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    I sat down with my wife this afternoon, and told her I was transgendered.

    I'll paraphrase, because I'm just not comfortable sharing what I wrote to everyone, but if you are interested in the text of what I wrote, PM me. I didn't exactly stay to script, anyway - as might be expected, the conversation had a life of its own.

    I started out by telling her how much I loved her, and that I was still sober. She had no doubts of either of those things. But I told her I mentioned sobriety, because I'm sure she'd noticed, and been worried, about my anxiety, negativity, and paranoia over the past few months.

    I told her that we'd worked together over the start of this year to solve the financial matter I was concerned about, and that while that helped with my anxiety, it didn't make it go away, and in fact, it had gotten worse.

    She allowed that she'd noticed this, and had been worried. I then told her that about a month ago, I'd found a therapist, and started counseling, and apologized for not telling her, because I was so ashamed. She didn't think a therapist was anything to be ashamed of -- so then I told her.

    Honey, there's no good way to say this, so I'm just going to say it. I have realized in the course of therapy, and in talking to people on an internet forum, that I am transgendered.

    There is a part of me, in my mind, that feels female - maybe a big part. I don't understand all this yet, but I know that fighting this is a big source of my anxiety.

    Her immediate response surprised me, and was more positive than I'd expected - she was worried that she might have unknowingly said things that made me feel bad, and that I didn't need to feel ashamed. She was not feeling deceived - she mentioned this several times.

    I then told her:
    - I still feel the same way about her, I love her more than anything
    - I'm not gay (she allowed she never doubted that)
    - I don't want a sex change
    - This isn't some kinky sex thing
    - This isn't something I've chosen, and this probably isn't going away.
    - I don't want her to lose the man she loves.
    - I do need to express my femininity sometimes.

    I then went on to tell her I'd had feelings like this a couple of other times in my life, but that I'd suppressed them, and blamed them on my alcoholism. I told her those were lies, and that I felt horrible about hiding this from her.

    She told me that an apology wasn't needed - I was hiding it from myself too, she understood that. I was really afraid that she wouldn't.

    I told her how much I admired her own personal honesty, and that I really admired her as a person, and that was part of what made me feel so terrible about hiding something from her.

    I told her that I'd started wearing a few items of women's clothes over the past year, and a lot more over the past 2-3 months. She was really surprised that I'd purchased anything for myself, and wanted to know "Where are they?" So I told her I'd concealed them in my home office.

    I had a lot more apology lined up - I really do feel badly for not telling her sooner - but I also told her that I considered waiting longer to tell her, until I understood this better. But I felt that she was already seeing changes, and that my emotional state was worse than I'd let on, and it was unfair for her not to know these things - I didn't want to torture her by making her endlessly speculate on what was going on with me.

    So I told her that I needed some things:
    - for her to keep loving me, I couldn't bear to lose her
    - for her to try to find some acceptance in her heart for this part of me
    - that I needed time and space to explore these feelings - I couldn't bottle them up anymore. She understand this. I told her I don't want her to be uncomfortable, so I want to find compromises we can both live with.
    - I didn't want to do anything to damage her status in our community, we should keep this a secret. She agreed.
    - Again, if things change at home, and I think they may a little, I want to talk about what's comfortable for both of us.

    She told me she thought my shaving my legs was a phase, or a sex thing, and that it would pass. I allowed that actually, I wouldn't be sorry to see more of my bodily hair go away. This really bothered her. (I regret saying anything about that.)

    She wished I'd given her more notice - but she knew if I'd said "hon, we need to talk about something serious later," she'd wanted to have done it right then. And I told her I wanted her to have a quiet afternoon, and a day off work the next day, so if she felt really terrible, she had some time to herself. I think she'll need that, too.

    As the implications of all this sank in, I think she became angry about the situation. Not so much angry with me - I think she understands I don't really want this either, I just have it. But the idea of a more feminine me really bothers her right now. She's worried that this will affect the intimate part of our relationship, and be the beginning of the end of our relationship. I told her I worried about these things too, and that I was dedicated to trying to find a way to avoid these problems, because I loved that part of our relationship too, and felt it was extremely important.

    For now I think she's just trying to absorb this and come to terms with it. This is really hard, and she has no desire to see me wearing any feminine article. She understands that I need to explore this, but she doesn't want to see it, at least not now, and possibly not ever.

    I think she's very afraid that we'll reach some impasse though, where we can't reconcile our differences over this, and I'll either cave in to her, and self destruct, or it will be more than she can bear. What do we do in that case? All I could do is tell her that I wanted to avoid that too, and I'd work together with her to keep that from happening.

    So for now, it's Don't Ask, Don't Tell. I told her this was fine, and a pretty normal reaction to terrible news like this. I told her NOT to feel bad about this. Maybe in time she'd change her mind, maybe not, but that I knew she needed time to process this, maybe a lot of time.

