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    self imposed full immersion into the world of femininity

    Since I’m seriously considering transitioning to fulltime, I came up with the idea of a self imposed immersion into the world of femininity. I guess this is my way of making sure that this is what I really want to do for the rest of my life. I work from home, and so far this week, I’ve been wearing nothing but dresses or skirts, heels, full makeup, etc. I need to seriously see for myself what it's really like being fulltime femme, if I get tired of it, and if this deep need inside me will disappear. So far, it hasn’t, and I‘m loving it. I know real women don’t look and act like June Cleaver 24/7, but I figure doing this will give me the full femme experience, and I can always go more casual from here.
    I got a full set of french gel nails this past Saturday, before I started my trial run. It’s been quite exasperating at times getting used to the longer nails, but I feel that I’m adjusting well. I also had my brows threaded into a femme arch, when I got the nails. I don’t think I’ve attracted much attention in public, but I know I need to build my feminine self confidence & self esteem. I need to push myself to be more sociable in my new lifestyle. I plan on getting multiple ear piercing on Friday. I haven’t yet decided how long my immersion test is going to last, maybe a month or more? I’m just trying to do my best one day at a time and see how it goes. Am I crazy? Yeah, probably!

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    Wow, good luck! It's a brave move, I hope you get what you want out of it. I'd love to be able to do it myself, but my circumstances don't permit!
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    I think all of us at some time in our lives think we are a bit crazy, so what, after C/Ding for 60 years I still enjoy every second of it, just enjoy every moment,life is too short
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    Sounds like a great way to start. You may never want to go back. Hope it goes smoothly for you.

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    Sounds like you're going in head first. Whatever works for you. For years I just spent more and more time en femme, until one day I realized that I never switch back to full male mode. It was a twenty year trip. Now drab is leaving the house with no make up or boobs. Have a great trip!

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    I tried to stay dressed for 10 days

    but I could only stay dressed over the weekend with going back and forth.
    had to go get my mail and run some errands that could not get done in female mode as I have to show ID



    [SIZE="4"]you need locking heels and a locking corset with the key being kept somewhere out of easy reach [/SIZE]

    there is a key holding service for this and its about 50-$60/month +
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    You're describing RLE (real life experience), which is recommended for every transitioning transsexual for I believe at least a year (some people do it for 2 years).

    You can read more about it in the WPATH (World Professional Assoc for TG Health) "Standards of Care" below, on page 61 (or page 66 in the thumbnails), under "Rationale for a preoperative, 12-month experience of living in an identity-congruent gender role".

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...ofNAFWKDnqfEkQ

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    Wow, sounds like a recurring dream I have. Good luck with your venture. Just wish I could be doing it!

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    RLE, awesome, enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgirlceleste View Post
    Sounds like you're going in head first. Whatever works for you. For years I just spent more and more time en femme, until one day I realized that I never switch back to full male mode. It was a twenty year trip. Now drab is leaving the house with no make up or boobs. Have a great trip!
    Yes, I'm going "head first" into the deep water so-to-speak. I knew if I didn't go for full immersion, I would have always wondered. The boob issue...yes, I'm going for 24/7. I used the SkinBond cement to attach my forms Saturday night and I don't think they've budged.
    But getting used to having 38c boobs fulltime? that’s a process.


    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    You're describing RLE (real life experience), which is recommended for every transitioning transsexual for I believe at least a year (some people do it for 2 years).
    Yes Reine, I guess this is kinda my version of RLE w/o the hormones. I seriously considered getting hormones, but decided to try this first.
    I've already learned a lot in just the past 4 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousunknown View Post
    Yes Reine, I guess this is kinda my version of RLE w/o the hormones. I seriously considered getting hormones, but decided to try this first.
    I've already learned a lot in just the past 4 days.
    I think this is very wise!

    I don't know if you've read the link I posted yet (it's a gold mine for anyone who considers transition), but the importance of RLE isn't so much about determining how you can cope with the grooming aspect of being a woman. Believe me if you ever do transition, you'll save the pretty clothes, jewelry, manicured nails, etc, for special occasions out, and half the time you'll just throw on a Tshirt and jeans and head out the door like the rest of us. It's more about dealing with others as a woman and learning that some of your male privilege will disappear, and sad to say but also dealing with the rejection you'll encounter not only from some strangers (for example being "sirred" even when you're presenting as a woman), but more importantly, by those among your family, friends, coworkers, and community members who will potentially disapprove of your transition.

    I've heard it said many times here ... transitioners need to develop a tough skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    I've heard it said many times here ... transitioners need to develop a tough skin.
    Reine, I get the whole social aspect of transition, and I'm working on it. I know it just doesn't happen over night. And I'm not trying to put too much emphasis on clothing, etc. I’m not saying real women go around wearing dresses, heels, and makeup every day. I just wanted to find out for myself what it was like doing it fulltime, and seeing if I was happy with that. I know I can always dress down.
    Tough skin, you are absolutely right about that. Transition is also an emotional, mental, adjustment. Nobody said it was easy.

