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    Question Question about changing into a real woman

    This thread:

    http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...ould-you-do-it

    There are 7 pages already. Many of you said that you would change ONLY if you could be an attractive (or cute, or young, or shapely) woman.

    My question is, assuming that most of you are female-attracted, why would you like to embody someone whom males are specifically attracted to? Why not simply remove your male gender cues and be like an identical sister would be?
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    Why be an ugly old woman if I can be young and cute. I guess we all try to be as presentable as possible.

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    Interesting question. I'm not much for hypotheticals, and don't have much interest in impossible what ifs. But if I must, I'd rather be reasonably attractive...or at least no hideous. After all, I have to see myself in the mirror. I've managed to adjust my reaction to that reality to the point where i think I look ok...a lot like a masculinized version of my mom.

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    am bi and attracted to guys as well as women so if am going to be GG, i'd rather be a cute GG that men find attractive.

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    I would go with the hand I was dealt with Reine.It's really not about looks to me but about who I am as a person and how I relate to others. Many of us have already proven we can be a decent looking gal via makeup and imagination regardless of what we look like when we start. As far as I'm concerned the biggest part of being a woman is caring and sharing and being empathetic. Everything else is a nice to have.
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    Hi Sabrina, thank you. I do understand why CDers who have sex with men would want to be attractive to them. I was curious about the CDers who are female-attracted.
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    These answers may indicate a correlation between fetishistic CDing and autogynephilia. Maybe they'd like to be young and cute because that's what's attractive to them.

    But, what do I know? I'm no shrink. I speak for myself, and if I ever come to transition, I'll be happy just being female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    Hi Sabrina, thank you. I do understand why CDers who have sex with men would want to be attractive to them. I was curious about the CDers who are female-attracted.
    You are welcome but note thqt i like women as well so i'd want to be cute for lesbian women as well.

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    Most of us are pretty lucky in life even if we don't see it. We could have been born extremely poor, we could have been born into an oppresive country and government or religon, we could have been born into a jungle tribe, etc. If we were to throw the dice by being changed into a woman without conditions (and I think a lot of people forget about this), we run a lot of risks. Would anyone want to be a woman in a country or religon where women are treated as property? Would you want to be a woman in an abusive relationship? Would you still want to be a woman if you were dirt poor in some sub tropical country? How about if you were obese? Or had major health problems?

    I didn't participate in the original post but if I had, my answer would have been "No". Women still don't get the respect men do in most situations.

    Of course if I could trade my 70 year old self for a good looking, intelligent, wealthy 24 year old female, I would probably do it but not just to be a female. I would trade to be a good looking, intelligent, wealthy 24 year old male as well.
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    I can see beauty in all women - i would be content to simply remove male gender clues as you suggest Reine (do not care about attracting males)

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    Being genetically male I am attracted to females, therefore if I were to be turned genetically female then logic would dictate that I would be attracted to males, so being young with a nice attractive shapely figure would definitely be an advantage.

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    I didn't post in the thread you mention but it seems to me that a CDer who is female-attracted would want to be changed into a cute attractive woman because if you get to choose what you look like then why would you not want to be cute and attractive? It seems to me that you'd want to be turned into something that you find attractive and like for yourself, rather than doing it for the purpose of attracting men. It's just the same as women who say they dress the way they do for themselves, not because of men. IMHO most CDers dress for themselves too and it's rarely got anything to do with attracting males.
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    I would like world peace, love and friendship for all, save the whales and ... a beach where creepy guys won't come and stare at me in my bikini.

    I agree Reine I always like the caveats people add to their posts. Maybe the OP should have read "If you could be an average woman of attractiveness and health and intelligence...would you?" But that still does not address who they would be attracted to. Logically if the wish came true, they would be attracted to men just as the average women would be. However in out fairytale world, the switch would allow them to keep the things they want to keep (like being attracted to women, their high paying job, the ability to go fishing with the guy and stick their hand down the front of their shorts while watching football) AND be the last years Miss Universe who is lesbian
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    To everyone, thank you for your answers!


    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrina133 View Post
    You are welcome but note thqt i like women as well so i'd want to be cute for lesbian women as well.
    ... except that lesbians don't like their women to have that one extra thing that GGs don't have. That's why they're lesbian.

    It's a pretty safe bet that the vast majority of the female-attracted CDers here are with hetero GGs, who are not sexually attracted to women, not even cute, curvy, or younger women.
    Last edited by ReineD; 06-08-2013 at 11:47 AM.
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    This is one of my biggest problems... Sure I would love to be a beautiful woman, but I think I would rather have a beautiful woman, which cant really both happen too well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    I do understand why CDers who have sex with men would want to be attractive to them. I was curious about the CDers who are female-attracted.
    I have put considerable effort into weight loss and finding the right body shaping gear and clothes that allow me to present as a female in a way that appeals to me as a male. My ideal is my first wife's athletic body shape when in her twenties. Quite an ask for a 62 year old but I'm told I do well.

