Do you want to know if you are a transvestic fetishists?

**Lucy_Bella** · 06-18-2013, 03:55 AM

Some of you may already know what this is while others may care less.. I have been seeing several new post on the main MTF forum with members suggesting ( it's their words not mine) they have no/zero " gender identities" .. They simply do not feel like a girl..

Transvestic fetishists explained :

Having thoughts of transiting your sex opposite of what you was born as in a past phase is not excluded.. It is a normal thought for some Cross-Dresser but for different reasons ..The reason why a transvestic fetishists person but not all under the T,G, umbrella would have such thoughts would simply be because a transvestic fetishists can suffer from Anatomic autogynephilia: (arousal to the fantasy of having a normative woman's body, or parts of one..) Transitioning is a temporary feeling and is never acted upon..

Being a transvestic fetishists DOES NOT make you a " Trans-Gender ".(because it is considered to be a paraphilia rather than gender identification).. Even though Transvestite or the meaning of one can be attributed to the T.G. umbrella by this definition only " the wearing of clothing or behaviour of the opposite sex from natural birth.." It doesn't just separate the two meanings because I have to assume wearing clothing is a behaviour?

As a transvestic fetishists you do not have a "Gender Identity Disorder" you just dress for the fetish purpose .. Transvestic fetishists can also go through similar phases that T.S.'s and T.G.s go through with their dressing progression but can not be mistaken for the same reasons..Unlike some T.G.'s and *all* T.S's ( some T.G.s do find sexual gratification in cross-dressing at times )"Sexual gratification" is the drive that makes the progression for transvestic fetishists ..We may assume that sexual gratification has left us but in studies it has been proven that in time, sexual gratification decreases and becomes an antidote to anxiety or depression or contributes to a sense of peace and calm.. But it is still there sometimes through small un-noticed forms of arousal ..

The above were things I have learned through a combination of different outlets through the internet below this I will share studies done by Dr. Blanchard in 1991 on how he defined a fetishism relating to cross-dressing.

Fetishism As in Blanchard (1991), a patient was classiﬁed
as fetishistic if he responded positively to the single questionnaire item, ‘‘Do you think that certain inanimate objects
(velvet, silk, leather, rubber, shoes, female underwear, etc.)
have a stronger sexual attraction for you than for most other
people?’’

Unless asked asked a civil question for concerned people about this subject I will not respond to any arguments about the subject.. I only posted this thread for hopes that maybe some will have a better understanding ..I DO NOT feel that because I have called attention to this subject that falling under this subject makes me or others who do, any better or worse in anyway..

Thank you for reading..

**Beverley Sims** · 06-18-2013, 05:15 AM

I think this has been discussed before.
To answer the question.....

I don't think so.

**Lucy_Bella** · 06-18-2013, 05:44 AM

No this has not been discussed as long as I have been a member of this site.. But it has been argued as a false claim in other un related post..

I opened this thread for people who may have never tied their dressing to this such as myself to possibly get a better understanding of themselves.. This thread is an attempt for a real discussion not one for splitting hairs..

**Jackie7** · 06-18-2013, 06:22 AM

I have not re-read Blanchard lately but I do recall feeling a condescending judgement in his definition, as in "...merely a transvestic fetishist."
To me it is hair splitting and not helpful, because I do not feel the same way all the time. Sometimes I feel entirely content as a cross-dressing man and have no interest in transitioning, other times I feel the way others here report as the wrong gender in the wrong body. These various states of being shift and change. So it's all whatever, whatever. I do know that my personality softens when I dress and this softening carries over when I am entirely guy and not dressing at all.

**sandra-leigh** · 06-18-2013, 07:39 AM

That distinguishing question does not distinguish at all. "A stronger sexual attraction" doesn't mean much. If, for example, I had had a partner who sexually teased me using a feather, then I would have a stronger association between feathers and sexual attraction than "most other people", but that is a terribly long way from the standard of "fetish" which requires a strong association, especially one in which the item turns out to be necessary (or nearly so) for sexual performance. Furthermore, the question as phrased has no time connection -- so if I had made an association with (say) Bick Pens because the cute 2rd grade girl use to chew on them, and I did not get into crossdressing until I was (say) 16, then the question as phrased would flag me even though the Bick Pens association was quite unconnected.

I have no good information on how the "average person" feels about the sorts of items sold in "adult stores". If I were to guess that (say) 2/3 of adults wouldn't use such things and that 1/3 would, then should I say that the "average person" has no interest (since less than 50% do), or should I say that the "average person" is interested in 1/3 of an item (1 person in 3), or.. what?

**Erica2Sweet** · 06-18-2013, 08:39 AM

An interesting question along the same lines is: "How does one know he does or does not feel like a woman when he has not ever actually been a woman to know what being a woman actually feels like?"...

We who play out this gender bending thing we do often act on assumptions and also often adhere to the idea that "the grass is greener on the other side" when processing our goals in terms of gender presentation and identity. The truth is that often the assumptions we act upon are totally without basis in reality. It's no one's fault really, we just often do the best we can with the tools we have.

**Ressie** · 06-18-2013, 09:29 AM

I've always had a sexual response to lingerie and other fem items. But I've also wished I had been born female at times. We're all unique aren't we?

**Lucy_Bella** · 06-18-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jackie7

I have not re-read Blanchard lately but I do recall feeling a condescending judgement in his definition, as in "...merely a transvestic fetishist."

The report was revised in 2008..Dr. Blanchard coined the Phrase the condition has become better known and has grown quite popular on the net.

Originally Posted by Erica2Sweet

An interesting question along the same lines is: "How does one know he does or does not feel like a woman when he has not ever actually been a woman to know what being a woman actually feels like?"...

we just often do the best we can with the tools we have.

I guess that would be a great question to ask a T.G. someone who feels they have a gender disorder or better yet a T.S. someone who feels they was born the wrong sex..How do they know?

**Lorileah** · 06-18-2013, 12:35 PM

Dakota tribal wisdom says that when you discover you're riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. How many ways can the label argument be presented?

**Lucy_Bella** · 06-18-2013, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Lorileah

Dakota tribal wisdom says that when you discover you're riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. How many ways can the label argument be presented?