I understand your feeling about this, Lightfoot. I am bisexual and I sometimes remark half-jokingly tha if I ad it to do over again I would be a transgendered lesbian.Originally Posted by lightfoot
I understand your feeling about this, Lightfoot. I am bisexual and I sometimes remark half-jokingly tha if I ad it to do over again I would be a transgendered lesbian.
Its a confusing world. So many variations and nuances that it is impossible to generalize. I find that I don't really like gay porn as I don't like the male bodies or the way in which they indulge in sexual intercourse. I enjoy watching TV porn but only if no men are involved and I also enjoy lesbian porn. When i see a TV and a man I am not interested at all. Yet, given the right man, I am OK to have a sexual relationship. Also I rarely look at men in public but enjoy looking at pretty and well groomed women but not as a sexual "turn on". Do other girls here feel similarly?
It sounds similar to me, which I attribute to lingering internalized homophobia which does not allow me to find as many guys as attractive.
Sometimes I'll see a cute guy, get in the mood and BAM! Damn he's hot!
Still, porn isn't a good measuring stick.
If you still find women attractive, then just go with the flow and play with both and see how you feel.
Women are definitely attractive to me too, but I grew up around a bit of sexism and mysogyny so I don't feel comfortable picking their appearance apart or imagining sex with them.
God, there is nothing more uncomfortable than being with a group of men talking about women.
I have read more of the replies to this thread and want add to mine. I won't change my first reply as I am saying it is still true. What I do think is true that those here that think or would say they are heterosexual when in drab. Those people try to find that they could be the same en femme. I think it doesn't work. So if you are gay you'll be with men no matter how your dressed, same for bisexual you'll be with men no matter how you're dressed. If you're bi curious you will fantasize about being with men if dressed en femme. But being heterosexual doesn't fit. I don't want to be with a man for sexual reasons but I don't want to stop dressing either
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I'm TG. A fem-male so I look male sometimes.
Dressing is necessary, the type of clothes you wear not so much.
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List me in the bi-sexual group. Though interestingly enough, the thought of being with a man while I am dressed isn't all that appealing. For me, cross-dressing isn't sexually-oriented, it's gender-oriented. Though that doesn't quite make sense. I've given up trying to figure it out.
Bisexual doesn't seem quite right, but I like girls and non-binary people. Not really guys, but my liking for non-binary people does extend some way along the transmasculine spectrum.
I enjoy being in my own little pigeonhole, all by myself
I'm sexually not-fussy lol
Love to hear your story
I am happy to describe and identify myself as bisexual and I don't believe that my sexuality is linked to my gender in any significant way. I find myself almost exactly equally attracted to men and women and truely don't have a preference towards which gender I would rather pursue a loving and longlasting relationship with, nor do I have a preference over which gender I would pursue a purely sexual relationship with. I suppose I would be most accurately described as pansexual but I feel that bisexual is a more widely understood term and one which I am only too happy to identify myself by
I am also of the point of view that everybody is at least a little bit bisexual but that many will simply not realise or act upon it.
this may, or may not, add to the discussion; nonetheless is an interesting video about science and sexuality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4
Authors@Google: Ogi Ogas
Two bold young neuroscientists have initiated a revolution in the scientific study of sexual attraction. Before Ogi Ogas and Sai Gaddam, the only researcher to systematically investigate sexual desires was Alfred Kinsey, who surveyed 18,000 middle-class Caucasians in the 1950s. But Ogas and Gaddam have studied the secret sexual behavior of more than a hundred million men and women around the world. Their method? They observed what people do within the anonymity of the Internet.
in a nutshell, the lecture presents a neuroscientific theory about why the most popular erotic interest on the internet for heterosexual men is ******* p0rn (and for heterosexual women, Edward Cullen from the Twilight series).
(has anyone read the book? http://www.billionwickedthoughts.com/)
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Im also bi.
when i was younger i would not dare think about such think but as i get older dressed or not both sexes can be very appealing.
Since I can't sleep I'll take out my inner thought process on everyone else!
It's funny that I'm 25 years old and I still don't know my own sexual orientation.
The only thing I've learned is that nothing is easy, especially the "simplest" things.
