Biased Support.....would you....

[Eryn]

I'm not part of the LGBT community, and care nothing, either way, for their agenda. I have nothing against the LGBs, but I have no kinship with them either.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[Martin Niemöller]

[grace7777]

Rather than just focusing on boycotts, I think time and energy is better spent focusing on patronizing merchants who are openly LGBT friendly. Let's reward people who support us.

I had laser hair removal done at a place that openly supported our community. Also, I have made it a point to go to other retail establishments that support us.

[reb.femme]

I am more Libertarian in my views of such. A business should have the right to their own values and policies, as long as they are not illegal. You and I can choose to purchase goods/services there, or not.

So, I will not buy anything (ever) from liberal/leftist leaning companies... There are others. It is my right to not give any money that could be contributed to causes that I do not agree with.

I with you LydiaL, as I often find those espousing tolerance and liberalism will not countenance any form of dissent to their cause. A somewhat lop-sided view IMHO. It's for individuals to make up their minds and campaign as they feel fit, just don't expect me to be there on the campaign/march trail too.


...Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist...

I'm totally in tune with the underlying tenet of the above quote but, if this is the same Trade Unionists that made me join their little closed shop before I could work on London Transport buses back in the 70's, then maybe there was some good to come out of this? Democracy eh? I'm not a socialist yet they were politically affiliated to a very leftist party. What is the other quote about absolute power corrupts absolutely? https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...lutely%20quote. I'm more about balance of power.


Becky

[mykell]

thanks for all the replies......

I am more Libertarian in my views of such. A business should have the right to their own values and policies, as long as they are not illegal. You and I can choose to purchase goods/services there, or not.

So, I will not buy anything (ever) from liberal/leftist leaning companies. Ben & Jerry's & REI for example, no Facebook. There are others. It is my right to not give them any money that could be contributed to causes that I do not agree with. Should I go on a campaign to try to get others to hurt their businesses? I think not. Life is too short to get so worked up over a chicken filet sandwich, hobby supplies, ice cream, or whatever.

IMO, those in the LGBT community that get so militant in opposing certain companies, bakers, photographers, etc, are only hurting the cause for our acceptance.

wasnt trying to make any type of a statement, just wanted to reward those that saw us as equals no matter where are.....

Boycotting a business which opposes one's values is quite appropriate.

But it does not always work. There was a boycott effort against Chick-filet-A a few years ago - and it had the opposite effect. Sales dramatically increased.

I am not fried chicken eater but if I want a fried chicken restaurant, I would go to KFC or Popeyes.

i remember this.....pity that result was beneficial to that chain.....

If you are interested I posted a link to the 2016 HRC Buyers Guide, I decided scanning is too much time and file size limits it here for posting. If you are interested their is a phone app on the HRC site that is very useful as well.

Alternatively if you do not care where you spend your money at, well do not proceed any further...........move along

http://hrc-assets.s3-website-us-eat1...uyersGuide.pdf

lauri your link takes us to a dead end....

I'm not part of the LGBT community, and care nothing, either way, for their agenda. I have nothing against the LGBs, but I have no kinship with them either. There are certain T issues that I care deeply about, but I don't subscribe to any political agenda. Particularly not to an agenda that I had no hand in writing.

????? i dont even know what to say when people here make this type of statement....

I think this works on a local basis but gets really tough on a grander scale - I agree with Carla... it's largely symbolic - which doesn't mean you shouldn't try it, but...

How many folk are going to give up driving cars because actually oil production and use is very bad for the environment and has led to some pretty nasty wars...?
Will you reject every consumer electrical or electronic product that's made in China because politically they still persecute LGBT (and a whole load of ethnic minorities too...)? Bye-bye iPhones...

The other problem is that most muggles don't really care about anything other than themselves... I really don't see the activism of 20-30 years ago reflected in today's youth - they're all too comfy and hooked into their damned Twitter and FB and Xbox and 3D TV and.... don't get me started...



Katey x

sorry to cause you any angst katey, was not looking to start a movement....certainly not a war, just a symbolic statement that helps me support those that dont mind that we exist and if they are allies even better....

Ha! I can sort of relate but in a twisted way.

The chicken joint you mention puts out an annual calendar which comes with a card that earns certain freebies throughout the year. The calendar was given to me in 2014 and during that year I'd make it a point to hit up said chicken joint when on outings. I'd waltz in there in girl mode and order the freebie only, not spending another dime. Kind of my subtle protest, I guess.

where can we all get a copy so we all can through on the free chow bag...

[MarciManseau]

Marci, I so agree...I'll start doing the same. Nikki

Thanks for agreeing with me, if in fact you did mean me I love your pic/avatar. Nice hair

[MelanieAnne]

There's nothing wrong with Facebook and Xbox katey

Ummm, yeah there is. People have been killed, or committed suicide over stupid Facebook posts. And I watched my grandson and son in law turn into zombies playing Xbox games for hours and hours, never going outside, oblivious to everything around them, stopping only to eat.

[mykell]

We have both. good and bad. Here's one, http://www.ibtimes.com/worst-compani...ity-index-20-1
those who probably don't want anything to do with anyone who's not straight as an arrow. And we have the other side of the coin here: http://hrc-assets.s3-website-us-east...FullReport.pdf

My own feelings; being a crossdresser isn't all that I am. While I won't support one of those bad companies if I have a choice, if they're the only one in town, I might buy whatever they're selling, because I'm not going to starve myself on principle. Sort of not 'cutting off one's nose to spite your face'.

Hope that helps.

just had time to read the links you provided,
quite comprehensive miss....

i found it very interesting with Ross being on the bad list as many here support that chain by purchasing things and posting here often....kind of the point i was trying to make....many times im sure were giving blind support to entities that want nothing to do with us while they have no issues filling theyre registers with our money....
little nickles make big dollars, wouldnt you want an ally be the benefactor of where you spend for goods and services when their is a choice.....

[michelle64]

Personally..when that group pushes a list of companies to avoid i go right out and support them...i am not giving up chick-fil-a.. me and the wife also do crafts together and we both enjoy it..u guessed it we shop at hobby lobby..i am my own person and do not need them trying to define my identity..be yourself..you might find you feel much better being you

I am most concerned about suicide rates amongst the gay kids..kids who are bullied because they do not play sports..kids form broken homes..the poor...a stupid boycott list does zilch with matters such as these which hold far greater importance than a company policy...where is the lgb????? On these issues...

[NicoleScott]

There is consensus here that you can spend your money where you choose, or not.
CynthiaD didn't directly address the boycot issue (the thread topic) but only that as a T (gender identity/expression) she does not identify with LGB (sexual preference). By a few responses to CynthiaD's post, such non-affiliation and non-participation is unacceptable. So much for personal rights. Seems hypocritical to me. (Mikell: if you don't know what to say, you don't need to post "I don't even know what to say".......but it's your right I guess....just saying.) News flash. A lot of crossdressers don't identify with LGB. Corporate ideology is a non-factor in purchasing decisions, or way down the list from quality and value.

In response to the same-sex marriage controversy a few years ago, and for various "official" reasons, many universities no longer have a Chick-fil-A presence on campus. I wonder if these universities will decline a Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl invitation (and millions of dollars payout) if their football team should earn one.