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    Percentages?

    I have read different studies or polls and the results vary, one may show between 5% and the next 10% of males have or do crossdress. But with the stigma associated to crossdressing even in private questoning I think many males refuse to answer truthfully or find some exemption to qualify their "no" answer.
    In short I think if the absolute truth was known nearly every male sometime in their life, for what ever reason has parcialy at least crossdressed. And a lot more do activly CD and hide it, than will ever own-up to it. I have observed the lack of concern by other males in such matters and they just laughed it off into an non-issue. And I dought they would even remember it as such and answer no/never.
    I think there are basicly two groups of males, , the one that admit crossdressing and the ones that lie about it. I'm just saying..............

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    You will never get an accurate percentage b/c there are so many who will never come out of the closet. I don't think you can place all men in the group of admitting or denying being a CD b/c I do not think all men are CD's.

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    I believe that some men will go through their entire lives without crossdressing (or having a desire to do so). that's because I believe that each and every kind of person exists on its own universe and it's a fully individual on its own. some will do, some will do it openly, some won't; percentages doesn't matter, because numbers doesn't justify any behavior.
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    The truth, franlee, is there may well be one in 10 males who at one point in their lives have put on a woman's panties, or even dressed fully, either at their girlfriends' urging, or as a lark. My own son did on a lark. His gf at the time put him up to it, and they both (with several of her girlfriends) walked into her mother's office on her birthday and sang Happy Birthday. It was funny because all the girls were about 5'4", and my son was one foot taller.

    But I would hardly consider these isolated instances, CDing in the same way it is discussed in this forum. To me, a CDer is someone who habitually dresses in some form or another even if it is only under dressing, because he obtains enjoyment from it for it's own sake. I agree it is difficult to come up with numbers, but the rough estimes are anywhere from 1:200 to 1:500. To look at the best case scenario, in a college of 20,000 students, if half of them are men there would be 50 crossdressers to 10,000 men (for the 1:200 ratio).

    Some members might come back and say that no, they're read somewhere where the ratio could be as high as 1:100. This means that in this same college of 10,000 men, there would be 100 CDs. Not a lot.
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    Crossdressing statistics are kind of like UFO sightings, they both leave you hungering for some hard evidence to support their contentions. In the case of cding. the only way to compile reliable data would be to do a secret survey without the knowledge or consent of the participants. In other words, spy on a sample of the population to determine an accurate estimate of the number of cders.
    Of course, that would be unthinkable.

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    I think it really has to do with many factors such as location or upbringing. If you were to go to Haiti you might not find too many cross dressers, but if you went to Thailand good luck not finding one. In America I feel as you get closer to the coastal states, you will see more, because they're usually more liberal areas like New York or California. Especially if you go to a pretty liberal college, you might just see them all over the place, if you have a good enough eye to tell they're cross dressing. So in some areas 1/5 people might cross dress, other areas 1/100,000 might cross dress, and since so many people are in the closet or in denial getting the real numbers would be impossible. We can only really get estimates based off surveys that were given to very small sample sizes, which almost always are inaccurate, whether it be for how many people cross dress or how many people watch football or whatever else the survey could be, they're almost always off.

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    If you go strictly by the merriam-webster definition of cross-dressing:
    The wearing of clothes designed for the opposite sex.

    Which in the strictest sense here, would mean any man who knowing wears any article of clothing, for however long, for whatever reason, that is solely designed for and sold to the opposite sex is considered to be cross dressing.

    Uncle Bob grabs his wives coat to get the mail - cross dressing
    Joey puts on his girlfriend's panties because she asked - cross dressing
    Mom made Henry wear hand-me-downs from his sister, once - cross dressing
    Halloween - girls clothes or girls costume - cross dressing
    You get the point, lol.

    Over 75% [upwards to 95%] of men will "cross dress" at least once in their lives.
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    Since this is a subject about which people tend to hide the truth, there will never be accurate percentage numbers. But then, who cares? We know there are a lot of us, and there are a lot more who won't admit it. Personally, I wouldn't classify someone who does it once (trying on panties...dressing as a girl on Halloween, etc.) as a crossdresser. I don't know if there are more of us now than in the past, or if forums like these just make it easier to 'come out' to others. But in the end, it does't really matter, does it?
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    No, we are unique. The typical male never has, never will and never wants to wear women's clothing. We crossdressers are wired differently, just as are gay men or women. It's genetic. Now, as for the % that want to or actively enjoy crossdressing, we'll never know. I ascribe to the notion that there are more than are willing to admit. So if 10% admit i, then likely the score is really 12% or 15%. If it were any more than that, I think we'd be more mainstream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenniferathome View Post
    No, we are unique. The typical male never has, never will and never wants to wear women's clothing. We crossdressers are wired differently, just as are gay men or women. It's genetic. Now, as for the % that want to or actively enjoy crossdressing, we'll never know. I ascribe to the notion that there are more than are willing to admit. So if 10% admit i, then likely the score is really 12% or 15%. If it were any more than that, I think we'd be more mainstream
    I think that some cases are genetic, while others aren't, gender can be very fluid, since it's a social construction and varies greatly by culture.

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    I conducted a random survey of males in my household. 100% are crossdressers. If these results are accurate there are 23 male to female crossdressers on my block alone.

