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    oysters = kneecaps Abraxas's Avatar
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    Boys' loo!

    Right. So I've been to the boys' loo a few times. It was quite interesting. First time I went in a bar in Chicago. Twice, in fact. It was a single with a urinal and toilet in a stall. I used the urinal both times, which was fun.

    Then, in Cleveland I used the mens' in the airport (stall). Had no problems. I went in and pushed open a stall door, there was a guy in there already. That was a bit odd, that the door was open. So I just found a different stall. Not a problem. Again in Cleveland I went in a nice Bistro (a single again, and really excellent food. Not in the loo, of course). And then in the airport in Houston (also a stall). I'm not quite up for using urinals when there is a possibility of other guys going in. They might see the harness or something. I need to work on just whipping the thing out and not spending too much time adjusting and stuff. I might do it if there were dividers between the urinals. There'd be less chance of anything being seen, see. I can't go straight through the fly yet. I need to get to the point where I can just unzip and go. As of now I have to pull down my trousers a few inches. That's tough if I'm wearing a suit (which I frequently do), as the trousers can slip to the floor. So... yeah. I'm quite interested by this.
    What exactly is trouser protocal? How low can you tug them down when using urinals? Any advice on the technical aspect of taking a leak?
    It's fun.
    Yes-- socks! Run out again! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just... disappear. Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here, stealing the damn things, and selling them off. . . For me, socks are like sex: tons of it about, and I never seem to get any.


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    Hi Eddie,



    Trouser protocol ... First time I have heard that one ... I am hoping someone else will help here, because I tend to hate using the urinals myself - only in extreme emergencies and need do I use the things.

    Personally, it depends on the cut of the trousers I am wearing. If it is a bit tight and the zipper may be a problem, I tend to use a stall. I only stand when I can use the zipper. The other problem I have is that I cannot use the urinals when there is someone else there! Mental block

    Good luck Eddie!

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    Hmm. Thanks!
    Still a bit nervous about using them if other guys are in the room. I'll have to work on it.
    Yes-- socks! Run out again! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just... disappear. Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here, stealing the damn things, and selling them off. . . For me, socks are like sex: tons of it about, and I never seem to get any.


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    Well hot damn. It's about time you went into the men's pisser. Congrats Eddie. I have yet to ever use the urinal. I don't have the device for it, but I'm curious as to how the device exactly works.

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    oysters = kneecaps Abraxas's Avatar
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    Lol
    Well, as for the device: check out http://mangoproducts.net
    Basically there's a spoon thing you hold up against yourself and let fly. It's fairly realistic- looking, and it's not like most guys will be checking out your equipment. It takes a fair bit of getting used to, but is generally easy to use. Pretty nifty, and they have an adaptable sex kit as well, which is nice. Haven't gotten that yet, but I plan to eventually.
    Yes-- socks! Run out again! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just... disappear. Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here, stealing the damn things, and selling them off. . . For me, socks are like sex: tons of it about, and I never seem to get any.


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    Beefcake Jake xsideburnsx's Avatar
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    Right on. I've gotten a packy from them already, but yeah. I was iffy on gettin' pissin' pecker because I didn't know if they actually worked. Since you are proving that they do, it looks like something I'm goin' to have to invest in soon enough. I have no problems with goin' to the bathroom either way though. Sex kit? I guess I scanned over it cause I don't remember seeing it.

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    oysters = kneecaps Abraxas's Avatar
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    Yeah, it works alright
    The, eh, sex kit is called something like the Mango erection system. I think. Could be wrong, but it's on there somewhere!
    Yes-- socks! Run out again! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just... disappear. Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here, stealing the damn things, and selling them off. . . For me, socks are like sex: tons of it about, and I never seem to get any.


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    Don't drop trou.

    Hi, Abraxas. Serious yuks here!!! I love how we want to learn more about protocol. But, don't drop trou in the loo... ever! (Unless you are over 80).
    And NEVER, EVER look at any other guy's package (Unless you are in a gay bar or looking for a fight.) See, there are exceptions to every rule.

