So, many of us look pretty good as girls, some even talk like girls but just how convincing are you when it comes to being girlish? By that I mean subtle movements, body language, facial expressions and actually mental inclination? If you were another person associating with yourself, would you be convinced you really are a girl? Some food for thought anyway.
Second star to the right and straight on till morning
Very interesting question. I'll have to think on that and get back with you.
Probably not very "girlish". After this many years living as a male and working in the "trades", the "manish" stuff is hard to shake. And my wife would probably get upset if I stared wiggling when I walk.
If I'm going to do it, I'll have to be able to turn it on and off as appropriate.
[SIGPIC]http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=82706&dateline=137762 0356[/SIGPIC]Linda
once you are convincing enough to pass you will be that way 24 - 7. It is not something that you turn on and off. Yes it takes lots of practice to become convincing that you are a woman. If a person is full time that is a wonderful feeling to just be accepted and not have to think about it all the time. But if you are not full time you will be noticed in male mode. In fact that is why a woman can wear MALE CLOTHES AND YOU STILL know she is a woman.
TO OVER WEIGHT TO POST A PHOTO, MY wife tells me I look like I am pregnant
In my mind I think I am as girlish as the Victoria Secret Models. In reality not so.
TV and movie actors can turn things like this on and off at will. It might be difficult, but I believe it can be done. I'm not really trying though. I have no thought or desire to live as a woman full time, just a desire to be able to pass from a distance from time to time.
If you look at all people, they are not just "girly" or "manly". Many females have manerisms that seem more "male" and vice versa.
[SIGPIC]http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=82706&dateline=137762 0356[/SIGPIC]Linda
I do video tape myself when I am dressed. I can say that the video does show that I am not as girlish as I feel. I try to use it to enhance feminine mannerisms
I tried that but it's hard to get a lot of footage without someone else to do the taping. Really, about all you can do is walk away from the camera and back to it. I take a lot of still photos and it helps a bit. Mostly, I need to learn to smile.Originally Posted by sabrinaedwards
[SIGPIC]http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=82706&dateline=137762 0356[/SIGPIC]Linda
For good professional actors, yes it is. But I don't think many of us here are that good, along with having the physical body to be able to do that.
Some causes of crossdressing you've probably never even considered: My TG biography at:http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...=1#post1490560
There's an addendum at post # 82 on that thread, too. It's about a ten minute read.
Why don't we understand our desire to dress, behave and feel like a girl? Because from childhood, boys are told that the worst possible thing we can be, is a sissy. This feeling is so ingrained into our psyche, that we will suppress any thoughts that connect us to being or wanting to be feminine, even to the point of creating separate personalities to assign those female feelings into.
While this is a highly subjective question, I believe it is one that can be answered honestly. When I am en femme, I immediately begin to move, think, and talk with as much femininity as I have learned from watching women. Plus, I practice. As to whether or not I'm convincing, I have to rely on what I'm told by those doing the "viewing."
I travel with two people on a regular basis who know Lara very well. One, who is female, is constantly critical, always trying to help me improve. The other, who is male, says I make a much better girl than guy. I like that. I don't know if he's being truthful or not. I've never been particularly effeminate, but I can turn it on and off as has been suggested.
The one difficulty I know I have is voice. I find myself whispering a lot so as to not allow the bass in my voice to surface so much. I guess the questions goes to passability, but if I understand the intent of the question, you're not just talking about passing but integrating. I've gone back and forth for so long now that I don't have the nerves I used to have and that exudes more natural confidence. The old saying, "Don't let them see you sweat," I have much better control over that now.
The other part of this does go to "mental inclination." That's where I am entering the pink fog. The more time I spend en femme, the more I am able to convince myself I am something that actually I am not. Maybe the day will come that I can walk into the fog and never turn back.
The reason I asked this question was that I recently re-discovered an old VHS video tape I made in the 1980's of myself dancing to various pop songs. I thought I was good these days but I had the basic feminine moves back then and that really surprised me. I'm thinking that if we "un learn" the societal role we are assigned , we will do very well in fulfilling the other one if we make it all our own and just become our own person. Perhaps we are really all women under the skin anyway.
Second star to the right and straight on till morning
I am very girlish, even when I am dressed in (male) work clothes, I wear a bra and panties every day. My demeanor, how I walk, how I talk, how I hold myself.....very feminine. After all, I am a woman, unfornately I was born into a male body.
