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    Dressing where people are drinking. Drunk people tell the truth.

    My SO went to her parents for the weekend after we had dinner. I was home during the evening and didn’t actually plan on going out again yesterday. I have been out dressing during night time several times before, and I don’t know why I suddenly wanted to go out. I wore a blue dress below the knees, panty hose and red high heels. I caught the bus downtown and nothing really happened there. At the first place a girl stopped me and told me I looked wonderful and asked me where I got the dress from. She also asked me why I was dressed this way. I told her I liked to do it and that I was feeling nice dressed like this. She than became even more enthusiastic and said she had even more respect. Later three guys sitting at a table stopped me before I entered the bar. They told me that they respected what I did, and said they were impressed that I choose to be my self. As I was walking around several people stopped to talk with me. I can not write about all the encounters. I ended up sitting with a group of six people talking and dancing. What I find interesting is that first they are interested in my dressing, but after a short period we always end up talking about ordinary things as life and family and so on.

    I left and went to another club. On my way I was walking through the streets of the city with a lot of drunk people all over. I never heard one negative comment the hole night. One girl ran towards me from behind and asked if she could tell me something. She said I made her happy because she could see that I was able to be my self this way in her city. We kept on talking and she was so nice. When I left she asked me for a hug and wished me a great night and told me thank you for what I did.

    At the last club it wasn’t as crowded as the first place. I sat down at a table. After about ten minutes a nice couple came over and asked if they could sit with me. After the ordinary questions about dressing we ended up talking about everything else for an hour before the place closed. They were really nice. I left and eat a hamburger before I got in a taxi on my way home.

    The moral of the story isn’t bragging about what I have done. It is what is said in several threads about being careful about going out where people are drunk because we could get in trouble. I know some places this could be the case, but my experience is the opposite. As I end up saying in all my threads I go out as a man in a dress all male above the shoulders and everyone sees that I am a crossdresser and it is very obvious. If I am being provocative to someone, at least they don’t tell me. My experience from these adventures is that when people have been drinking they tell the truth and they have the guts to approach me to talk to me about it. The interesting thing is that almost everyone is positive that we are able to express our self, and I have very seldom heard any negative comments. Maybe this is because most people are turning to get positive about crossdressing and self expression. At least as long it isn’t their own husband or son. But, that is another story….

    Thanks for reading. I hope to hear about your experiences.

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    From the title of your thread I was expecting a really horrifying tale but it's nice to hear that you had a really great time.

    The Scandanvians were always one step ahead of the rest as they were one of the first countries to have a very liberal attitude to pornography in the 1960s

    Thanks for sharing your experience.

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    i've been meaning to reply to one of your threads, Robinadress, because i do the same and get the same results - respect, acceptance, interest. while scandinavia is known to be well advanced, so i feel the uk is progressing well. i don't carry any fears about walking about "man in a dress" style at all, it works.

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    I present the same way, man in a dress, and I get all positive reactions. A lot of people say I should wear a wig, but that is not my thing, and to shave my chest, but my wife loves my cheat hair. Good luck to you and have fun with it.

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    Thank you for posting up your experience on going out in public. This thread, and forum in general, has given me a little more confidence in going out in public. Thank you all!

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    Robin, I get what you are stating: drunks have lower inhibitions and will engage where otherwise they would not. But, that is an argument on a knife edge, it can cut the other way too.

    I have been been to your lovely city several times and the people the are fundamentally more accepting than in other countries. It's like comparing San Francisco to Dallas. Both can be accepting but San Francisco is far more so.

    All things being equal, I think being around drunks is higher risk than not.

    Now, I wonder if you would have the exact same experience if you were trying to pass as a woman (wig, makeup, etc)? Could it be that because you are clearly just wearing clothes you are somehow less confusing to the normals? I think that would be an interesting experiment.

    Im glad you had a good time. Really. Best, Jen

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    I think that for the most part, most people are interested in us. I've had good experiences, but I'm careful. If you put yourself in a bad situation, things can go bad.
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    i think the story and adventure are great and so glad it went well for you.

    but it got me thinking...forgetting the risk....maybe getting together with a bunch of drunk people i might hear what people are really thinking.

    am i paranoid that we are all nice to each other here and that people we know are being gracious and kind to protect us. do i really look fat in this dress, is my makeup to ****ty.....perhaps that is all too real

    en vinas verite (sp?)

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    I went to a club in my local town Croydon a few weeks back, with a girl I'd just met at the support group. Had my best LBD on and all we got was interest from the girls there in the main. No problems at all from the guys. The only problem for me was in the toilet. I'm sure most of those girls were not old enough to be out, without permission . I really felt my age.

    My chin is on a spring at the best of times, but when lubricated with alcohol, it goes into overdrive. As my mum always use to remark, "you could talk the hind legs off of a donkey". A good old colloquialism for talking a lot .