It seems for me at least, that my desire to CD is entirely unlinked with my orientation.
Well put. My dressing up has nothing to do with my sexual desires, actions, thoughts ...... well... most of the time anyway!
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Seems to me alot of dressers are only bi when dressed.
I dabbled with my bicuriosity many years back with both transexuals and other bicurious men. It was fun because it was new and different, but, eh... Not something I'd pursue over a straight relationship, but if the oppurtunity presented again I'd probably indulge in a fling. Not sure what that makes me. Just "me", I guess. This was probably a poor answer.
"there is nothing more fem and girly then having a guy appreciate how fem you are" That is so true Anna ! as long as he treats you as a lady and his language is not all that macho describing of what is going on in his pants and what hed like to do etc....
I am very much attracted to women, their smell , their shape, their style, their soft hairless skin and elegance etc..sexy women definately "do it for me". However when i am in my ultra feminine submissive moods i can easily be with "the right man". Not because i am attracted to them ( as i can say that I am 100% not attracted to males ) but to feel submissive, helpless, used and dominanted by them, which in "my head" makes me feel more weak and feminine. I have been to bed with a couple of guys ( sometimes my wife was there ) and I enjoyed being their "toy"......but that is as far as my feelings went.
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I was really planning on ending my entries in this thread because I thought I had said all that I had said, but these kind of comments really bother me. Is that really what you think of when you think of women? As weak and meant to be dominated? It blows my mind how many crossdressers claim to want to be women, treated like women, and love women, and yet also have this 100% misogynistic view towards women.
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IMO, any desire for submission is just that ... enjoying submission. It has nothing to do with gender. People can be the submissive partner in a D/s relationship and still remain true to their gender. Anyone who questions this can join FetLife and see for themselves. lol
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I can relate a lot to Sissy Michelle. JiveTurkeyOnRye, I looked up misogynystic and I didn't take Michelle's comment as being that way. I think a lot of women like to be submissive in bed, but not all. At worst, I can only see Michelle as maybe not understanding what a women feels during sex and in an intimate relationship (and I don't claim to know 100%, but I have been with a fair amount of women in my life, and in relationships, and do a lot of reading), but I don't take it that Michelle is a woman hater.
Have to agree to disagree on this one then. I honestly don't see how you can get much more misogynistic than saying femininity is equal to being submissive and weak, and that being used as some guy's sex toy as being the thing that there is "nothing more fem" than. It says a lot about how someone perceives women in their mind, and those perceptions seem pretty ugly and demeaning to me.
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I love women, so I like to think of myself as a lesbian in a man's body. But to be honest, I am bisexual. When I was a teenager, I discovered a long time friend was in fact gay. He was very anxious that I would expose hiim, but I let him in on my secret. We ended up having a few encounters, but I always played the feminine role and dressed appropriately. I enjoyed being a "girl" and having a male "take me" in a gentle, caring way. However, I prefer women and have had one experience with a woman who preferred crossdressers. You are what you are, and it's o.k. as long as you are not hurting anyone.
JiveTurkey,
Thank you so much for your response to Sissy Michelle.
This part especially bears repeating........"saying femininity is equal to being submissive and weak, and that being used as some guy's sex toy as being the thing that there is "nothing more fem" than. It says a lot about how someone perceives women in their mind, and those perceptions seem pretty ugly and demeaning to me."
Sissy Michelle had posted:
"However when i am in my ultra feminine submissive moods i can easily be with "the right man". Not because i am attracted to them ( as i can say that I am 100% not attracted to males ) but to feel submissive, helpless, used and dominanted by them, which in "my head" makes me feel more weak and feminine. I have been to bed with a couple of guys ( sometimes my wife was there ) and I enjoyed being their "toy"......but that is as far as my feelings went.
Maybe bi or gay men feel this way but I don't know any healthy minded women that do.
Sometimes the responses regarding women on this board are so far off base it's very discouraging and offensive.
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this is an idea right out of the "I'm strait" crossdresser handbook and not the bi or gay ranks
its virtual porn for them, if they cant find a submissive woman they create a fantasy one and can see and alter the fantasy from both sides.
Last edited by Miranda-E; 03-03-2012 at 07:35 PM.
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