What makes a spouse understandin?

[Melissa in SE Tn]

Ok, after reading todays posts by Leigh , Mikell & Carla, this shadow cder needs to know from those with accepting wives : What is it about your wife that has made acceptance possible? What is it about her soul, her heart , her mind , etc . that makes her accepting as oppossed to declaring a DADT or warring existence ?

[Connie.Marie]

Melissa,
We probably ought to ask the gg's who are on here too.
THEY would have an even better perspective.

Great question.
Hugs, Connie Marie

[Beverley Sims]

Probably the love of her man and the fact that he is still one under the exterior portrayed.
I guard and protect my wife, showing her consideration and respect in everything we do in our lives.
I value her judgment and family values.
She is also my best friend.
We reinforce our relationship by saying it is just the two of us.
It will always be that way through thick and thin.

[Laura912]

Beverly probably gave one of the better answers but, just as wives are humans with their own characteristics, the reasons for acceptances will be varied. Mine simply understands that it is not a choice and to help both of us, we do joke about it. For example, we are going to supper with some friends. She asked me what I was going to wear. When I looked at her with a raised eyebrow, she broke out laughing, knowing that our friends do not have a clue about Laura and what an interesting evening it would make. The honesty in the relationship goes a long way.

[Melissa in SE Tn]

Connie, you are correct . This question is open to any gg that can help educate us. Peace to all , melissa

[Jenniferathome]

Melissa, I'll throw this in for my wife: you are what you are.

[Requal Jo]

My wife is accepting because I am open and honest with my dressing. I chose not to hide anything from her. While she remains somewhat apprehensive with my behaviour, by making small changes when she is comfortable time is lifting the apprehension.

[kimdl93]

First of all an open mind, unrestrained by archaic and narrow minded dogma. Upbringing contributes to this too, but I suspect some people are hard wired to be more flexible and less judgmental. I don't think it's very easy, in fact seldom possible to change the way people reaction to the new, unfamiliar or unconventional. Second, I think the depth and strength of the relationship is important. If it's a real partnership and mutually supportive and each partner has demonstrated that they are willing to accept each other's uniqueness and idiosyncrasies, then gender variations may be easier to accept. And finally, being capable of trusting one another.

[Marsha Marsh]

Everything Beverly said is right. As for me, I have know clue why she is so accepting. I thank God that she is and I would do anything for her. The one thing that has happened with us is that we have actually grown closer than I ever could have imagined since she found out. Still a lot of work to do on my part to make her feel as secure in our relationship as possible.

[Jackie7]

My wife says that when we first met - I was out as a crossdresser and her girlfriends were warning her to be wary - she was having fun with me and enjoying my attention and my perspective, so she looked deep into herself to check whether it was troubling to her (versus to anybody else), and she found it was not. That simple.

[Andrea Renea]

My wife is open minded, didn't think she would be but she surprised me. I had to tell her
after 15 years of marriage. Couldn't keep it a secret any longer. That was 16 years ago.
Her only comment was "why didn't you tell me sooner"

Her biggest concern still is someone near home seeing and recognizing me in public.
She went out with me in Biloxi MS. We walk through the hotel/casino to get
something to eat.

[Alice B]

For my wife is is that we have a strong,loving relationship and that I assured her it has nothing to do with her or our relationship. It is just something I need to do. I first did a lot of on line research before I even started, printed out everything that I felt was applicable to me and then gave the material for my wife to discuss. It started as a limited dadt, but quickly grew into total acceptance, with the understanding that she was not required to participate unless she wanted to. Key is trust, openness, and no secrets.

[Jaylyn]

Only one thing comes to my mind and I'm not speaking for my wife but from me observing my wife. We believe there are three things involved in being a married Christian couple... Don't want to offend any one just my opinion. These are faith, hope and Love. And as Alan Jackson says in his song (straight from the Good Book) the greatest of these are LOVE. My wife accepts me and all my crazy actions because she loves me. I accept her and all her crazy actions because I love her. If we all had this attitude about every one then life would be so simple. Religion, Races of humanity, poor the rich, homeless and etc. then life would be so much more and we would be forgiving of people with peculiarities. That means who would care that we wore a dress or that someone is interested in TS or on and on. Love for all mankind is the answer to our question. It just usually happens that as preachers say spouse should have no greater love than for their spouse. I have found by being the man I was born to and doing my job there first my wife is then very supportive of my CD ing. I'm not a preacher just what I have observed in my 64 plus years of living. True love accepts me, and also true love demands I accept them.

[ClaireClark]

Remember, you have known since 4, 5, 6 (whatever) that you are different. When you tell your wife, she hasn't had the 20, 30, 40 years of coming to terms with it that you have had. Like a steam iron hitting her face as in a Tom and Jerry cartoon. It is tough on her.

Claire x

[Nadine Spirit]

Everybody is different. All I know is my own story.