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    You are right, that is what I was thinking and believe too. Back when I was a baby they dressed most all babys in dresses. Growing up I don't know anyone that didn't stomp around in their mom's high-heels, and so on and so on. Personaly my first time was a bet that I made to get a girl out of her dress, the putting it on was for that excuss, But! IT BACKFIRED ON ME, look where I am now. So I believe the truth be known you are right. This reply was to Sammi777
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    And to Sammy777, what about all the woman that wear mens Tshirts or jersies designed for men. All crossdressers! I don't know how many people crossdress, only that I do. I used to think I was the only one way back when, I know now there are many more and I really think we are special in our own ways and someday more people will accept this form of expression. One can hope.
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    You are all focused in the wrong area..
    There is a high possibility that close to 90 percent of posters on this thread could be CDers.
    The remainder have knowledge of cross dressig practices.
    Is this the silly season as there have been more light hearted posts recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SANDRA MICHELLE View Post
    And to Sammy777, what about all the woman that wear mens Tshirts or jersies designed for men. All crossdressers!
    Um, Sandra Michelle ... take a look at the girl you wish to be in your avatar.

    It appears as if you want to do more than just put on a girl's Tshirt or jersey and still present as a guy, if you're comparing what you want to do to the GGs who still present as GGs but wear sports Tshirts.
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    I was thinking about clothes earlier today - is material gender specific? no - you can take a piece of material and you can cut it and sew it and make a men's shirt and a man wears it - no problem. Take that same piece of material and cut it and sew it and make it into a women's blouse - why isnt it ok for a man to wear it now? its the same piece of material -

    back in the 60's men wore their hair long and wore shirts and pants made from flowery fabric and flowers in their hats and hair, beads and bracelets and nobody batted an eyelid - who decides if a piece of clothing is going to be for a man or a woman?

    Back when I was a kid it wasnt deemed feminine to wear jeans and my mum wouldnt let me have a pair - now I wear nothing but jeans - I'm still a female and nobody has ever questioned that.

    maybe too much importance is placed on clothing being for a specific gender. It you like it, and it makes you feel good then wear it - who is it hurting? nobody and if other people dont like it, well they should just suck it up and take a look at their own shortcomings. Life is short, waste it worrying about what other people are wearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karren Hutton View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentpartner View Post
    back in the 60's men wore their hair long and wore shirts and pants made from flowery fabric and flowers in their hats and hair, beads and bracelets and nobody batted an eyelid - who decides if a piece of clothing is going to be for a man or a woman?
    Actually, there was a lot of heat over it: "Are you a boy/Or are you a girl/You may be a boy/But you look like a girl" Those of us who lived through that period hoped it would break up the rigid binary for good, but societies often regress after progressive periods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acastina View Post
    Actually, there was a lot of heat over it: "Are you a boy/Or are you a girl/You may be a boy/But you look like a girl" Those of us who lived through that period hoped it would break up the rigid binary for good, but societies often regress after progressive periods.
    I am one of those who lived through that period - there was very little fuss in the UK about it tbh. I agree that re the societies regress again but I think its often a case of 2 steps forward and 1 back - so we still gain 1 forward. Little by little clothes are becoming gender-less but a question springs to my mind

    if clothes were non gender specific would CD's still feel the same about wanting to dress? is it the clothes per se or the fact that they are female clothes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by franlee View Post
    I have read different studies or polls and the results vary, one may show between 5% and the next 10% of males have or do crossdress. But with the stigma associated to crossdressing even in private questoning I think many males refuse to answer truthfully or find some exemption to qualify their "no" answer.
    In short I think if the absolute truth was known nearly every male sometime in their life, for what ever reason has parcialy at least crossdressed. And a lot more do activly CD and hide it, than will ever own-up to it. I have observed the lack of concern by other males in such matters and they just laughed it off into an non-issue. And I dought they would even remember it as such and answer no/never.
    I think there are basicly two groups of males, , the one that admit crossdressing and the ones that lie about it. I'm just saying..............
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    I totally agree with you, I've had the urge and need to cross dress ever since I was like 12 or younger and only recently embraced my feminine side and love every moment of it now.

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    What counts as crossdressing and what doesn't? How do we define it?

    Once when I publicly crossdressed: when I was in high school, we were playing our archrivals in football. Just to take a bit of a dig at them, six of us guys dressed up as the other school's cheerleaders. Men's undershirts with big balloons in them, wigs, little green skirts. When we ran out onto the floor in the gym during the pep rally to lead the students in a cheer for the other school, you can bet we got a pretty good laugh. The next year, six other guys repeated the exploit. Of the 12 of us, how many of us got a bit of kick out of it? Depending on how you define crossdressing, I was probably the only one who was doing it.

    Another incident from my youth: lying in bed with a woman, really needing to pee. The loo was in the hall just outside her door. I had to put something on so I grabbed the handiest thing--her terrycloth bathrobe. Would anybody call that CDing? Since it was me, yes, perhaps, but if it had been a "normal" guy?

    A guy I knew went one better than that: he was once spotted going from his room to the loo down the hall wearing nothing but his girlfriend's fur coat. Assuming he was a normal guy, was that CDing?

    I myself have no interest in trying to inflate figures by including each and every instance of someone putting on clothing of the opposite sex. It strikes me as something of a "misery-loves-company" exercise. I think the numbers of people who dress for the same reasons I do are very small. Whether that's good or bad, I think it's the case.

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