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    Does just wearing 1 or 2 articles of women's clothing make u a crossdresser?

    I haven't been around much lately, things have been really quiet with my friends CDing since our full dress up session. We still talk but not so much about this subject.

    But I got to thinking about it today. He hasn't wanted to dress like that again ( or at least as far as I know and I think he'd tell me) but has been wearing stockings on occasion and women's underwear even less often. He seems to NOT be interested in dressing in any more than that again, or at least not right now.

    SO my question is.... is he really even a crossdresser? I mean he likes the feel of the stockings and underwear but if he has no intrest in going any further than those things on occasion then is that really even crossdressing? I would think he'd want to take it further than just that?

    Doesn't matter to me either way, just thinking about it.

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    Just don't wear clothing made of two different materials....as stated in the Old Testament: Deuteronomy 22:11 You shall not wear a material mixed of wool and linen together.

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    We're all different, GG. And, the urge comes and goes to varying degrees, with many of us. The first thing I ever tried on was some ladies jeans. Then, I didn't think of trying on another thing for a year!

    I'm NOT going to make any predictions about your BF. But, if I were u, I wouldn't throw away his stash just yet!
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    I look at it this way... When I borrowed a pair of my wifes panties to wear under a very tight pair of leather pants for a costume party because my boxer breifs were too bulky, that was not crossdressing. When I continued to wear womens panties even thought I owned almost identical mens bikini breifs just becuase they were womens panties, that was crossdressing.
    And sitting here now in panties, bra with forms, skirt and female top with my toes painted pink, well, that is definately crossdressing.

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    what about guys that get all dressed up for a bar's drag contest as a joke? I've seen these a couple of times at a ski area, and I think some of the guys might be secret CDs, but others are just being good sports.

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    Crossdressers comes in all shapes and desires. With some it doesn't count unless they transform themselves into a a woman and then go out. Others are content to dress in part and then stay home. Some love pantihose, others love nighties. Some dress all the time, others dress now and then. But if they find happiness wearing women's clothing, they are all crossdressers.

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    If you wear any clothing of the opposite sex, you are technically a crossdresser! Maybe not what those of us on this forum would actually consider a crossdresser, but technically yes he is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sissystephanie View Post
    If you wear any clothing of the opposite sex, you are technically a crossdresser! Maybe not what those of us on this forum would actually consider a crossdresser, but technically yes he is!
    Is that is true, then almost all women (GGs) are crossdressers.
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    I'm not going to get all philosophical in my answer (though the topic reminds me a bit of "if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it..."), or try to predict what it is your friend may be feeling, but I'll simply explain my own experiences in the off chance that it'll provide some insight here.

    I LOVE being Lauren. Love it! Pulling the whole look together, being as complete as possible, brings about some of the best emotions I've ever felt. But just as some of us have bad hair days, I've had bad everything days when my look has been so sub-par that I kind of lose my enthusiasm for doing a complete transformation. During those periods, I didn't completely swear off of my dress-up periods (at least for very long), but I didn't have a desire or need to put on makeup, or sometimes even a wig, or do some of the other things that typically make me feel complete. I'm not exactly sure why this has happened. It could be that the poor outcomes gave me a "why bother?" attitude. It could also be sort of a self-protection mechanism: By dressing up only part way, I'm leaving open the possibility that I might conceivably attain a satisfactory look with a stronger effort, and my brain can kind of fill in the blanks and overlook the obvious flaws. If I go for the complete package and wind up falling short of what I'd like, I tend to be much more critical, as it's the best look I'm capable of at that particular time.

    Another experience I'll share -- and I've already babbled too long -- is this: As much as I enjoy wearing complete outfits (whether or not I'm going for a complete look with makeup), there are instances in which I don't have the energy or time to really dress up, but will still "be" Lauren. Sometimes when I'm reading, or cooking, or doing something else around the home, I'll slip into Lauren mode even if I'm not wearing much, if any, of her clothing. So the absence of full dress-up sessions or even feminine attire does not necessarily mean that the girl inside is absent as well.

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    There can be many reasons for his not wanting to... Like one could be and I say could be . that he might be fighting with himself, Like when some of us fight an inside battle of shame , guilt , hatred etc. Or that quick little dress up session satisfied his dressing need for a while. One thing were good at is denying our true selves. But I can't say just a thought. What ever his reason Like it was said before don't let him Purge....(thats throw all his girly stuff away) ! Just be there for him and tell him that its ok to be who he really is inside and when he's ready you'll be there.
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    My husband didn't dress for 2 years.... but, during that 2 years, yes... he was still a crossdresser.
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    Is a woman a crossdresser when she wears tennis shoes and sweat socks and a college sweatshirt? If a guy wears bikini underwear and women's jeans is he a crossdresser? Personally, I feel you need to be wearing far more than a couple of items of clothing to be considered cross dressing. But that's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baileystheone View Post
    Is a woman a crossdresser when she wears tennis shoes and sweat socks and a college sweatshirt? If a guy wears bikini underwear and women's jeans is he a crossdresser? Personally, I feel you need to be wearing far more than a couple of items of clothing to be considered cross dressing. But that's just me...
    Not all the time, Bailey.

    Her friend, was full on dressing, and stopped for his own reasons. Almost like a purge. Just because he slowed down to a few items, doesn't stop him from being one still. He will dress fully again, in time.
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    I agree with most the responses here. I often go long preriods without fully dressing or even under-dressing. Other times I might where 1 or 2 items for a while. But, ultimately I know who and what I am. The passion never goes away.

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    Thanks for the replies everyone, sorry I haven't been able to get on the computer for a few days.