    The question I think you are posing is why a male who is attracted to females wants to look and dress as a female in a way that attracts males. I like the image I portray and from comments at the casino last week on the night of a big local football match so do other men. (On reflection I shouldn't have worn a skirt that was 8 inches above my knee that night.)

    Here's the rub though. I have absolutely no interest in being with a man and the attention I received was scary. Yet the mirror reflects my ideal female shape. Pity about the face though.

    I can see why the confusion - it is all about whose perspective.
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    Hi Reine

    I didn’t respond to that thread but I’ll give you my take on your question; but keep in mind that this is coming from someone who’ll be turning 70 in a couple months so we are really in the hypothetical zone. I have discussed something like this with my Therapist, not instantly becoming female but what my desires would be if it were possible for me to transition. My thoughts were that if I was able to transition I would want it to be complete – HRT & SRS – and while I am currently heterosexual and have no desire to have any kind of relationship with a male I am quite sure that as a woman I would want to experience and enjoy having sex with men.
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    Kind of a hard one. On one hand I think I would be O.K. in a female version of me - for myself. But I do understand that others, for the most part, judge you by your looks first. So of course I would want to be attractive for that reason. But then, I would not want someone that shallow as a partner. Then again, if I remained a female version of myself I would not want the person that was attracted to me then either. I would want someone with better taste.

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    As a heterosexual gender tourist (I do not apply the term transgender to myself) I present as a woman to the world a couple of times a month. I do it to look good to me and to women in women's clothes, looking as good as I can and acting as well as I can. In many years I have never attracted male attention nor would want to - I do not have to put any effort into avoiding it - possibly I am too old anyway. I absolutely love getting feedback on how I look (it is generally 80-90% favourable and the remainder takes the form of helpful suggestions) - and ALL of this comes from women. When I was out on Tuesday, dressed rather nicely IMHO, I got zero feedback and it took some pleasure out of the day, but I dealt mainly with young women I had not met before who were trying a bit too hard to act normal with the man in the dress (dress shops, nail salon, dressmaker, supermarket). The only male I interacted with was a barman, and usually these guys either act completely neutrally or (as in this case) try to deal with the guy dressed as a woman as quickly as possible.

    I am lucky that I am slim with good legs so I can claim to look good in a skirt or dress - and yes - it needs a bust to look as good as it can. Women are nice enough to say they envy my legs and my figure (but mainly the legs). So I don't need to long to change into an attractive woman - I can just put on a nice outfit and get all I need from that - to a standard of appearance that is good enough for my purposes.

    I can see why women ask this question, but it really is a non-issue - it might be different for younger cross-dressers, some of whom might even pass. In short, even the idea of attracting men does not enter my head.

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    I can only speak for myself, Reine. And, I don't even think of myself as a trans! So, I certainly can't speak for anyone that may feel they r TS.

    I only dress because I CAN appear to be a young, attractive female at age 60+. If I found my image to be unattractive, as I once did when I first began dressing, I doubt I would have continued to dress. Nor, would I now.

    Here's the part u MAY relate to. After spending 60+ years as a plain looking man, with no head turning features, I find being an attractive female very exciting! I mainly dress for myself. The more attractive Sherry appears, the more I enjoy my dressing experience.

    I'm straight, so what about all the guys that r attracted to Sherry? My case may be a bit different than others because I don't attract many men when I'm out dressed. But, I get lots of attention online. I enjoy it when other men reaffirm that the images I create r pretty and sexy! And, if they become a nuisance I simply block them!

    Don't EVER underestimate dresser's desire to have their fem looks validated!
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    Exactly What I always thought Reine ,,, Tell me something ? If these people were attractive an could wear all the stuff they always dreamed of would they then be just like all the other girls that wear Mini Skirts an Super high heels an Real short shorts an skimpy little tops out in public an the LOOK at you like a Pervert when you look at them ? An have all the men after them an chasing them wanting something special from them ,, So why would you want to attract MEN an then just push them away ? Kind of a tease if you ask me ,,, Like jumping in the pool an Bitching about being Wet ?

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    I'll be perfectly happy if I end up as an average looking woman. I don't intend to keep the one extra bit that lesbians aren't interested in. I never intended to trade on my looks. I expect I'll be a lesbian, but I have no illusions about great acceptance from the lesbian community - mostly they don't like us.

    So I expect I'll be alone.

    Hope this helps.

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    Reine,

    I didn't comment in the original thread .... My answer to your question ( mine only) would go like this.. If I was born and raised as a genetic female ( all are attractive) it would have been reversed...I would secretly dress up as an ugly boy..Just my luck
    I do not!! Claim to be an expert on any topic, when I post a new thread or reply on any thread my imput is strickly that of a crossdresser. Not to offend Gay people , Transexuals or any other life style, I am only commenting on one of my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbra P View Post
    ................ I am currently heterosexual and have no desire to have any kind of relationship with a male I am quite sure that as a woman I would want to experience and enjoy having sex with men.
    I can understand that. If I had female parts I would want to use them as they were intended to be used. On the other hand, if lightning hit me and I was suddenly turned into a woman with female parts, I would stay faithfull to my wife and forego the experience.
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