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    does it make you gay?

    one gay friend of mine came to know abt my crossdressing and all he wants to judge about is that I am a gay according to him .... as I love crossdressing ...

    and I think of having sex while dressing as a female and am gettting a sexual pleasure out of it ......


    is this true ?
    i dont think if u r a crossdresser u ought to be gay or a transgender ..?

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    There is no "ought to be gay", if you're attracted to the same sex then you're gay.
    If you're attracted to both sexes, you're bi, and if you're only attracted to the opposite sex then you're straight.

    There is no choice here, crossdressing doesn't change your orientation.
    Though, the other answer is yes, if you're a crossdresser then you're transgender.

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    Gay guys like men.
    Maybe crossdressers or transgender women might seem like an exotic thrill, they're just simply called "tranny-chasers", theres no shortage of them, but the reality is gay guys are squarely focused on male in any form. From my measly personal observation, most gay guys seem to direct their attention to guys, stuff that looks muscular, not people dressed as women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by priyaverma View Post
    one gay friend of mine came to know abt my crossdressing and all he wants to judge about is that I am a gay according to him .... as I love crossdressing ...

    and I think of having sex while dressing as a female and am gettting a sexual pleasure out of it ......


    is this true ?
    i dont think if u r a crossdresser u ought to be gay or a transgender ..?
    If you're cross dressing you are transgender.

    If you're thinking about having sex with a man and you are a man pretending to be a woman... you're gay or bi (at the least, bi-curious).

    Very simple. Read the definitions lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by priyaverma View Post
    one gay friend of mine came to know abt my crossdressing and all he wants to judge about is that I am a gay according to him
    Some people believe in the strangest things.
    I've heard some gay guys say, all CD's are gay/bi in denial. Which while this may be true for some people, it's not true for everyone.

    Personally, if this guy is a true friend he'll respect your choices and not keep harping on about this rot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecca Star View Post
    Personally, if this guy is a true friend he'll respect your choices and not keep harping on about this rot.
    Not only that, but also realizing that they are not choices at all... but simply part of who you are. The only choice is the choice to be yourself or pretend to be someone your not.

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    darling this guy used to flirt with me being my friend ... but he is much more himself a transgender ... and i am all into girls .... and even have a sweet gf that I love the most ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by priyaverma View Post
    darling this guy used to flirt with me being my friend ... but he is much more himself a transgender ... and i am all into girls .... and even have a sweet gf that I love the most ....
    Ah. I didn't realize that you were talking about someone else's misinformed opinion of you is what you were talking about. I thought you were just being contradictory while describing yourself. I understand now.

    As for the transgender thing... it's a VERY big umbrella term that basically means ANYONE who doesn't fit the societal norms of the binary gender roles we have created. I personally think it's odd that we lump cross dressers in with people who actually identify partly or entirely as the opposite sex... but whatever lol...

    I guess if the straightest, most macho, manly guy was named Sally by his (obviously insane and malicious) parents, he would be transgender as well...

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    You are only "Gay" if you want to be! If you are a male and like to have sex with other males, than you are gay or whatever! I am a male who loves to crossdress, but I have no desire to be a woman in any way and certainly not sexually!

    Bree, if a man was named Sally, that would not automatically make him a transgender! And he would probably go by the name of Sal!! Cross dressers are transgender because they wear the clothing of the opposite sex. That applies however far the CD goes with being the opposite sex!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sissystephanie View Post
    Bree, if a man was named Sally, that would not automatically make him a transgender! And he would probably go by the name of Sal!! Cross dressers are transgender because they wear the clothing of the opposite sex. That applies however far the CD goes with being the opposite sex!
    I was making light of how all-encompasing the term 'transgender' is... it was a joke...

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    Being a crossdresser doesn't make one gay. Some may be, but others not. I am only into women-more to the point my wife. Never wanted or desired to be with a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sissystephanie View Post
    You are only "Gay" if you want to be!
    Did you hear that?
    It's the entire LGBT community disagreeing with you.

    I have no idea why it's so hard for straight people to get that sexual orientation is not a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebecca Star View Post
    I've heard some gay guys say, all CD's are gay/bi in denial. Which while this may be true for some people, it's not true for everyone.
    Sometimes I want to be a woman, I like the feminine esthetic so much that I want to be it. That doesn't mean I want to jump in the hay with the next young buck I see.
    My gay friends don't even get me. Therefore, there are times I wish I was just simply a gay dude instead of being a cd/tg that likes women......it would cut down my expenses on clothes, shoes, makeup and hair removal.
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    does not matter what the circumstance- ANY MAN (XY CHROMOSOME) THAT IS ATTRACTED TO ANOTHER MALE, (again does not matter the situation, ie a male dresses in ladies clothing) IS NOT A STRAIGHT MALE, PERIOD. Why do people make excuses and deny this to themselves?

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    God, I just love LABELS and how people make up their own definitions for these LABELS...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bree_K View Post
    If you're cross dressing you are transgender.
    REALLY? Just how big is that TG umbrella? Must be one huge ass umbrella!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roberta Marie View Post
    Being gay is not a choice. Being gay is not "catchy". Someone does not become gay. You cannot be "turned" gay.
    So, I can't take lessons to become GAY?
    If I'm not gay and I go pick up a guy somewhere, I'm still not GAY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voulez-Vous View Post
    God, I just love LABELS and how people make up their own definitions for these LABELS...

    REALLY? Just how big is that TG umbrella? Must be one huge ass umbrella!
    "Transgender ( /trænzˈdʒɛndər/) is a general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies to vary from culturally conventional gender roles."

