Dear Abby,
I recently joined a Cross Dressing website which is really cool and supportive. Although I have heard some of the members mention the sexual aspect of their desire to cross dress, I have yet to stumble upon a thread devoted entirely to the topic. Maybe there is one in the archives I just haven't read, or maybe it just isn't a common topic to discuss. I sure would like to hear the opinions of some like-minded CDs.
Sincerely,
My Arrows Are Made of Desire
We r referred to here as, "fetish CDs, Taylor.
We have to walk on eggs discussing CD sex here in the regular forum. I suggest u visit the "GM's Only" forum for more frank comments!
U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.
Challenge yourself and pursue your passions! When your life clock runs out, you'll have few or NO REGRETS!
CDing can encompasses some of the stimuli that arouse the male species if not all of them. Therefore, it is a natural response. Unfortunately, it sends one down a rabbit hole and makes if difficult to fully enjoy the experience.
It's Evolution 101 and nothing more. Porn, Men's magazines and women's clothing items can and DO, ALL serve the same purpose. Push men's visual button. The same button that will allow him to "fullfill" his destiny. His most basic programming to impregnate as many females as possible. Of course, just because a female is not handy, does not mean he can't practice having "one". Research has shown that O's are good for us with or w/o a partner.
Many/most of the "regulars" here don't like to discuss it/have moved on as they have gotten older.
Really? Are we not allowed to have an open discussion in the MTF thread?Originally Posted by docrobbysherry
Oh wow, now my interest is really peaked!
Is there really a label for CDs with this type of interest? Is it considered some type of sub-category?
I didn't realize there were such sharp lines of demarcation between us gals. I always thought we were more similar than different.
Last edited by Taylor Ray; 08-14-2013 at 09:27 AM.
You know darn well what is allowed and not allowed here and if this thread is just to start a fight it won't be allowed very long either. I won't put up with another "us" vs "them" thread. Talk about egg shells, this is already cracked
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Impregnating as many women as possible was never in my "program". The possibility of impregnating even one frightened me until I was in my 40's. Which doesn't mean I wasn't interested in sex.But when I rate the relative levels of "compulsion" of sex vs "dressing up" (really, becoming transgender), the compulsion towards sex was not as strong for me as becoming transgender proved to be.
My therapist told me that it is normal for cross dressers to feel sexually excited while dressed.
Yes you have heard right, just search a little and you will find what you seek.
Work on your elegance,
and beauty will follow.
I agree with Sandra Leigh. Conquest of as many females as necessary was as far from my wants and desires as you can get. I think many guys BRAG about it but few actually are interested or capable. As far as the attraction to dressing, for me it is mostly about the soft and fluid movement for the clothes. (ie the one in my avatar) I also love the 40-50s Hollywood movies with dancing as the women were so elegant, demure, uber feminine and the clothes simply flowed around them.
Yes, as I grew up there WAS a bit of a sexual component and with my wife, it was incredible.
The day I stop thinking about it, is the day they can nail the lid on my box
Rebecca
If you read the initial post you can tell this thread was started with a very serious and sincere inquiry. Not sure what the talk about starting fights and us versus them is about. Obviously the topic has some history to it and hits a nerve for some.
Which yes, I find to be interesting. Not to fan the flames of a debate, but because topics that touch nerves can be very educational and informative.
Can anyone tell me what the "GM Only" forum is about?
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Taylor
Go to the GM forum and read the description. Re-post your question there for a little more open discussion.
Ellie
I never new how masculine I was until I tried to be a woman
Still can't find a description of the forum anywhere on this site. It just says "Genetic Males"
I know some people in the local kink community, especially organizers of some of the groups. I have been quietly invited to join some of the groups -- poly, swingers, subs -- each time by someone who knew that I am in a relationship and knew that the normal rules are that couples must both join; they thought enough of me that they would have waived those rules. But each time, I turned down the opportunity. Because although sex is certainly not without its rewards, the pull of love and intimacy is much much stronger for me.
I'm not sure the sexual component has to be manifested as an extension of some sort of "male inclination". Nor does it have to manifest as sex per se. I mean, couldn't dressing be an expression of a sexual impulse that is transformed into a different behavior?
Not sure I follow the argument that it is some how a base "male impulse" of some sort. I feel that dressing can be very sublimated and artistic.
Last edited by Taylor Ray; 08-14-2013 at 07:46 PM.
Taylor ;
There are plenty of threads that discuss what you are interested in. The moderators do a great job of keeping this board on the PG aspect of Gender Identity, it's what gives this site credibility with wives,girlfriends,spouses and SO's . If you think about it, that discretion on the part of the moderators is what keeps our better halves reading and finding hope in what some see as a difficult situation.
Thanks Kelly!
Can you direct me to the appropriate thread? Is it the GM thread? And what is the description of that thread?
I totally respect the mods keeping the site functioning; just need more info.
There is, "Transvestic Fetishists", or TVFs.
Actually, Vickie, that is a psychiatric diagnosis, which has nothing to do with the question I was asking. I was wondering if there was a label or category amongst fellow cross dressers, like in the context of this site.
Taylor, from what I have gathered over the years reading posts here there is a bit of a sliding scale of motivations for dressing. The motivations and categories are rather confusing even for people taking part because they can change according to mood. But I think what you are looking for is the term "fetishistic" which is for example, when someone is turned on by dressing and that is the actual reason for doing it. It is 'forbidden' and hugely exciting. However, I think this is a basic starting point for most people's experiences even though they may then develop a different relationship to dressing which is more to do with a feeling of emotional calm and balance and less to do with the initial excitement. They actually feel comfortable dressed in a particular way, which is often more realistic and natural than the fetish side.
The fetishistic side of things is the desire to dress in 'classic' female sexually exciting (to the male) clothing. Stockings, nurses outfit, French maid etc.
Thanks for your very thoughtful and insightful reply, Julie. My initial experiences of cross dressing occurred when I was around 12 and there was a huge sexual component. As I get older I find that I enjoy being dressed full time when I am at home. Yes, it is very comforting and calming and I love the way I feel when dressed.
I wonder if the sexual component is still present but in a more sublimated form. Technically speaking, there could still be a fetishistic component which is the foundation of my dressing, but it doesn't manifest in an obvious fetishistic way (like dressing for the purpose of sexual gratification).
Pavlov's dogs and Pavlov's whistle.
MOST CDers and their clothing.
The obvious conclusion is inescapable for those that [perhaps after X number of years] are just fine with JUST "the whistle".
Come on... GM...Go to the GM forum and read the description
Get it now??
And actually it doesn't just say genetic males... it says: -
GM Forum (Genetic Males - Invitation Only)
I take it you are a genetic male?? or are you like me.. a dolpin
It's also in the rules how to join, there are links on the GM forum that says 'read this announcement' etc... it's not rocket science
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Thanks for reiterating the obvious!
No, I was wondering how a thread called "Genetic Males" could possibly be related to my original question.
It must be because talking about sexuality and cross dressing is only permitted amongst genetic males, which, as a new member, I was not aware of.
Not the most sophisticated or complex view on sexuality. In my view human beings are able to experience sexual energy in a more holistic way. There are entire schools of practical philosophy dedicated to utilizing and transforming sexual energy.
Speaking of sexuality in terms of Pavlov reduces the instinct to its most base and primitive manifestation.
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