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    The biggest pain for me when I went full time was the constant shaving. Chest every day, legs every other day and face twice a day. If you are someone like me who is a naturally hairy guy, you really have to keep on top of it to remain presentable.
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    Very interesting keep a diary on here and maybe it will become a sticky for the rest of us.

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    there were some hormones cream that although they dId not get rid of hair they made the hair more fine.
    they use to sell it at these transformation salonS in north Hollywood and they still do online or you could get a prescription.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Simmons View Post
    The biggest pain for me when I went full time was the constant shaving. Chest every day, legs every other day and face twice a day. If you are someone like me who is a naturally hairy guy, you really have to keep on top of it to remain presentable.
    Last edited by luscious; 09-12-2012 at 10:50 PM.

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    Famous, I see you as just a normal person. You found your spot on the gender spectrum , and you went with it. I support you.

    I am no longer a fan of male clothes, and prefer female presentation in my social life. I's a pretty easy thing to do in New jersey, and particularly in New York City where the normal hetero folks treat you just the same. Wearing a dress in public is "old hat" for me. I hope you can do as well in Mississippi somehow.
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    Congratulations, good luck and have a blast! I envy you; I have longed to do something like this all my life. I've lives as a woman for a week or two before, but haven't had the chance to go longer. Keep us posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousunknown View Post
    Since I’m seriously considering transitioning to fulltime, I came up with the idea of a self imposed immersion into the world of femininity. I guess this is my way of making sure that this is what I really want to do for the rest of my life. I work from home, and so far this week, I’ve been wearing nothing but dresses or skirts, heels, full makeup, etc. I need to seriously see for myself what it's really like being fulltime femme, if I get tired of it, and if this deep need inside me will disappear.
    Staying at home and dressing up has nothing do with being fulltime or building confidence in public.
    Quote Originally Posted by luscious View Post
    I tried to stay dressed for 10 days

    but I could only stay dressed over the weekend with going back and forth.
    had to go get my mail and run some errands that could not get done in female mode as I have to show ID
    so you show ID.
    Last edited by Miranda-E; 09-12-2012 at 11:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousunknown View Post
    Since I’m seriously considering transitioning to fulltime, I came up with the idea of a self imposed immersion into the world of femininity. .........................
    That seems like a good start. Of course, you still have to go outside and mingle with real people, clothes and boobs arent the entire experience.

    Do take notes and let us know how it goes.
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    You seem to have gotten some really good advice here.

    I'll be curious to hear how the dressing-to-the-nines-non-stop thing is working for you. I was glad to read your acknowledgement that the typical woman out there doesn't necessarily dress in that manner on a routine basis, it shows that you are at least somewhat grounded in this whole thing. But at what point will you retreat into casual? Also, is it fair to assume you are presenting 24/7 as female including all errands? That would seem to be an important part of this.
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    If you can do these experiments I think that is a good start to figure out where you should head. My only question is that if this is a month long process your piercings and possibly your brow shape may last long and by the end of the month you will still be in starter studs. I think reading the standard would be a great guide. I have tried this every so often when the family is away for a day or so and it is great for two reasons. Firstly I get to fill my need for Sara time but I also reaffirm that I don't want to be Sara 24/7.
    Good luck and if you think transition is the way, you may want to find a therapist/doctor to start working with. HRT should only be done under doctor's care. Many potential health implications you need to know about.

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    ReineD,

    Thanks for the post. I look forward to reading it for no other reason but curiosity as I do not wish to go that route.

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    Reine, your so right on about "male privilege" disappearing. When I transitioned, my work was very supportive (and this was 1979) and I quickly rose to lead then dept supervisor...and that was it. The glass-ceiling was reached. Also, as a woman, I had to prove myself everyday. Years after transition, if I came in late one morning there was no "official" comment made, but there was plenty of negative feedback. Same for leaving early; but as a guy, either was no big deal. The list goes on... BUT, would I go back to full-time fem? In a heartbeat...

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    Good luck, and like others here have said, you need to do your erands and everything in full femme to really get the experience. I have never had a problem showing my ID in businesses, no body comments, sometimes I even get approving comments or smiles. I was scared to death when I got pulled over for speeding (really it wasn't my fault) lol. But the officer was very professional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carris View Post
    Good luck, and like others here have said, you need to do your erands and everything in full femme to really get the experience. I have never had a problem showing my ID in businesses, no body comments, sometimes I even get approving comments or smiles.
    Yes, I’ve been full femme since this past Saturday night. I'm well over 100 hrs. into this now.
    I’ve gone to the post office, shopping a couple of times, etc. It's been quite an eye-opening experience, to say the least. Having boobs 24/7 has probably been the biggest adjustment for me personally so far, and of course the gel nails. Let me tell you ladies, long nails require a very different technique when typing on a PC keyboard. And having boobs fulltime, you will bump into things sometimes, it just happens. When you just dress occasionally, you can’t fully really appreciate what being 24/7 is like. As I said, I’m getting my piercings done tomorrow, I'm pretty excited about that. And if I can keep my confidence built up, I may go to a casino in Biloxi tomorrow night.
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