    "trans·gen·der  [trans-jen-der, tranz‐] Show IPA
    noun
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    a person appearing or attempting to be a member of the opposite sex, as a transsexual or habitual cross-dresser."

    "Transgender
    An umbrella term for transsexuals, cross-dressers (transvestites), transgenderists, gender queers, and people who identify as neither female nor male and/or as neither a man or as a woman. Transgender is not a sexual orientation;transgender people may have any sexual orientation. It is important to acknowledge that while some people may fit under this definition of transgender, they may not identify as such."

    Is it that hard to Google something? lol...

    Quote Originally Posted by CINDYO View Post
    does not matter what the circumstance- ANY MAN (XY CHROMOSOME) THAT IS ATTRACTED TO ANOTHER MALE, (again does not matter the situation, ie a male dresses in ladies clothing) IS NOT A STRAIGHT MALE, PERIOD. Why do people make excuses and deny this to themselves?
    Soooo true. And dressing up like a girl is only done in an attempt to attract men (even if it's only subconsciously) so you can have homosexual sex with them. Any excuse otherwise is just an excuse; you're repressing your true homosexuality.

    Oh, I'm sorry CINDYO, was that too judgmental of me? Do I not understand your situation? Hrmm... wonder where I've seen that before.

    /sarcasm

    Only someone who is unempathetic and cisgendered could believe that there cannot be a difference between internal gender and external sex. This is what a lot of transgendered and transsexual individuals who are not cross dressers live with. Male and female is not simply XX or XY and the advancing medical community is seeing this. And for someone who is a minority, who does get judged by others who think they are something they are not, I would think that you would be more considerate towards other people and other situations that you don't understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by priyaverma View Post

    and I think of having sex while dressing as a female and am gettting a sexual pleasure out of it ......
    Oh so your friend said this not you..

    He's using stereotypes that people use all the time. Crossdressing did not make me Bi or gay. However it makes some have Bi fantasies.

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    Oh.. I should add that some crossdressers are gay but are in the minority so your friend is incorrect. The act of crossdressing doesn't make you gay, as we all know.
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    Gay? Hell no I'm downright miserable.

    What? oh it's just someone being uneducated and/or biased. Now I got ya.

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    I feel very gay wearing womens clothing and I always have a good time...
    No! not that sort of gay.... Happy.
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    He is trying to seduce you by convincing you that you are gay.

    This is not a friend!

    Most who crossdress are heterosexual.

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    I would have to say be happy with yourself and try not to put too much weight on what others think of you. For me personally I was very afraid of what people would think of me if they ever found out i liked to wear women's clothing. However, after telling my best friend, a GG, and then a gay friend, both were more than willing to accept me for who I was and I stopped caring about what other people would say.

    And yes crossdressers tend to be lumped into the whole LGBT umbrella, but at the same time we all have our own definitions. We are "individuals" and yet people tend to classify every one into categories. Groups that we form ourselves are fine it just these so called "social norms/classifications" that I tend to have a problem with, but that me

    Again, be yourself and try not to think too much about what others may think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by priyaverma View Post
    one gay friend of mine came to know abt my crossdressing and all he wants to judge about is that I am a gay according to him .... as I love crossdressing ...

    and I think of having sex while dressing as a female and am gettting a sexual pleasure out of it ......


    is this true ?
    i dont think if u r a crossdresser u ought to be gay or a transgender ..?
    Welcome, priyaverma.

    Gender identity is separate from sexual attraction. There are male crossdressers and transsexuals, and non-crossdressing men who are attracted to only women, only men, both, or nobody (asexuals).

    You will know if your attraction to men is more than a wish to enhance your feminine feelings, once you actually go out there and try it. If the experience of being one half of two male-bodied individuals having sex is pleasant to you, then you will know that you are same-sex attracted. If you are also attracted to women, then you will know that you are bi.

    Oh, and 'transgender' is an umbrella term that applies to a wide variety of individuals who express cross-gender feelings, including crossdressers and transsexuals.

    Edit - As to being bi-curious, honestly I wouldn't be able to stand not knowing. lol. I'd go out there and try it to see how it fit, and then I'd have my answer. I suppose there are those who like to fantasize and who don't want to try it, but then I guess the answer for these individuals is they are not bi, they just enjoy the fantasy. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    Welcome, priyaverma. -----------------------------
    Edit - As to being bi-curious, honestly I wouldn't be able to stand not knowing. lol. I'd go out there and try it to see how it fit, and then I'd have my answer. I suppose there are those who like to fantasize and who don't want to try it, but then I guess the answer for these individuals is they are not bi, they just enjoy the fantasy. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.
    Excellent advice, Reine! Which is why I came up with the "Doc's toe test". It works on all sexes, genders, and individuals for ME! Here it is:

    I'm NOT a foot person! However, when I'm excited about a person, toe kissing WOULD be acceptable! To find out if I'm REALLY attracted to someone, I only have imagine us kissing, etc. each other's toes! If I'm good with that, alrite, move ahead! If not? I'm OUT! As yet, I've never seen a male that has passed this test! And, these days, most of my GG dates don't! Sigh!

    Priya, or ANYONE, u can take this test yourself. And, not have to physically try someone in bed to know u aren't into them! Pick some other body part that u find icky if you're a foot person and imagine that instead!
    You're welcome!
    Last edited by ReineD; 05-31-2012 at 12:21 AM. Reason: You grabbed my quote while I was editing, so I've just edited the quote to match my post. :p
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