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    Unhappy Pulled over en femme!

    Last week while driving home, I inadvertently ran a stop sign. A state trooper happened to pull me over. On this occasion I was fully dressed with a fashionable long skirt, linen blouse, wedges, wig, makeup, the whole nine yards. When I gave the trooper my license and insurance, he looked at it, then at me and said "this is a male's license". I have always heard honesty is the best policy when dealing with law enforcement so I told him the truth, I'm a crossdresser. I wasn't really nervous at the time. It then began to get weird. The trooper stated he thought he smelled marijuana in the car and asked if I had been drinking. I told him I do not smoke at all nor had I had anything to drink at all that day. He asked me to come back to his vehicle while he looked up my license, which I did. There were further questions including, did I have anything in the car I shouldn't have, where had I been, where was I going to, where I worked, if I had any drugs or alcohol in the car. I did tell him I am an RN and don't drive after drinking or use marijuana as I would risk losing my license. During the whole proceeding I felt I was being singled out for the way I was dressed. When he could not find any further reason to detain me, the trooper gave me a citation and I was on my way. It was probably one of the strangest experiences I have had in quite a while.

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    I'd take that as one heck of a compliment that he took you for a woman! Oh, that other stuff sucks, but I'm sure they see the worst of our world daily, so the questions seem pretty normal. Honesty and respect with the law usually turns out for the best other than the ticket.

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    I think you did well and remember that "it isn't a big deal unless you make it one"..I have been pulled over a bunch of times and my DL has Rogina's pic on it...

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    What did his name tag say, "Trooper McCreepy?"
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    I was stopped a few years ago with a tail light out when out enfemme. He did come back to my car after running my license and did about 3 double takes looking at my license and back to me. He was professional through the entire process and gave me a warning ticket to have the tail light fixed.
    It seems to me the guy that pulled you over was looking for some reason to give you a hard time.

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    I've never been pulled over while en Femme, however, I was pulled over a couple of weeks ago and it was the first time since I got my Carry permit and I was carrying. Very nervous when I handed over my DL and carry permit but he was cool about it, just asked if I was carrying and then where.

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    In Australia you can request a GLLO officer if you feel you are not being treated fairly, to be honest I am not sure how well this works as I have never had to do it because whilst they may not have exactly been impressed with a trans driver they have always been sufficiently respectful and polite.

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    Krisi, suggesting the police are on your side is a bit of a misnomer. They do not know you. They do not know your intentions, what you are capable of, what you will or won't do or what evils you do or do not subscribe to. Because of that, they will treat you like they treat all the other criminals and unsafe drivers, and therefor they will not treat you as though you are on their side. They most certainly will not treat you as though they are on yours. You are a statistic to them. A ticket or citizen contact statistic. But also a statistic that harms police. A statistic they have driven into their minds during training that is capable of doing unspeakable harm to them and turning them into a different sort of statistic if they let their guard down.

    Do you know who else allows them to search their cars? People with guns or dope. They say yes to the request hoping the nice officer will just go away since it looks like they've nothing to hide. Their cars are summarily tossed, personal items rifled through, and detained even longer. I've even seen some troopers pull out tool kits and remove seats and panels. Of course they aren't obligated to put them the way they were. So feel free to give them permission to search as a former police officer, I've no intention of doing it. That alone should tell you something. If they think they can make a case against me, then fine, they are going to have to work for it. I will not make it easy for them. Especially considering that I do not do anything illegal. If they say they smell an odor associated with drugs or an alcoholic beverage, I know they are making it up with hopes of getting into my car. If they get a dog to alert, they will find nothing and have a negative alert they will have to explain on their K9s log sheet.

    Be cooperative, be understanding, be conversational. Know your rights as to what questions you have to answer. If you feel comfortable, answer them. But draw the line if they ask to search. If you know you've done no wrong, roll with it. Odds are, they will back down. Worse case, they call a dog. Worst case, and these happen less than people think; they will fake a case against you. There are simply too many good cases to be made for them to put in the time and effort to fake a case.
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    So you got pulled over by a state trooper who obviously found you attractive and needed a hit and possibly a drink. Was planning on searching your car for some spare panties and asked you everything he legally could but whimped out on asking for your number.

    His loss really lol

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    That would have been unnerving, particularly when he began with the questions and the license check. Glad you came out of it unscathed other than the citation.
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    Perhaps this is the first crossdresser this trouper ever pulled over. Did you have to stand outside while he checked you license or did he let you sit in his car?

    You can't blame the police for being extra careful these days with some folks advocating shooting them. And actually doing it.

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    One reason why, whenever I go out dressed, I carry a fresh box of donuts with me in the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Simmons View Post
    One reason why, whenever I go out dressed, I carry a fresh box of donuts with me in the car.
    You'll get pulled over a LOT with that sort of "bait"

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    that would be scary!

