Such an incredible story. I'm glad you shared it. <3Originally Posted by Rianna Humble
Such an incredible story. I'm glad you shared it. <3
Last edited by DaniG; 03-15-2013 at 06:31 PM.
LOL. Some of the post-op TSs would disagree with you.
OK. maybe without SRS, but certainly must live legally with name change, and full time to everyone, as a woman. I suppose the decision to have SRS and when has too many variables to discuss here. But, I think the consensus is pretty strong that if a person has enjoyable use of the male anatomy, this kinda disqualifies her from being a woman.
This doesn't mean that non-transitioners, non-fulltimers will not have strong feminine identification, however ... which brings us back to the concept of gender non-conformity, or non binary gender.
Reine
Cross dressing has NOTHING to do with transsexualism. It is logical that transsexuals cross dress as they feel they are that gender in which they dress. Cross dressers just dress as the opposite gender, not feel they are that gender.
Me too although the balance is changing prefering more femme time without ever considering myself TS. Maybe that reflects human nature - the more you get of a good thing the more you want.
Last edited by Michelle (Oz); 03-15-2013 at 06:02 PM.
im on the fence about this myself. Part of me wants to transition but part of me doesn't. I have alot of time to figure this out. Atm I am happy, but i do feel the same as others have stated that when it comes back to turning into guy mode, i really dont want to.
yep...this. exactly my thoughts. I was born this way (TG) ^_^
CDing just gave me a way to feel a little more like myself
Emi ~.^
Last edited by Emily_Safford; 03-15-2013 at 07:25 PM. Reason: Decided to finish my post this time -_-
Gonna have to disagree with there Reine, (though I do agree 99.99% of most of your post!) but IMHO it's the state of mind of how your enjoying the use of the anatomy that you have. For example reversing roles, (I won't go into details but if you try to put yourself on the receiving side of what your doing) it might be in your mind but then again that is the biggest sex organ we all have!
I was talking with a friend tonight in almost this regard, but it was more life in general, we were discussing my progress with the treatment here. He mentioned I was in high spirits even though with the process here I was a year behind where I wanted to be. I replied that though frustrating, it was easier knowing I was still heading in the right direction and I've always lived to make the best of what I got. Now if I had everything yesterday or better yet yesteryear then I'm sure I'd be even more positive than I am currently. Though the pysch Dr. asked how I would feel if they delayed my treatment and all I could say is I would deal with it at the time cause I don't know how it would affect me till it happens... (Darn more rant, soo sorry!)
Sorry for the rant, but in short... most people do need to 'relieve' some pressure now n then
I think I get what you mean.Gonna have to disagree with there Reine, (though I do agree 99.99% of most of your post!) but IMHO it's the state of mind of how your enjoying the use of the anatomy that you have. For example reversing roles, (I won't go into details but if you try to put yourself on the receiving side of what your doing) it might be in your mind but then again that is the biggest sex organ we all have!
But I was trying to say that in the purest sense, the transwomen who have risked everything in order to transition so they could live as true women full time ... jobs, family, friends, etc, and for whom transition was a question of life or death, felt so uncomfortable in their male bodies that to them, their male anatomies were a gross disfigurement. These transwomen would never be able to enjoy their male anatomy in any way, shape, or form. And so to them, individuals who choose to keep their male anatomies because they enjoy the sexual benefits are on a different level than they are. Granted sometimes there is a time lag for some TSs until everything can get done (pre-op), but during this time the appendage isn't used, especially after some time on HRT and anti-androgens when things become atrophied ... a chemical castration so to speak. And also there are older transwomen perhaps who cannot have SRS for medical reasons, but the enjoyment of their male anatomy is the last thing on their minds.
But I was saying earlier that individuals who are not the Types V or VI TSs per the Benjamin Scale still have gender issues, they can still have a feminine identity, but they are not fully at the female end of the binary gender like the Type V or VI TSs. If this makes sense.
http://harrychart.goiar.f-m.fm/Origi...ginalChart.jpg
Last edited by ReineD; 03-15-2013 at 11:32 PM.
Reine
To me Reine, and I would never diminish the fact that a TS individual has the real sense that they were born in the wrong body. The brain doesn't match, period.
However, for a lot of us, (as you know so well) feel just as strongly that we were born TG. The gender spectrum isn't black and white, some of us exist in between, not because we choose to but because we were destined to, created to, and have to.
Happiness can be elusive, however with effort, can be found.
Transtronaut
You must first find yourself before you can discover your future-
Absolutely!!
There are people who fit at either end of the gender binary: non-trans genetic men, non-trans genetic women, and Type V & VI transsexual men and women with severe GD who alter their bodies in order to conform to their brain genders and who end up, at the potential cost of losing their jobs and families, living full-time as if they were born in the right bodies. There is no other choice but to do this for these transsexuals.
And then there are people who are gender non-conforming (non-binary), who have a milder form of GD but still serious gender identity issues that do not conform to their genetic sex (which by default is binary .. people are either born physically male or female except the intersex folks but this is another topic altogether), but who also find it bearable or possible, for a number of reasons including the preservation of their families and jobs, to live their lives partially in conformance with their genetic sex even though they may feel torn inside. In my opinion, this is just as difficult, just as painful to navigate as the Type V & VI transsexuals who risk losing it all for transition, because almost no one understands the concept of non-binary including many of the folks who are non-binary. The happier non-conforming TGs are the ones who come to terms with defining themselves as non-conforming like my SO and who manage to construct their lives in such a way as to give free reign to their gender expression(s), without transitioning. My SO does not identify as a male. But, she has come to the conclusion that she would also not be happy living as a female full time either, and this is hardest to understand for most people.
... and then there are the CDers who identify as men, who are having a great time expressing their feminine selves especially if they have supportive wives, and who are just as happy to revert to guy mode.... but then there are very unhappy CDers whose wives do not approve and the repression of their feminine expression can cause such deep unhappiness that they may even believe they need to live full time. If these CDers had accepting wives, however, they would be just as happy as the rest of the CDers.
It's complex, isn't it.
And I haven't even mentioned the people who do this for fetish.
Last edited by ReineD; 03-16-2013 at 01:30 AM.
Reine
Transsexuals tend to dislike the male body they inhabit. They will spend as much time ed femme as possible. I like both sides of the coin in guy mode im happy and in girl mode I am fabulously happy. That makes me a cross dresser plus I need my man self for certain things.
Thanks for the explanations, ReineD, and the link to the benjamin scale chart in your prior post. This was extremely educational for me at least. (I have a bunch to learn!)
The different ways gender is expressed here makes for a pretty exotic group of people. I would imagine in some cases it's difficult to decide exactly which type someone falls into in borderline cases.
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