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    oysters = kneecaps Abraxas's Avatar
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    I didn't think so... Not even just below the crotch, though? I'm not talking about trousers on the floor (that'd be gross anyway), but just below my bits. I'm working on through the fly, but the underpants are the tough bit. A might constricting, see.
    Yes-- socks! Run out again! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just... disappear. Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here, stealing the damn things, and selling them off. . . For me, socks are like sex: tons of it about, and I never seem to get any.


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    Eddie, what about boxers? Gives you a bit more room to manoeuvre

    Love,
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    I switch off between boxers, briefs, and boxerbriefs. I feel a bit more secure in briefs when moving around, since my willie doesn't shift around as much. I can't spend all my time with my hands down my trousers. Trouble is I tend to wear fairly tight jeans, and as I've got to get the tube lined up under the crotch area (if ya know whatta mean) it makes things a bit more complicated. And, let's face it: leaks are quite embarassing for an 18- year- old guy. I suppose if I just low- ride my jeans then I've got more space once I undo the fly, right? I should try that. *shrugs*
    Yes-- socks! Run out again! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just... disappear. Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here, stealing the damn things, and selling them off. . . For me, socks are like sex: tons of it about, and I never seem to get any.


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    Well damn. I wear fitted pants and I'm not sure I can grow out of that habit. I hope when I get one of those pissin' peckers that I can work around that. If not, let me know what works best for you..Eddie. If baggier pants is the way I need to go, then I guess I'll just have to be some kind of yo boy.

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    Vivacious Vicky babe4life's Avatar
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    Yeah, I see what you mean. Awkward. Well, I was told that it is fashionable to wear your shirt over your trousers to an extent anyway. So that should give you a fair amount of discretionary room if you need it ...

    Good luck!

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    The thing is, I have to keep the tube straight, otherwise it back up, like a hose. No kinks or anything. I usually wear tight jeans as well. I don't like baggy jeans, but I suppose before I enter the loo I can tug them down a bit. And if there are no dividers between the urinals, I can just use a stall. Need to go into more guys' toilets to get comfortable in the environment. Also need to convince my friends to call me 'he' instead of 'she', which would help tremendously. They're reluctant at the idea, though. My friends here in Utah, anyway. My buddies nationwide and in England/ Australia are good about considering me to be a guy. The odd thing is, almost all my friends are LGBT. Even the ones here. Out of my 3 good friends, two are bi and one is gay. Yet they have this block about considering me to be male. I think that's a bit odd. Have to work on that a bit
    Thanks very much for your input!
    --Eddie
    Yes-- socks! Run out again! Why is it that no matter how many millions of pairs of socks I buy, I never seem to have any? They just... disappear. Honestly, you'd think someone was coming in here, stealing the damn things, and selling them off. . . For me, socks are like sex: tons of it about, and I never seem to get any.


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    keep practicing

    we even make a mess of it at times and we're suposed to be experts. good luck. LOL Wilma
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    There's nothing wrong with using a cubicle, many men instantly head for a cubicle and avoid the urinals.
    Don't be affraid of the urinals, men don't look to the side when having a pee, its just a no-no.
    I know this because i'm a m to f crossdresser so I use the mens a lot (not when dressed as a girl though).

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    Blimey

    Wow, the things you can buy on the internet these days!!!

    Hope you don't mind me adding my great knowledge Eddie. It's quite weird knowing stuff just because I was born a guy!

    So....

    Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Urinals For 'Men'.

    No-one ever drops their trousers when using a urinal. You can open the top button and pull zip down and open it out a bit, but never ever actually lower your trousers.

    If there are dividers you can fumble around and no-one will notice. Some guys do get their knickers in a twist and can spend a bit of time unknotting zips etc.

    The correct protocol is to stare straight ahead in a Zen like trance at the tiles in front of you until everything starts working, so you don't really stare down at your own tackle much after taking it out. A quick glance is all, just to check you arent filling your shoes.