    Glad you had a great time out and Oslo was a fantastic place when I visited in the mid 80s. So many stunning ladies in one place....wow!

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    Me too they say I can, not only talk the hind legs off, but the front pair as well then sell the poor benighted beast a set of wheels as well LOL
    when I came out to a female work colleague of 20 years standing her outburst of course " that explains the non stop chat"
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    Great story, it gives me confidence to one day go out as Britney

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    Thanks for recounting a very positive experience. And no, I don't take it as bragging. I think your motives are similar to mine: providing another data point regarding the experiences that people have when they go out. It adds to what we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl_Layton View Post
    The Scandinavians were (are) always one step ahead of the rest ........
    This too was my initial thought when I had read your post, but then I also read Jenniferathome's comment about that perhaps "you are somehow less confusing to the normals" in the fact that you are not trying to pass, and the fact that you are presenting as male above the shoulders is maybe an influencing factor. I guess what I'm saying is that people like to categorize folks they meet and our rigid bi-gendered system helps them feel comfortable about what to do.

    Anyway, mucho respect to you (and others) from me for having the courage to present like this in public. I'm not sure I could do it. I dress as a somewhat girly guy most of the time but anyone who wears dresses and heels but otherwise present as a male is taking it to another level. I'm absolutely certain that even though I live in the suburbs of a big city, if I were to dress like that in my neighborhood, I wouldn't get the same level of acceptance that you are lucky to get in your part of Oslo.
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    The point, sadly, is that so many people are afraid to be themselves. When they see someone who lives their life without that fear, they are blown away- and strangely attracted.

    This is why the most successful crossdressers are the ones who present with confidence, even if they are 6'3" with shoulders like Tarzan.
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    Thank you all for all the replies. This wasn’t meant as a post about going out as a man in a dress. It was meant for explaining that we may not be so afraid of going out during night time. Scandinavia is probably very liberal, but I would be surprised if it is totally different in other western civilized countries. Don’t misunderstand me, you all know your own area a million times better than me, but we have to be aware that the most fear sits between our own ears. I often think we crossdressers are the ones being judgmental to the general crowd. Please be nice to me about this one….. 

    Jenniferathome: Earlier I went out in a wig and makeup because I was afraid someone I knew would recognize me (I still am). My experience from that time was exactly the same, but it was less intense. It wasn’t that obvious that I was a man. When I went out like that during daytime no one approached me. Several did if I was out where alcohol was present, but not as often as when I am out as a man in a dress. The ones talking to me were almost always positive. You are absolutely right that the way I go out these days it is much more clear what I do, and you may be right that it is easier to approach me because it is so obvious. I can understand that someone would be afraid of approaching us because it is so easy to insult us even though it wasn’t intended.

    Rachel.Morley: Thank you. Your comment made me think too. I always thought the way I dress would be much more extreme than the traditional crossdresser. Maybe it isn’t so. Maybe it is easier for the general crowd to understand. Especially when I tell them I would still be a man. Everyone is different. I have also talked to people that have been angry with me because they believed I was making fun of dressing. This has happened to me twice, and both times they had a family member that was a transsexual. Both times we made friends after I explained why I do so and I showed my deepest respect with those feeling like a woman inside.

    Nikkilovesdresses: I 100% agree with you. It is all about confidence almost everywhere you go or what you do. Hold your head high and many people will be impressed that we are able to be our self.

    Keep on dressing everyone. We need to get out there and show the world that we are here and not some freaks. Everyone can contribute to educate the crowd.

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    I have great admiration for your courage to go out as a "man in a skirt". That's what I am but I'm a coward and would not dare to go out like that, in spite of frequently wishing that I could. I do it in my dreams sometimes. Somebody suggested that by not hiding one's sex we can be more acceptable to the general public. I'm not ready to try yet.

    I was very pleased that several others were a "man in a skirt" just like me. Sometimes I wondered how many others are like that, as we very seldom hear from them, as I knew that I'm not unique in not wanting to impersonate a woman.

    I love this forum and everyone here, whether they are "gurls" or "men in skirts". We are all friends here.

    P.S.I like your name, as my house backs upon Robina Avenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinadress View Post
    ...Keep on dressing everyone. We need to get out there and show the world that we are here and not some freaks. Everyone can contribute to educate the crowd.
    +1 to that statement Robin!

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    I have seen man in skirts and they draw some attention yet only interested onlookers. I imagine that it does take some guts your first time but ones I have seen seemed confident and were admired. Now, when I I put on a dress, or skirt. I look fem. So, I cannot do a man in skirt. I must go the woman way. My bottom size 10 shorts is loose on me. On a dress I must do a 11-12 dress as the top is tighter. So, for me no man in skirt. They would find me as a MTF trans woman or possibly a long cool woman in a black dress.
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