Using the Ladies Room....

[Chloe75]

I have noticed an increasing amount of posts stating that CDrs are using the ladies restroom when en femme. There is a certain thrill that goes along with doing this and where are we supposed to go anyway? but I have often wondered if this is what we should be doing. I have never used the women's restroom because it is disrespectful to women and our society not to mention illegal in many states and counties. The thought of guys (many of whom are straight) in the restroom with children or wives gives concern to many people. There needs to be a level of responsibility on our part if we choose to dress like this. We must accept all that goes with it. That is why I believer that the use of Ladies restrooms should be off limits. It will only cause greater disrespect to us and others. Many stores such as Kohls have "Family Restrooms." I think it would be promote greater respect if we would limit our use to these kind of restrooms.

[Sandra]

Well I'm a woman and I don't find it disrespectful, so long as they go in do what they need to do and leave without causing trouble then were is the problem. What if there isn't any family rooms? do you expect someone who is dressed to use the male toilets?

[Gerrijerry]

I agree with Sandra. When you need to go you need to go. That is all you need to do in the ladies room. No one will make a fuse if that is it. Do not fix makeup hair etc. It can be very dangerous for a person dressed female to enter the mens room.

[Eryn]

I will disagree with the OP. I'm in favor of the path of least disruption. It is far less disrupting for me to use the facility for the gender I am presenting. 99% of the time I will be completely unnoticed whereas if I were to use the opposite facility I would be noticed every single time which would be far more disruptive and downright dangerous.

[Vanessa Storrs]

I look upon the Ladies Room as the final frontier of crossdressing. I have been to the Ladies a few times but am still very nervous about using it. Recently I was in a casino in Las Vegas and had to use the facilities, I went into a fairly crowded men's room and as I entered an older gentleman took one glance at me and said, "I don't think you belong here." He may have been right, I am going to start using the ladies.

[Kristy_K]

I agree with Sandra. When you need to go you need to go. That is all you need to do in the ladies room. No one will make a fuse if that is it. Do not fix makeup hair etc. It can be very dangerous for a person dressed female to enter the mens room.

I would also agree until you get a F on your drivers licence.

Kristy

[Pinky188]

Whats the big deal? Your in girl mode so, you look like a woman. You walk in, go into a stall, shut the door and do you business. (remember to pull as you pee, to keep it real!) No disrespect at all. I do it and No one has ever been offended.

[Shelly Preston]

I live in the UK so I have no experience of the reaction in the USA.

I use the ladies restroom and I am not there for the thrill.
The only reason I am there is to answer the call of nature. If I need to fix my make up I will, just like any Genetic Woman would. However I dont not stay a second longer than necessary. If you have the option to use the family restroom, and that is more comfortable for you then thats ok.

Using the male restroom would probably cause havoc, not to mention being dangerous.

[RADER]

I totally agree with Sandra; After all, women rest rooms are equipped with individual
stalls for each Water Closet (Toilet) You have a degree of privacy you do not have in a mens
restroom. Mens generally have a set of urinals, and they do not always have privacy partitions
along side them.
Rader

[kimdl93]

I totally disagree. First, there's no thrill involved in using a rest room. Its a biological necessity. Besides, there isn't anything going on in a women's restroom that is remotely titilatting. One would have to be somewhat confused to think otherwise.

Furthermore, when I any other CDr is presenting as a woman, we are legally and ethically entitled to use a woman's restroom in most states. Your assert that this is some how disrespectful. In what way is using a bathroom "disrespectful"?

[sissystephanie]

I certainly have to agree with Kim. If you are dressed and presenting as a woman, than you should use the ladies restroom. That is just common sense! And there is no disrespect involved in a man dressed and presenting as a woman using a women's bathroom!! He is only doing what nature intended!!

As far as I am concerned, I do go out in public dressed as a female. But I now wear no makeup and no wig. So I am definitely a man in feminine clothing. I always use the mens room, because it is where I belong!!

[Chloe75]

Of course using the men's room is not an option it would cause way too much "disruption." That is not my concern. The "thrill" is being more like a woman by using the ladies room which many other posts have attested to. I personally don't find any thrill either in the idea.

[ArleneRaquel]

No thrill for me in regard to using the ladies room when I'm presenting as a female, it's a necessity and seems very natural. Eryn is 100% correct.

