bathrooms: just what goes on in there anyway?

[Krististeph]

From what I am hearing from my red-neck friends, they are afraid of their daughters having to issues with perverts. I wonder if they are as concerned with their sons and perverts! Most North Americans are prudes and those who attempt to prove otherwise go to the opposite extreme, which is as bad! There is a middle ground, dare I say the "c" word, compromise, which means that no one gets what they want,

Okay- this is good information- because no one want their daughters to have to deal with 'perverts'.

But what constitutes a "pervert"? The more open we are - the less chance anyone can get away with anything.

i can't think clearly at the moment, so i won't postulate anything- but it seems that reactionary people equate transgender with pervert, or on other words: "people who are not what think I grew up with" are "child molesters".

I understand the fear- heck we'd kill to protect our kids. All of us. But protect from what?

I think it really trickles back to beliefs..

keep working this train of thought, is what i am saying.



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Sorry, calling BS on that. I see more "misses" in the women's room on the seats because some women "Hover" Honestly, both genders have issues. So the whole seat argument is a fallacy. It comes down to, again, personal politeness. (One women's room on the interstate about mad me barf with all the urine on the seat and floor)

I see piddle on the seat in the bathroom (college) regularly. What the heck is going on there? Grab some tissue, wipe it up. wash you hands.

btw- urine- from an uninfected bladder, is sterile. Gross, YES; but sterile. I hate using the school bathroom but at times i must. I'm suprised we do not have disinfectant wipes in stalls yet. Too much risk from skin irritation from residual chemicals, probably.

Personally- i'd rather have a rash than a uti.

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Just how anal have Americans become over going? Remember "trough" urinals at gyms, ball parks, etc.? They took the one out of the old ball park about 30 years ago because the guys got tired of crowding up to each other between innings.

But this is where it all starts:

If everyone (male) is allowed to pee at will in a certain space- fine. What about those who are not male? It's not about shy-ness, it is about fear of exposure to the unknown or the unusual. We ALL have bad knee jerk reactions to it. But we have to realize that there are people out there who are not going to fit into simple male or female.

And majority rule does NOT work in these cases.

Think about a classroom. I teach electronics. I get very upset over the blase attitudes of some students. They play lawyer with me- (they do NOT win) but even at that- this is not a democratic decision: Do the freaking work.

what this means: Yes we should be relaxed about all this- but someone needs to set a reasonable standard, and enforce it.

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You know I have been in plenty of public pool locker rooms where a dad takes his daughters into the men's room and my wife has seen her share of boys with their moms in the women's room. These kids are all wide eyed and staring but no pitchforks come out and the police are not called. Diversity in the gene pool is good but not in public pool.

Good lord! A little girl might have seen a penis? Other than her dad's?

I think this is the crux of the issue here. really. Christie has hit the issue:

As a little boy- if you go into the women's bathroom. if the barriers are bad, you might see the private parts of someone other than your mother. I can see moms not all that happy about it and i can see moms kind of upset about it.

As a little girl- if you go into the guy's bathroom- the upset is so much greater. But why should it be?

granted- females are not equal to males, they are much more susceptible to rape and abuse. and we protect them more as such. And we should continue to do to for the foreseeable future.

The real problem is a minority of men who take advantage of situations like this.

They are first and foremost: BULLIES.

Eliminate the bully mentality and you eliminate the gender issues.

I think this works. Rally up sister TGs: Is this a reasonable hypothesis?

I really think this bathroom issue is a combination of several social issues: this would explain the complexity- and the inability to find a single simple answer:

Those guys who have to take their girls into the men's bathrooms- this is a hard thing. How do they do this? This is serious: because this is how we deal with issues of gender:

Privacy- in a stall, with dad- and no one dares mess around with it.

Privacy.

Forcing people to do bathroom functions en masse is the problem.

We all tend to choose privacy for bathroom functions - so why the freaking freak freak do we not just have private stalls in schools?

Money- it saves a few mother-freaking dollars to make a multi-stall bathroom rather than multiple stalls.

A few bucks, really?

The people who should be attacked are the ones who started this whole "lets go to the bathroom as grouped by genders" crud. It does not work. for little boys with moms, or little girls with dads.

This is the united states. 2016 quit asking me to share my bathroom activities for freaks sake!