Did Women Cause Us To Start Crossdressing?

[Christen]

I grew up with two older sisters before any boys entered the family, my Mum loved me, so did my Dad. Dad did have a work accident that crushed his knee, I think that stopped him playing with me as much as he'd have liked to. But I don't think any of that had an influence on my envy of girls and eventually, if you call eventually, 6 years old, crossdressing or desiring to be a girl. I'm firmly in the 'it's genetics' camp. Oh, yes, I wonder how women's thinking can be so different, but no more than I wonder about why all people think differently. It's not a gender thing, thinking.

Men's clothes are drab and rough and do very little to make a man desirable, on the other hand a woman's presentation and clothing, appearance is just the opposite.

And sorry, I'm sending you a subscription to a men's magazine, Esquire, just for the fashion section. And I'm sure I'm not the only guy (oops, cat's out of the bag) who thought Daniel Craig in Casino Royale was smoking hot, in an appropriate way, of course.

Christen x

[Tinkerbell-GG]

But men ARE desirable just as they are ... to women. Women aren't turned on by other women, no matter how desirable these other women are to men. Honestly, if a man truly wants to be sexually desirable to women, then he will try to look as masculine as he can.

Reine, you probably just summed up the conundrum of CD with this comment! How often do we read here of men who feel 'drab' as a male, men's clothes are dull, they only feel attractive when dressed as a female, then inexplicably lamenting why no straight GG wants them like this. Of course they don't! Yet, still they seem perplexed, while we're perplexed they don't understand what everyone else understands without issue.

Perhaps this is the genetics everyone speaks of here? For there's obviously not going to be a gene for wearing skirts and make-up - that's absurd. But there might be a gene that messes up how a man presents himself. If the men here genuinely think they look better as women (even if they clearly don't) then this must be something their brain is telling them. Women had nothing to do with this, other than unwittingly providing half the genetics.

Either way, it's not our fault. I'm laying the blame firmly on the Y chromosome

[Bima]

As a baby, I often sat in my mother's lap, leaning my short back against her tummy, my short stubby legs pointing straight out, and what did I see.

As I looked down, I would have seen a black pencil skirt, tan pantyhose, high heels, and when the arms around me moved, they were clad in white satin sleeves, terminating in slender hands with red painted nails. Not that strange I started to cross-dress when this became the first view and image of myself. ;-)

Just kidding a bit, of course, but who knows if early on imprinting like this may leave effects that are for life?

Ok, but a note on the more serious side.

In the first post of the thread, it was suggested that “For example if you were the youngest of four and your three older sisters were very pretty and well built with colorful sexy lingerie laying around all the time would this cause you to be drawn to being like them and had to try on their undies to see what it felt like and it was transforming you to be like them?”

This is kind of an “ok” scientific hypothesis, since it can be tested and falsified (with regards to sisters, order of siblings, and sexy lingerie). It is sufficient to find one, and only one, mtf crossdresser where the hypothesis does not apply. I think the thread gives several such examples. In addition, I did not have any other women around me, apart from my mum, which therefore points in the same direction. (Also, not every mtf CD has sexy lingerie as the favorite garment, or the first item they ever tried. Some do, some don’t. And I know, I didn’t)

However, women are of course involved somehow for MtF CDing. If no women were around, there would be no point (or phenomena) of crossdressing. So in that sense, “women did cause us to start CDing”. It is kind of self fulfilling, and undeniable.

Does the presence of many sisters, and a lot of female clothing spread around, in the house has an impact for MtF CDers. I think for any young boy with a CD tendency, this give ample of opportunities to start early on. So, indirectly it will have an effect, but it can not necessarily be concluded to be the cause.

Nevertheless, the question why CD exists is interesting. I have no answer why, but speculating is always fun. :-)

Perhaps infant's inert, inherited, and genetically predisposed ability of mimicking other humans, for learning how to be a human, is at play?

Bima