    I'm quite worried that she feel isolated now. I think she needs someone to talk with besides me. I suggested a counselor or therapist. She's afraid of telling any of our local friends - that just wouldn't be smart - and she's afraid to talk with anyone in her family, lest they decide I'm a horrible person.

    I know we both want things to work out, and we both want to try to work things out. But I think this is the biggest problem we've ever faced as a couple, and we may not make it. I am by no means certain of this.

    Because I feel I know my wife really, really well, and wonderful, caring, honest, tolerant and accepting as she is - she wants to be married to a masculine man. I may well change into someone she may still like really well, but is unable to be married to.

    I found, by the end of it, that I was wishing I was telling her I had cancer, rather than that I was transgendered. She could've talked to her friends and found more support for that. But no, I told her this, and have introduced her to the isolation I've always known. I hate that she has to go through that.

    I hate this, so much.

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    You did "the next right thing", my friend.
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    I also think you did the right thing. It is hard for someone to get their head around something like this. I mean it is something I have lived with for over 50 years and I have a hard time getting it sometimes. Just don't change anything for a while. Stay the same and do the things you normally do around her for a while and let it sink in.

    But then who am I to give relationship advice. I never have been able to get it right.
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    Congrats, PaulaQ. Let her absorb what you've told her for a month or two. If she hasn't raised the issue after that time, a gentle probe about how she feels about it may be in order.

    In the meantime, it likely isn't a good idea for her to see you dressed. Same goes for removing more body hair or other changes.

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    Paula, I hate this aspect about myself and wish I had just been born genetically female. You are very lucky though! Your wife seems to be very supportive. And the very best thing is that you were openly honest with her and not hiding the feelings you've been supressing. We know there comes a time when the dam will burst and everything comes out. You've also shown that you want to protect her and her feelings, and try to make this as easy as it can be for her. You'll have a lot of respect from all of us here just for that---you're not being selfish, but instead demonstrating your love for her. It may take some time for her to digest all of this, but grant her all the time she needs. It seems like you'll both continue to have a loving relationship and I pray that it be so. I just want to say that I have an ex-wife who cut me loose, and now a second wife who totally loves and accepts me and will allow me to make any changes I need to make. I hope my reality is unlike your's and you and your wife can take each day a step at a time to fully realize how happy you both can be. You've done the right thing with openess and honesty. I pray that through any hurt, you will both find healing. PM me if your wife would like to speak with my angel.

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    My heart understands her struggle. You did the right thing, telling her and being so open. The what if's will drive both of you crazy if you let it. I can't speak for her, or your relationship, because we are all different. But I can speak from a place and a relationship that IS working. It can work, and two peoplle who love each other as much as you two seem to, can make it work, and make it work together. I would be happy to be the person she reaches out to if she needs that. PM me if you want my email.
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    That took a lot of courage. I don't think congratulations are quite right but you did a tough thing and its impressive.

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    Paula, now you CAN move forward. Don't write off anything yet. Just keep talking.

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    Congratulations for opening the conversation. I felt such an incredible sense of relief after I did and no longer had to feel like I was living a lie. Sounds like you're doing the right thing giving her time & space. Hopefully she will come to terms with it.

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    Paula my heart goes out for you and your wife. Sometimes wives can be stronger than we give them credit for, as I hope this will be in your case.
    I've come to the conclusion that it's none of my business what other people's opinion of me is.

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    Paula, this is a very hard thing to do. She is thinking it over now. I truly hope this works out. Let me know if you need to talk.

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    I applaud you for doing this extremely difficult thing, opening up honestly to her. I have read of other cders, whose wives were not too pleased about it at first, but over time, came to accept it, and even enjoy it. But, that is not always the way the story ends. I empathize with you. It will not be very easy for a while, and what you said could happen, may happen. I suffer great anxiety too, and am sorry that i told a number of church friends, who told others, and now i am not so close anymore. I am pretty much of a loner now. Even though i don't dress that often. I hope your wife will be willing to at least check into this site, to learn. One day at a time. Easy does it. Alice

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    YOU ROCK ! ! ! Paula, I hate seeing that you might think you destroyed your marriage. I felt the same way when I came out to my wife. Now, over a year later, its still messy. No sugar coating here. This type of thing is a huge deal and many women can't (won't) handle it or even consider dealing with it. I just want you to know that I feel like you did the right thing by telling her. You will both have good moments and bad moments but overall, I believe you both will be happier people now. Large secrets have a way of destroying beautiful relationships and lies do NOT make for a good marriage in any capacity. It's obvious that you love each other. I'm proud of you! xoxo

