, checking it twice
    Comment on this article at Canada Free Press
    By Douglas J. Hagmann, Director
    23 November 2010: Following the publication of my article titled “Gate Rape of America,” I was contacted by a source within the DHS who is troubled by the terminology and content of an internal memo reportedly issued yesterday at the hand of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano. Indeed, both the terminology and content contained in the document are troubling. The dissemination of the document itself is restricted by virtue of its classification, which prohibits any manner of public release. While the document cannot be posted or published, the more salient points are revealed here.
    The memo, which actually takes the form of an administrative directive, appears to be the product of undated but recent high level meetings between Napolitano, John Pistole, head of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA),and one or more of Obama’s national security advisors. This document officially addresses those who are opposed to, or engaged in the disruption of the implementation of the enhanced airport screening procedures as “domestic extremists.”
    The introductory paragraph of the multipage document states that it is issued “in response to the growing public backlash against enhanced TSA security screening procedures and the agents conducting the screening process.” Implicit within the same section is that the recently enhanced security screening procedures implemented at U.S. airports, and the measures to be taken in response to the negative public backlash as detailed [in this directive], have the full support of the President. In other words, Obama not only endorses the enhanced security screening, but the measures outlined in this directive to be taken in response to public objections.
    The terminology contained within the reported memo is indeed troubling. It labels any person who “interferes” with TSA airport security screening procedure protocol and operations by actively objecting to the established screening process, “including but not limited to the anticipated national opt-out day” as a “domestic extremist.” The label is then broadened to include “any person, group or alternative media source” that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel disruptions at U.S. airports in response to the enhanced security procedures.
    For individuals who engaged in such activity at screening points, it instructs TSA operations to obtain the identities of those individuals and other applicable information and submit the same electronically to the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division, the Extremism and Radicalization branch of the Office of Intelligence & Analysis (IA) division of the Department of Homeland Security.
    For “any person, group or domestic alternative media source” that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel “disruptions” at U.S. airports (as defined above) in response to the enhanced security procedures, the [applicable DHS administrative branch] is instructed to identify and collect information about the persons or entities, and submit such information in the manner outlined [within this directive].
    It would appear that the Department of Homeland Security is not only prepared to enforce the enhanced security procedures at airports, but is involved in gathering intelligence about those who don’t. They’re making a list and most certainly will be checking it twice. Meanwhile, legitimate threats to our air travel security (and they DO exist) seem taking a back seat to the larger threat of the multitude of non-criminal American citizens who object to having their Constitutional rights violated.
    As I have written before, it has nothing to do with security and everything to do with control.

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    Let's see ol BO let his daughters go through the pat down ON CAMERA. We already have situations of children in pure panic because strangers are touching them inappropriately. Factor in medical issues that have been physically demeaning and humiliating as well as actually dangerous to the victims of TSA terrorism and you have all the ammo that should be needed to stop this patently stupid and 100% useless violation of the 4th amendment.

    America STOP BEING BULLIED!

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    This whole airport security charade, has nothing to do with terrorism, and everything to do with conditioning the american people, to accept more government control, and justifying the backroom deals to spend billions on full body scanners, which will eventually be installed in bus and train stations, sports stadiums, shopping malls, and all government buildings.. The two alleged terror incidents, "caught just in time", were on international flights, originating outside the United States. And both involved people known to the government as possible terrorists, who were allowed to fly anyway. The forced pat downs of screaming three year old children, old ladies in wheel chairs, and seniors with colostomy bags, has nothing to do with keeping us safe. It's about control. The police state is here, and being implemented as we speak. It started when President Bush admitted tapping the phones of american citizens without warrants, and said he planned to keep on doing it, just to keep us safe, of course. And nobody objected. It does not surprise me in the least that Obama is OK with it. If he represented any threat to the people who actually run the country, they would not have allowed him to be elected. And 2012 will probably bring us the choice between more Obama, and Sarah Palin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxi View Post
    Here is a copy and paste of an artical explaining what is going on.