    I defeniatly think he's working through some strong inner feelings and still trying to hide even from himself. I think he thinks if it's only a little or just one thing then that's ok? And it got me wondering too. We haven't really talked much about it lately, just little quick conversations here and there.

    I try not to talk about CDing in relation to his GF, not my business, actually none of his relationship is my business and I try to keep my opinions to myself. BUT the other day we were talking about painting his nails and how he can't in the summer she might see it and the conversation went in a not so good direction. She doesn't know about the dressing, any of it and I said something about his relationship and he jumped on me saying it was all fine. Well if it's so fine then why doesn't she know about this entire side of you and what you struggle with ( I'm assuming) daily?? I didn't say that of course but that's what I WANTED to say. How can her not knowing a huge part of you be ok? How can you not being able to be you all the time be ok?

    I don't know I guess I'm still all confused about this whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossdressersfriend GG View Post
    I don't know I guess I'm still all confused about this whole thing.
    I can share with you some observations I've made over the years. Every once in awhile there will be a member who will actually welcome a non-accepting partner. I know this seems counter-intuitive, but it does happen. These CDers say they are embarrassed to dress in front of their partners, or they don't feel comfortable doing it. Several CDers didn't want the CDing to go any further than it had, and they rather liked having the sort of built-in control of not having the opportunity to dress whenever they might want to.

    This forum is filled with people who for the most part, have accepted the CDing within themselves. But there are lots of CDers out there who haven't and who wouldn't dream of joining a forum such as this one, even though privately they might occasionally go to the trans porn sites. Or just lurk here. And I'm guessing that even for many of our members, there were years of purging cycles and wishing this would go away. I can't begin to describe the conflict that many GMs experience when they feel urges to dress as women, especially when combined with a fear that their SOs might think they are "lesser men" for doing this. Male socialisation is very strong and if someone doesn't have the personality to be flexible, or perhaps even the right background, it's not unheard of they would hate to see a feminine identity in themselves. So in this case, the barriers to the Cding are internal just as much as, if not more than, the external barriers of non-accepting spouses.

    If there is such a thing, you need to find a forum of CDers who haven't accepted themselves and ask about why your friend behaves the way he does. You might find answers there that are closer to his truth.

    My SO told me, way in the beginning of our relationship, that it was important for me to not always assume that he wanted to dress and more important, to always respect when he didn't. Not to sound like Yoda, but everyone must follow their own path.
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    If all I can put on are a pair of panties for the day, I am still a crossdresser. Don't worry about him, he may be fighting inner demons as we all have our thoughts to sort out of one kind or another. Just continue to be there with and for him.

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    Male crossdressers have a female gender identity to one degree or another. We dress in women's clothing to express that identity, to contact that part of ourselves. A woman who dresses in jeans, sweatshirts, etc. is not doing so to express a part of her identity. That's the difference between a male crossdresser and a woman wearing men's clothing. I would say that if a man is only wearing panties and pantyhose underneath his masculine attire, he's still crossdressing because he's doing so to express his feminine identity. At least that's my understanding. (Or maybe he just didn't have anything else clean to wear!)

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    Nothing he is going through is that unusual, so I would not worry too much about it. One's desire to crossdress can vary greatly from person to person, and even then for each person it can vary over time. The odds are his desire to dress may return in time, so I would encourage him not to purge.

    Even then, a majority of males who wear women's clothing only wear one or two or maybe a few items and do not dress fully. I would imagine that, statistically speaking, that most males who wear lingerie do not want to wear anything else or go further and are content with just the lingerie.

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    As has been said already, it's not about the clothes or what clothes or how often. Does he have a feminine gender identity that he expresses at varying times to varying degrees? If the answer is yes then yes, he is a cross dresser. Every so often I have gone through a period where it was just couldn't be bothered / not interested / damn just happy being a guy today. Also every so often I think you do have a look in the mirror and go "well, thats weird" and you go, hmm, we'll try something different for a bit. But it always comes back. Because it really is about gender identity and I don't think that really changes much.

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    You can argue it both ways but I would be inclined to agree with ReineD in that with just wearing a small amount of what would normally be female clothes it would be the intent of wearing it , but (always that but) seeing that he has gone all the way in the past I would suspect that there is at least a bit of intent going on .
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    Coming from a non cross dresser's perspective, Once you have accepted this you have accepted all of it.


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    IMHO - CD'ing is as much a state of mind as it is the outer presentation of clothing. I often can only wear under clothing and toe-nail polish. But I'm a crossdresser 24/7 - regardless of what I'm wearing. It's in my head all the time! It's part of who / what I am.

    The desire to fully dress comes and goes (ok, so it's mostly there 24/7), but opportunity isn't always there. But just because opportunity and circumstance prevent me from fully presenting femme, I'm still a crossdresser and always will be.
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    dressing is mandatory, meaning being around people in no clothes is usually frowned upon. But what you are wearing isn't so much. There aren't any arrows or bells or whistles that go off when a crossdresser takes a shower or a bath. So even if you are naked you are still a crossdresser. I have never dressed fully until last year, when I realized that there was a change in the way I felt about putting on woman's clothes. Now I do it at least 2-3 times a week and underdress all the time.

    Well there is something that others and I call the pink fog. It may have lifted over by where he lives but he is still a cross-dresser.

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    Imagine the following scene: a poor young kid takes a girl back home after a date. Her parents are gone, and she jumps all over him. Not at all what he was anticipating, so he's not exactly prepared. She quickly gets him down to his matching, pink lace bra and panties, where she stops, flabbergasted.

    Says she, "You ***** *****!"

    And he replies, "I'm not a crossdresser. It's only two items!"

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