    You never talk to anyone unless it is inane comment "Jeez I needed that..." etc. And if you turn your head you do it very stiffly so that you can't look down at all.

    Men do sometimes get 'piss shy' (a little discussed subject) and can't go with someone standing next to them so it is not all that noticable if someone uses the stall when they could use the urinal. People do it all the time.

    You're allowed to shake it afterwards, but don't go mad.

    If there are dividers there is a rather interesting protocol about which one you use, depending on how many folk are there. Basically if there are 5 positions, the first guy will chose an end, then if someone else comes in he will use position 3 or further away. The general rule is that you never stand next to someone if there is a choice NOT to.


    Hope that is useful.

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    Maybe this little Flash game will help - see how well you do!
    Have fun

    The Urinal Game

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    Hiya Hunky Eddie,

    Even as a boy i felt soo totally embarrassed using a gents loo, and so am hyper sensitive to the protocol. I always found it hard to pee at a urinal if anyone else was within ten blocks! Soo in a weird way, maybe my expereince of it mirrors your worry over using the gents.

    I think Julie's advice is spot on .. i agree with all she says, except, i am fairly sure you can look down at your male bit when using your flow to chase around a little bit of that sanitary tablet stuff they load urinals with.

    I agree too, no way can you lower your trousers more than a top button and the fly, look at another man's thingie nor stand near or talk other than grunts to any other man. This can leave you on occassions with a mega problem, one that always scared me ... when the Loo is full, stalls all taken, a queue of Bears behind you ...and only one urinal left amidst a row of big hairy men .. EEEEEEEEK!!!! ... you either lose face and blush like a maiden by turning tail and running out, or gosh noooo .. you have to go use it with these big men and their yukky horrid smelly thingies right beside you!!! I'd rather die, it is hard nuff to tinkle standing up, but with men behind you and beside you and feeling all those eyes watching you .. it is impossible!!! If caught like this, I have two tricks .. one i donlt think will work for you:
    1/ imagine you are standing there dressed in a really cute french maid uniform or other mega girlie outfit, looking totally shagadellic (wow makes my confidence soar and can let me pee , if i get right into the feel of it and relax)
    2/ pretend to pee, even down to the fake waggle at the end .. then scamper off knees together and hope to god i can find a quiet loo with a stall before i wet my knickers!

    How you guys can just go stand casually have a pee in a crowd and off, is beyond me, without even a little tissue to wipe your boy bit dry!

    If i must use the gents i can just about manage the hover over a well-tissued-dry stall seat, well flushed pan and with one foot out to keep the door with the obligatory broken lock, shut against intruders mid pee!

    Other things not to do:
    ... use the little/lower urinal .. that is for boys!
    .. spray your flow and miss your target onto someones shoe
    ... spend too long tidying our hair, washing your hands or sprucing yourself up at the mirror!
    .. oh gosh, and never ever forget if you are wearing exceptionally pretty frilly pink panties ... giggles okay sowee so that one is only for us girls not you Eddie!
    .. in the stall, ask the person in the next stall for a princess sized piece of tissue if you find yours is out!

    But you can:
    ... whistle as you tinkle, oops sowee, in boy talk i mean as you piss or pee!
    ....hold your thingie with thumb and first two fingers pointing down, and back of hand facing up. This looks cool casual and completely hides your part, er um assuming it is y'know um normal sized ..b-lush !
    ... pass wind as you pee .. and gruffly joke "Good Arse" or "more tea vicar"!
    .. read the grafitti on the wall in front of you!
    .. flick your ciggie ash in your urinal, drop your ciggie butt there too and try and chase it down one of the little holes with your flow!

    Remember, you can do it 'coz, men are desperately shy in the gents or shower room and scared to death of anyone feminine! I once played a charity game of soccer as a girl against boys .. trouble was the public changing rooms only had a male shower room .. i was soo hot and sticky after the game, i braved it for a shower. It was half full of big fat hairy men .. but the thing is not one of them dared look at me ... even with my pretty pink nail varnished toes, belly button and earring studs, pink wrap, flip flops, hair towel and cute little matching vanity bag! I of course got a free pass to scope all their little wiggly male bits and hairy butts ... I then realised that men lie attrociously and "six inches" is one hell of a lot smaller than i imagined

    love and hugz Mr Hungsome xxx
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    hahahahaha

    LOL!