For emotional reasons I really wish I could be more girlish. I was raised to be masculine and stoic. This is so ingrained in me that I have difficulty expressing emotions. I really wish that I could do so better and it would probably be healthier for me.
Eryn
"These girls have the most beautiful dresses. And so do I! How about that!" [Kaylee, in Firefly] [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"What do you care what other people think?" [Arlene Feynman, to her husband Richard]
"She's taller than all the women in my family, combined!" [Howard, in The Big Bang Theory]
"Tall, tall girl. The woman could hunt geese with a rake!" [Mary Cooper, in The Big Bang Theory]
When all is said and done, I can be pretty damn girlish if I want to be, seems to be natural when I'm en femme. MY GF even said as I was dancing at the club one night:"Shake it girl!". All fine and good but I'm enjoying being a guy with her also.
Second star to the right and straight on till morning
Eryn, I am pretty much the same way. It is very difficult for me to express my emotions.
Deedee
It's not wrong... but it is forbidden!
It has been said in so many different ways, and it is something of a cliche, but the only thing it really comes down to is confidence. Difficult to attain, impossible to buy, it just takes practice and attitude. Real women are confident in public, just as real men are. I often envy real women who are dressed nicely, out doing the things people do all the time. Going to the store, having lunch. Tentativeness, timidity, these things attract negative attention. I am a large and not particlularly attractive man. As a woman, a disaster. Some time ago, I was getting a makeover at Rori's and she said something that has really stuck with me. She told me to strive to look, "put together." It gives me the confidence to go out, dressed comfortably and age appropriately, and walk among my fellow humans and my confidence challenges them to look at me as anything other than a woman. If I go out dressed like a cartoon character, or as a porn actress, then I deserve the odd looks I would get, just as a woman would if she were to dress or act that way. On the other hand, if I dress like women actually do, and feel feminine and real, I come off that way. And that is the feeling I want to have all the time when I am dressed. Not scared to be out, not afraid of people's reactions, just a woman out doing what women do.
I tend to use my hands a lot and have those darn female inflections on certain words.
I'm pretty girly in boy mode so I get called gay quite a bit.
That's what happens when a male acts like a female. And it's exactly why you have to learn to turn it on and off if you're a crossdresser, not someone living as a female.
[SIGPIC]http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=82706&dateline=137762 0356[/SIGPIC]Linda
Me too I'm somewhat effeminate.
At least you both are pretty. I am just a old bald fat guy who is female on the inside.
Kate,
I am girlish enough to be accepted by a group of women, but not too girly to be rejected by the same women.
Work on your elegance,
and beauty will follow.
It definitely is nice to be accepted either way Bev.
Second star to the right and straight on till morning
Depends on who you ask.
My wife and best friend says I'm very girlie. My casual friends say I'm pretty alpha. I say I'm kinda. I do the usual "guy" things, but I have a couple "girl quirks"
I like being in the "girl spot" in bed. (Head on her chest arm over her boob)
I'm squeamish about gross things and bugs
I pick and primp my body constantly
I tear up easily - hallmark channel
I'm prone to mood swings :-D
I find a lot of things "cute"
Physical traits
I have a girl frame except shoulders (years of swimming)
My female friends all say they can talk to me like I'm their sister
I catch myself constantly though sitting or having girl like gestures, gait, mannerisms.
I'm pretty well accepted as female where I live (I'm sure some have read me or just think I'm strange or gay ) but when I'm out of my usual area ... I'm more defensive and this is where my inate masculine traits come out . Like many of us here ; I overcompensated as a young man with risk - taking behaviour and a penchant for fighting - all to prove what a man I was !! So I get wary and combative - not very girly unless your'e into womans wrestling or roller-derby , LOL.
Which I could get into ,no no, I'll just stay around my "hood" and be all girly...
Linda
twitter : @ lindaesj
I'm pretty sure most would assume I'm gay just from the fact I carry a purse, and of course when I choose to wear dangly earrings while looking like a guy I'm pretty sure for most people that cements it.
But it's not a big deal, and in fact I like having what I call "the gay buffer" around, stereotypically people expect that sort of things from a gay man so I'll just take advantage.
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