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    All that was required of you was to show your driver's license, proof of insurance, and registration. When he mentioned that the photo on the license didn't match up with your present appearance, you weren't really obligated to offer up any kind of explanation, nor were you obligated legally to answer his questions about drinking or smoking marijuana. You were not obligated to go back to his cruiser. You are not obligated to leave your car, unless you are being detained, which was your right to inquire about. If not your not legally bound to answer any of his questions, (self incrimination) nor to leave your vehicle. He had no right to search your car without your consent (And knew it) . They can answer any and all the questions they want, but your not obligated to answer them. Why you were dressed the way you were, where you had been, and where you were going isn't any of his business nor concern, UNLESS your the suspect of a crime. The odd of a particular man dressed as a woman in the clothes, wig, makeup, ear rings, jewelry driving the particular car that your were driving, having committed a crime or having been reported as such ~ are astronomical. He was WAY out of line and should be reported to his superiors. Just because your a cross dresser doesn't mean you surrender your constitutional rights, nor does it void your rights as a law abiding citizen.

    Just saying.

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    It's possible that you may not be "obligated" to do this or do that, but as a practical matter, cooperating with the officer will make things far easier on you and get you on your way faster.

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    What Krisi said is true, be forthright and not evasive or combative. You do not have to give permission to search, but don't be a jerk about it. If an officer feels you are being evasive in your answers is when your troubles start.
    Glad it worked out as well as it did for you. A friend of mine said they didn't have quotas per say but were told to look for certain things and if it has been a slow night.... he is bored and looking for something to do

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    Wow, we live in a comparative police state.
    Cops can, and do, pull you over and search for no reason. Random roadblocks are set up for this reason.
    We are advised to go along with all police and comply to avoid brutality. Good lawyers will get you off.
    For example, being in possession of certain drugs may be illegal, but taking the drugs (ie being in possession of the metabolite) is not illegal, provided you don't operate a vehicle. Yet the cops raid nightclubs and haul people off to be blood and urine tested. It proves nothing, but resisting just gets you a beating so we are advised to go with and call a lawyer when we get a chance. Sadly a lot of South Africans have no access to a lawyer, so our jails are full of petty criminals, some of whom have actually not committed a crime, whilst Oscar Pistorius and Shrien Dewani manipulate the system and either get off or are treated leniently...

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    I've often wondered what would happen if we got pulled over while my husband was dressed. I agree with the other replies that it was probably just that particular trooper. Most I think wouldn't care much, they've met far stranger people than CD in their line of work. Glad it worked out ok (even if it was a bit weird) and sorry you got a ticket.

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    A few years ago I made a left turn through the yellow and saw "no left turn 4pm to 6pm" as I went through. Sure enough, there was a cop waiting for me in the parking lot on the right. First and only time I've been pulled over in my life, and I'm dolled up at the time. My worst nightmare achieved, I am beyond mortified.

    I got out my insurance certificate and drivers license, turned on the dome light, and put my hands with my pretty French manicure on the steering wheel. Whether I was just lucky or benefitted from knowing the protocol, the follow up was a non-issue. Except, of course, that he asked me if I was wearing contacts because I needed corrected vision per my license. Sadly, no, so he added that to the citation. I paid the fine but it's not on my record as I subsequently did penance at defensive driving school.

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    1) yes good job begin the cute passible women you are!
    2) yes you were being singled out because you are a crossdresser. It must have been really annoying to him that you were not breaking any laws running a stop sign.

    One of my oldest friends is a local city police and my brother in law is a sherif at the other end of the state in a rural area. Guess what they are both told to ask someone at any routine traffic stop. Yup I smell maraujuina and are you drinking. You did good being honest though. I can only imagine the wired charges a trooper could come up with if you didn't say you were a crossdresser. Last time i got pulled over i didn't waste any time and just said give me a breathalyzer and feel free to search my car. The trooper laughed and left AFTER i passed the breathalyzer.

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    I have relatives who used to be in law enforcement and they told stories of being bored in the early morning hours (small town) and just stopping someone to break up the night. Your trooper may have been thrown off by your being dressed, especially looking as fine as you do. At least you kept your calm and made it through with only the citation.
    Oh, Kate, do Jersey and New York troopers appreciate the treats, too?
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    Maybe this had something to do with it?
    http://www.keepcolumbiafree.com/blog...ng-for-profit/
    Note, the DOJ has recently said they can't do this unless you are charged with a crime, I think, it may need you to be convicted? Glad nothing worse happened to you anyway.
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    I'm a little surprised by this story since, pulling the RN card usually creates some camaraderie with the police. Maybe you would have had a better experience with a female officer.

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    I had a very pleasant and amusing experience with a female officer while out on the vespa. It is unfortunate that there are a number of jerks who end up wearing a police uniform but I do believe they are the minority.

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