    DHS & TSA: making a list, checking it twice
    Comment on this article at Canada Free Press
    By Douglas J. Hagmann, Director
    23 November 2010: Following the publication of my article titled “Gate Rape of America,” I was contacted by a source within the DHS who is troubled by the terminology and content of an internal memo reportedly issued yesterday at the hand of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano. Indeed, both the terminology and content contained in the document are troubling. The dissemination of the document itself is restricted by virtue of its classification, which prohibits any manner of public release. While the document cannot be posted or published, the more salient points are revealed here.
    The memo, which actually takes the form of an administrative directive, appears to be the product of undated but recent high level meetings between Napolitano, John Pistole, head of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA),and one or more of Obama’s national security advisors. This document officially addresses those who are opposed to, or engaged in the disruption of the implementation of the enhanced airport screening procedures as “domestic extremists.”
    The introductory paragraph of the multipage document states that it is issued “in response to the growing public backlash against enhanced TSA security screening procedures and the agents conducting the screening process.” Implicit within the same section is that the recently enhanced security screening procedures implemented at U.S. airports, and the measures to be taken in response to the negative public backlash as detailed [in this directive], have the full support of the President. In other words, Obama not only endorses the enhanced security screening, but the measures outlined in this directive to be taken in response to public objections.
    The terminology contained within the reported memo is indeed troubling. It labels any person who “interferes” with TSA airport security screening procedure protocol and operations by actively objecting to the established screening process, “including but not limited to the anticipated national opt-out day” as a “domestic extremist.” The label is then broadened to include “any person, group or alternative media source” that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel disruptions at U.S. airports in response to the enhanced security procedures.
    For individuals who engaged in such activity at screening points, it instructs TSA operations to obtain the identities of those individuals and other applicable information and submit the same electronically to the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division, the Extremism and Radicalization branch of the Office of Intelligence & Analysis (IA) division of the Department of Homeland Security.
    For “any person, group or domestic alternative media source” that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel “disruptions” at U.S. airports (as defined above) in response to the enhanced security procedures, the [applicable DHS administrative branch] is instructed to identify and collect information about the persons or entities, and submit such information in the manner outlined [within this directive].
    It would appear that the Department of Homeland Security is not only prepared to enforce the enhanced security procedures at airports, but is involved in gathering intelligence about those who don’t. They’re making a list and most certainly will be checking it twice. Meanwhile, legitimate threats to our air travel security (and they DO exist) seem taking a back seat to the larger threat of the multitude of non-criminal American citizens who object to having their Constitutional rights violated.
    As I have written before, it has nothing to do with security and everything to do with control.
    In his writings, Thomas Jefferson saif that this would be the end game of government.

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    Wink I thought TSA did not save my images!

    Oh My! Could it be?

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    Doesn't really matter...scan none and scan everybody the bad guys will still get past us....the odds say that....they succeed once, we succeed 100% of the time....ani't happening with the government...

    Scan's aint that bad, plus TSA is doing the law enforcement type pat down....just about down to the skivies....so what do you expect????

    I liked the girl out in LA, going to the airport for flight....wore a heavy coat and had a bikini underneath. Quick searh there....visial as well....Now THAT will work!!!!! LOL Got to love "creativity" at it's finest.....Leave it too the "Left Coast and LA in particular to come up with that....beautiful!!!!

    But do you think the government would ever think of that???? Make everyone wear bikini's and briefs who are flying....

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    If I was flying in drab, I would prefer the body scan to a pat down. If the TSA is able to see that I'm wearing panties (which I wear 24/7) They'll have something to talk about in the break room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jilmac View Post
    If I was flying in drab, I would prefer the body scan to a pat down. If the TSA is able to see that I'm wearing panties (which I wear 24/7) They'll have something to talk about in the break room.
    I'm going to fly under-dressed on Friday. I'll see how it goes. :<

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    The quickest way to stop terrorism, is to stop meddling in other peoples countries.

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    What we need to do is stop using people to handle security who don't know enough to pour p*ss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.

    Somebody in TSA care to explain how a loaded clip was found on a Southwest Airlines plane 2 days ago? Probably one of the brain trust collection of non compus mentus government gropers.

    What is so sad is that these clowns actually believe they are potentially thwarting a terrorist attack. ANYONE with the slightest intent and minimal expertise can get dangerous items on a plane or bus or train. They have done once (big time) and don't need to do it again to control and bankrupt the civilized world.

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    If I was flying in drab, I would prefer the body scan to a pat down.
    You are aware that radiation is involved, right? And nobody will say how much.
    Would you get a chest Xray every couple weeks?

    Now for extra points: Why won't the TSA allow it's workers to wear radiation badges like they do in the hospitals, and other places where X ray machines are in use?

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