    Yes as Tiffany so rightly pointed out it is compulsary to try and pee the little blue antiseptic thingy or a cig end to the end of the trough before you run out.

    But only if you don't invade anyone's space.

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    http://www.xes.cx/MT/archives/2004/0..._womens_u.html

    I'm hoping that the 'She-pee' female urinals will be at Glasto again this year. I didn't go in the end last year, I was a bit put off by the groups of giggling girls while I would have had to go in alone since I was there with my boyf. I'd rather just take my little funnel into the gents, I think I'd get pee-shy around other girls XD I really do wanna have a go at peeing standing up, and this would be a fun and acceptable way to have my first go!

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    Thats the ticket. While at the urinal, guys are in their own world and want no invasions. Don't talk to anyone using one or while using it (loud exhales are acceptable), one look down at the beginning and one at the end (kids are different, they are still perfecting their aim and need to make sure they've hit everything possible) and no more than three shakes or you get disapproving glances. While conducting your business, look either straight ahead - as if admiring the craftwork of the tile setters, at the ceiling or just close your eyes altogether (higher class establishment will put the newspaper sports page before you). Idle chit chat, though uncommon, is acceptable before and after (e.g.; "How you doin?" - "Much better now". - "ha ha". Or "Hows the water?" - "Cold" - "Yeah, DEEP, too").

    Speaking of "aiming"...I don't know if it is still around or not, but there used to be a game called "Whizzers". Little paper boats (usually war ships) to place in the toilet. The objective; not merely sink, but utterly destroy as many as possible. And, at any age, the floating target ( a cigarette butt that refuses to flush, for example) is irresistable. At bars, an occassional and prideful "AH HAH!" can still be heard from the toilet stalls, evidence of a newly sunken anything. In that event, congratulatory smiles and glances can be exchanged - words are unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas
    What exactly is trouser protocal? How low can you tug them down when using urinals? Any advice on the technical aspect of taking a leak?
    It's fun.
    Well, where I come from you are only supposed to open your fly - or at most the waist button as well. When I'm wearing panties I just go as though I were wearing flyless skivvies. Push the waistband down and pull my member out over it. But never lower your trousers at a urinal, even a little.

    As others have said, nobody is supposed to look at you anyway. Nor are you supposed to look anywhere but at the wall in front of you.

    The funniest thing that ever happened to me at a urinal was when I couldn't help looking at the guy next to me. While he was standing there with his Johnson out, he was counting a wad of bills that looked to be several thousand dollars. He looked at me, grinned and said "what the f***, over!"

    Once I saw a lot of ads for something called "La Funelle" which was being marketed to GGs as a way pee standing up, to avoid sitting on dubious public toilet seats. It never seemed to get off the ground, though.

    This is a VERY old one: Many men's rooms have a sign over the urinals saying "Please do not throw cigarette butts in the urinal". Eventually someone writes underneath: "because they get soggy and are hard to light".
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    Thought about it

    Hmm.. I have no answer to your problem about the whipping it out of the fly problem. (lol. I find it to be a humorous subject)
    I was considering getting one, but for now, i'll stick with the little spoon thing that girls can use when hiking and what-not (forgot what it's called).
    Perhaps I might get one once im outta the 'rents house. (Coming out to them is what im scared of. lol. They once threatened to destroy all of my clothes and junk if I turned out gay, which im not, but they'd prob do it anyways if they found out im a guy in mind and heart. Sheesh. Best to do it w/ miles between us.)

    Oh, what a pointless message. Has anyone had trouble just coming out to their 'rents?

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    Just a helpful hint... When at a urinal, never show cheek, it's ok to unzip and open the button and let it all hang out But don't let the pants fall down at all. This is a good way to avoid attention.

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