    ps...your post gave me chills when I read it and I got all teary eyed.. xoxo

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    Paula, the obvious and safest advice I can give is to take it slow. Your wife has to get used to this. Hopefully she can accept all of this. You might consider over-compensating by bending over backwards to do many things to show your appreciation? I've let my wife take over our finances and "wear the pants" around here! Usually the guy is dominant in a relationship. But there are gals who would love to be in charge! Think about how that might help your relationship. I do almost all the housework around here. Wouldn't your wife love to be releived of those responsibilities? I love taking care of our house knowing I can be dressed knowing I'm the perfect housewife, and I love it because it feels right for me! Your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl Ann Owens View Post
    You might consider over-compensating by bending over backwards to do many things to show your appreciation? I've let my wife take over our finances and "wear the pants" around here! Usually the guy is dominant in a relationship. But there are gals who would love to be in charge!
    This is a good suggestion, but I think it would be wrong in our situation. I think I need a chainsaw and to go clear some trees. She wants a man, and she wants me to wear the pants. I knew this going in to tell her.

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    Way to go, Paula. I hope, given time, there's a clear way forward. I reckon it's better to be straight up about things, but it sucks hurting those we love. Keep demonstrating what she means to you, as much as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaQ View Post
    I'm quite worried that she feel isolated now. I think she needs someone to talk with besides me. I suggested a counselor or therapist. She's afraid of telling any of our local friends - that just wouldn't be smart - and she's afraid to talk with anyone in her family, lest they decide I'm a horrible person.
    That's probably a good thought because you don't want to create a situation where other relationships (family and friends) could be compromised. You know, if we don't fully understand how all of this plays out for us, how can we expect others to know? Those who might not be predisposed to be sympathetic and tolerant may always look at you differently. You'll always be a question mark. Hopefully as you and your wife sort things out, it will be a different story. But, for now, you just don't need the extra complications.

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    In a sense, Paula, I see that as positive - she's perhaps moving forward in her grief.
    I hope things continue to improve as time goes by.

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    I do too Theresa. We'll see how it goes though. Ultimately, my job in the relationship is to be superman, and bulletproof. Damned pink kryptonite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeresaCD View Post
    In a sense, Paula, I see that as positive - she's perhaps moving forward in her grief.
    I hope things continue to improve as time goes by.
    I think so too. Why is she angry? That is the question. Does she have a point? Can you two get past that? Good luck, we're all rooting for both of you. To your wife, if you ever gets to this point, this is hard for him, most of us haven't had a clue how to deal with this until fairly recently, we had no more frame of reference than you. The common instinct is to repress, hide, feel shame. We shouldn't, but that's what society has pushed on us. Sorry if it has hurt you, we didn't want that, but we literally had no way of figuring this out, until the present day. The information and points of view weren't there.
    "Normal is what you get when you average out the weirdness that everybody has." Quote from my SO

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERDRESSER View Post
    I think so too. Why is she angry? That is the question. Does she have a point? Can you two get past that?
    Why angry:

    1. The last few years have been the happiest years of her life. She doesn't want anything to change. She's angry about that.
    2. She feels I've given her an ultimatum - accept this, or divorce. That would end the life she loves. I've made no such ultimatum, but it's what she tells herself.
    3. She wants the man she loves to stay the same. I'm changing - possibly quite a lot.
    4. She wants to grow old here, have grandkids visit here (we don't have any yet), and ultimately die here. Because of this, that is by no means certain.

    I've really made no such demands, I've just said "I can't stop this, I think it will really damage me, I've tried before, and it damaged me both times." I don't really like to say something like that - but I believe it is the truth.

    She doesn't feel deceived - she understands why I had trouble admitting this to myself. She just doesn't want to accept it, at least not yet.

    Look, she likes macho, John Wayne type guys. She was furious with me for a week when I didn't know how to change the headlight in her car. (I'm hopeless at stuff like that - why someone who likes macho men married me is really a mystery to me.)

    And yeah, I think she has every right to be angry. I fully anticipated her anger, and sense of loss over the parts of life that she's loved. I'm hoping we can salvage most of this, but I hate what this is doing to her.

    When does CD start being fun? Because so far - I hate this. Not as much as I hate myself, but it's up there. I just don't seem to be able to stop. Seriously - when does the magical journey of self-discovery and exploration begin? Because so far, this thing has been like a curse all my life.

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    She feels I've given her an ultimatum - accept this, or divorce. (...) I've made no such ultimatum,
    Hmm, it seems to me that you have. "This is who I am and it is no longer possible for me to ignore it" is pretty much the same as "I have come to accept this, and now you must too." If she truly can't accept it then separation seems inevitable. But my gut says you'll stay together.

    Shock, then anger, perfectly natural. The five stages of grief apply here too. Next comes bargaining, or has that already begun?

    I can't tell you how much I admire your courage.
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    No doubt your world is changjng, Paula, hopefully for the better in the end. Love the new avatar, btw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulaQ View Post
    I know we both want things to work out, and we both want to try to work things out. But I think this is the biggest problem we've ever faced as a couple, and we may not make it. I am by no means certain of this.
    My wife and I are right there with you, Paula!

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