[Eryn]

The thrill for me lasted about two visits. After that the reality of the added difficulty of dealing with female garments and making sure I didn't mess up my look settled in. Women's stalls always have a hook for my purse and often have a bit more room, an important consideration when wrestling with garments. I seldom tarry in the room, but will check my lipstick if nobody else is there.

One thing to consider is to not go to the restroom as a group when out with sisters. One or two of us will go unnoticed whereas several tend to stand out.

[Cheryl T]

If there is a family restroom I will use it.
If not, then I'm using the Ladies Restroom.
I'm not subjecting myself to ridicule and possible physical harm by using the mensroom when I'm presenting as a woman.
I just go in, do my business, wash my hands and leave. I don't linger or loiter or chat people up. I've been doing this for 7 years and have encountered women (are they or are they other cd's???) and women with children. All interactions have been pleasant without confrontation.

And just to make things clear...there has never been any "Thrill" for me in using the ladies room....it's strictly a call of nature.
If you get your thrills this way then I would say you need to rethink why you do this.

[Aprilrain]

as a parent I can tell you that I would be highly annoyed if I was waiting to use the family restroom, with small kids in tow, and out comes a single person who could have used the the regular restrooms.

[Cynthia Anne]

I try not to go in public! But SOMETIMES A GIRLS GOTTA DO WHAT A GIRLS GOTTA DO!
I very much respect Sandra's comment! Hugs!

[TxKimberly]

Gonna have to disagree with the OP - using the ladies room is NOT being disrespectful of women, at least it is not inherently so. Now if you go in there with some perverted intent to try and "sneak a peek" then THAT is being disrespectful. The only "thrill" I ever got from using the ladies room was the terror that some ultra conservative and paranoid person might try to make a fuss over it - something that has never happened. Because of that concern, I DO try to use the Family / Special Needs restrooms where available though.

[Pinky188]

To me this is a non issue! If your not a perv, then go pee, touch up your makeup and leave. But, if I was in there and some guy dressed as a girl was in there acting all weird and just hanging out, I would have to kick his *** out of there! When your in your gender, you know where to go pee! Its very simple.

[Debglam]

For a lot of us this is about gender which is clearly a topic unto itself. It is for me however. I dress to come as close to being a woman as my circumstances will allow. I believe that Susan Stryker said something to the effect that one definition of gender is how we interact with the world. When I am out and dressed I interact with the world as a woman. Not as a man dressed as a woman. Since the law permits it, I use the women's rest rooms and dressing rooms. Not for any kind of thrill but simply to take care of my business as a woman. I go in, wait in line, use the facility, wash my hands and check my makeup then get out.

[Piora]

I'm closeted, never have gone out, and consequently never have had it come up. However IF I was out, dressed enfemme, I would most definitely use a Ladies Washroom. You walk in, make as little eye contact as possible, go into your stall, and do your thing. Check yourself in the mirror before you leave. You're in contact with others in there only for a few seconds.

Face it, if you're dressed, it's going to cause problems if you walk into a Men's Room, isn't it? I don't see it being disrespectful at all.

[Jilmac]

I believe using the ladies room when en femme is a given. As long as there are individual stalls that provide privacy, there should be no problem.

[Eryn]

as a parent I can tell you that I would be highly annoyed if I was waiting to use the family restroom, with small kids in tow, and out comes a single person who could have used the the regular restrooms.

You do make a good point. I've noted that places that have family restroom faciities seem to have no diaper-changing facilities from the regular restrooms. It does make sense, since both genders can access the changing facility in the family restroom.. I think that I would agree with April if I had infant who needed changing. It certainly would be a way to come under the direct scrutiny of a not-so-happy mother.

[PretzelGirl]

Addressing a couple of other points in the OP... First, welcome to probably the second most discussed topic around here (next to anything panty related). So it isn't just an increase, but something that gets tossed around a lot. So make yourself comfortable, you will see this subject again (and there might be a quiz after ).

But I also contend it isn't illegal in most places. There have been a lot of people posting here and I have seen very few that have come up with specific laws. There are actually some states that have laws that allow it. Here is a good reference to start with (one reference is never all encompassing) whenever talking about law and discrimination:

http://www.transgenderlaw.org/

[Helen_Highwater]

While it's not universally true across all of France, it some locations toilets are gender neutral or dual function with both stalls and urinals but usually laid out so the men stand with their backs towards the door and the stalls immediately inside; so it would need to be an inquisitive woman who would get to "see anything". It's a far more relaxed country when it comes to issues of gender. As long as you're discrete C'est la vie.