My wife and I have been together since 15 and CDing was not any part of my life, at least knowing it as cross dressing, before then. But along the way when it occurred to me to try on women's panties, I told her and then did it. When it occurred to me to put on a bra, I told her and then did it. When it occurred to me to put on women's clothes, I told her and then did it. Everything thing that I have thought that I might want to try, I told her first and then did it second.

Many things she has been fine with, but many things she has not been okay with. Dressing in some women's clothes was fine, dressing fully with wig and makeup, a bit concerning. Dressing at home, she was fine with, going into public, not so much. Doing some things, not a problem; slowly progressing, kind of concerning. Being a cross dresser, okay with; possibly being more than that, frightening.

Openness, honesty, communication, these have all helped. It has generally not been what I would have considered to be easy. Our relationship is the single hardest thing I have ever worked on, but it also the best.

[RobinCA]

I'm especially lucky in the fact that my wife of ten years is turned on by it. She has her limits though, such as me shaving off my mustache. It's kind of a bummer in that I can't go totally fem in the face, but I am extremely happy and lucky that she is so accepting of everything else. Wives an significant others all have their limits. The trick is to be open minded to those limitations and communication is vital.

[Rachelakld]

The fact that I'm still the man in the family, I can still do all the man things, but she like the compassion and empathy of another girl if she needs that

[Marcelle]

Hi Melissa,

So I asked my wife the exact same question a few week ago (during one of our weekly chats on all things CDing) . . . Question: "How can you be so understanding as I explore Isha more openly in the world" Response: "Because I married you not Isha and she is only a façade you put on, the real you is still there"

When I asked if she could elaborate on this, she indicated that sure I took 20 plus years to tell her but then again I wasn't out killing people or having an affair and what I did in private was not harming her. She also realized this is not going away and acceptance from her has only helped me to accept who I am and that has made me a better/happier person and in return made her happier.

Hugs

Isha

[PaulaQ]

I'd say a number of things - but the primary thing is that it's all stuff within your spouse:
1. Her comfort with her own gender / sexuality
2. Her views of masculinity / femininity / gender roles
3. If she has some gender variance herself, even a bit, and is comfortable with it, that helps quite a bit.
4. Bisexual women seem to deal with this easier
5. Lack of very dogmatic religious views that declare such behavior as a perversion
6. Her ability to forgive your deception

External stuff like how solid the marriage is, and whether or not you told her up front before marriage also matter, but in my opinion, it's mostly her. (Telling her up front is huge, actually.)

[chrissy111]

My wife has always said that it's just another part of me, and she loves me. All of me!!!

[Rebecca Star]

Asking what makes some women accept their SO and their Cding or other TG related subjects, as apposed to females who don't... Well, it's like trying to explain what a bright, colourful and non tangible rainbow is to a person without sight. You can't!

Melissa, I'll throw this in for my wife: you are what you are.

Agreed.

Though if I had to add one defining personality trait, found in every woman I've known who accepts my CDing (platonic or other), it's the ability to accept people for who they are and the many different pages found between the covers of these books

[t-girlxsophie]

In my case,my wife knew from the start,as we met online which was a major plus point,where she embraced my femme side from then,She has been hurt (physically and mentally) in the past by men Inc her ex husband.She knows I would never hurt her and she has always said I am the same person that she fell in love with,and she loves both sides of me

Sophie

[Rachel Morley]

Well, my wife said in this old thread that for her a lot of it may have to do with the fact that she is a very empathetic and compassionate person. She finds it easy to see things from other people’s perspectives, to put herself in their shoes.

So when she first discovered crossdressing, she tried her best to understand. Even though she was initially shocked, she wanted to know more. My wife says if you love someone, why wouldn’t you at least try to understand what makes them tick?

[devida]

My wife was always a bit more masculine than I was and I was always a bit more feminine than she was. She encouraged me to wear anything I liked as long as she agreed it was stylish. It never mattered whether it was gendered male or female. It just mattered if she thought I looked good in it. When I got very sick a few years ago she suggested and bought for me women's compression clothing to help my blood flow. I always ask her before I buy anything and I always check with her that whatever I'm doing in terms of makeup, clothes, panties, bras, dresses or skirts, she likes. I modify what I do all the time according to what she says looks good. She's the expert, after all. I mean, she's the one who sees me all the time so it's important to me that she thinks that she likes the way I look in a black lace nightie. I only see myself in the mirror when I pass one! But she always knew I was queerer than I would admit and, you know, we're all a lot nicer when we dress a bit. It's so much harder to be a male jerk on a power trip when you're wearing a bra and panties. Probably not impossible if your jerk quotient is really high, but difficult! She tends to minimize my cross dressing but this is really because she just doesn't think it's as big a thing as I sometimes do. I think she's right.

[Cheryl T]

In a word... love.


If we didn't share the deep love that we have she would have been much less accepting. Thanks to that love she was willing to try to understand, allow me space to be me and give it time to see how it went without prejudging.