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    Therapy (long!)

    I started seeing a therapist for anxiety and depression a few months ago, and I have to say - I highly endorse it! I didn't go in with the specific thought that I would talk about my crossdressing. It took me about six visits to get there, but I'm so glad I did! As someone who's still "in the closest," I can't begin to explain how amazing it is to be able to speak out loud with another human being about it. I mean, this forum is great and all, but I haven't been all that active recently, because it just felt like treading water. It really helped me feel less alone, and it's so encouraging to see all the stories about coming out to SOs. But after five years, I needed more help. And I'm getting it.

    One of things that always held me back from seeing a therapist was I had convinced myself whomever I saw would say, "You have to tell your wife!" And that felt like a non-started for me (even though I want to anyway). One of the first things he said was, "Let's say you decide to tell your wife (and I'm not endorsing this one way or the other.)" That was all I had to hear, and I became so much more comfortable and able to talk. And eventually, it came out that I really do want to tell her, but have always been too terrified. So we're working through that now.

    It's interesting how many things I've read on the forum have been echoed by my therapist - there's some smart people here! One of the themes has been self-acceptance, and he's very adamant that I don't try to tell my wife until I've accepted this about myself. A lot of our time spent today was trying to get to the bottom of not so much why I crossdress, but what feels good about it. And even more importantly, allowing myself to enjoy it. It's the one place in my life where I can do something totally and completely for myself, without worrying about what others think. In may case, he believes part of the reason I get so anxious in other parts of my life is because I need to let myself feel the same joy I feel while en femme into all areas of my life. But accepting that the dressing is ok is the first step in that direction.

    When I tried to explain the absolute sense of joy you get when looking in the mirror and seeing your feminine self looking back at you, he interrupted me and said, "You've solved a problem that 95% percent of the adult population has forgotten - how to be child." That really struck me, but it's so true. As adults we get so beaten into submission, or conformity, I guess, that you ignore the things that give you the most joy. Look at how kids, when they are young, do what feels right to them. Society (and religion, and other things) teach you to feel guilty about feeling good, so you end up getting self-conscious and inhibited. This alone is helping me move beyond the guilt.

    The other thing that really helped today was discussing what many of us know as the "compulsion," that almost uncontrollable urge that comes over us when the opportunity to dress is there. I've done a lot to move past this by just giving in rather than fighting, but the feeling that this is just some sort of addiction, like alcoholism or something, still lingers. But talking it over, we surmised that a lot of this comes from being so repressed in most other areas of my life, that when this opportunity to "be yourself" arises, your being wants to take advantage of it to the fullest extent. It's the best emotional release. As he said, this is your one opportunity to truly be who you really are. The fear of getting caught and the guilt over doing something outside the societal norm likely compounds these feelings of compulsion. But it's not the same thing as being a drug addict, it's your brain wanting the opportunity to be happy and content. You are who you are and you like what you like (and I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam!).

    And on the topic of "being yourself," I really like how he tied it to just being me, whoever that is, and not "over-intellectualizing" it (his word). In other words, whenever I started going down the path of "the girl within" or being more towards the feminine side of the gender spectrum, he'd stop me cold, and get me back to just talking about how crossdressing made me feel, emotionally, rather than getting into these kind of abstract concepts. I know we're all different, but for me, this was a huge revelation. It's helping me stop obsessing about, "am I male of female" and lets me just accept myself.

    Ultimately, where he's trying to get me to is a place where I can be honest with my wife about why I like to dress. When I explained the overall sense of joy and happiness I feel, rather than trying to explain "why" dressing makes me feel that way, he said, "Shouldn't that be enough for your wife?" I know that it's more complicated than that, but it does help remove a lot of the doubt about those other nagging questions (are you gay, do you want to be a woman, am I not attractive anymore, etc.) Obviously, everyone needs to answer those questions for themselves. But in my case, when the answer to all those things was a resounding "no", then that's all that was left is, "then what the hell is wrong with me?!?" He's helping me realize that the simple pleasure of doing it should me more than enough.

    All this to say, I'm still freaking out about the inevitable coming out to my wife, but as I've said on here ad nauseum, I believe she's a very tolerant and open-minded person, who I believe loves me enough to work past this with me.

    I hope some of this is helpful to others, it certainly is helping me. I'd love to hear what others might think.

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    How often is it that we are told to see a counselor but don't? Good for you. You are probably saving yourself a lot of time in getting to the point of self acceptance. I struggled on my own for a long time, then struggled again to get my wife to understand me. (she's fairly accepting but not 100%)

    I'm glad you found a counselor you feel comfortable with. It sounds like he's not directing you anywhere, but instead helping you find the answers inside you when the time is appropriate for them to come out. I think that's how counselors are supposed to work, but not all of them do.

    Good luck in coming out to your wife when the time comes. I hope she turns out to be as open minded as you think she is.

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    Thanks for sharing Arriana, I really really loved your therapists comment about forgetting "how to be Child" good luck on your journey. one question does your wife know you are seeing someone?
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    Sounds like the therapist is heading you in the right direction. Best wishes going forward! Hugs Lana Mae
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    Reading your story, it occured me that your therapist knows what he is doing. He's your guide on your way to discover yourself. Isn't it funny though, that when you think about it, you have opened yourself to a complete stranger, yet you feel accepted and understood?

    I too am seeing a therapis for anxiety and depression, though I believe neither is linked to my dressing. I haven't told him about that either.

    I have had the compulsion to dress too, but at the same time it manifested itself in many other way. He too mentioned that it's a release of something I had forbidden myself to do or to be; that at the cost of my personality I put too much importance on what others might think of me.

    On the whole, simply talking with him about many aspects of my life in a non-judgemental space and absolute honesty has been a huge relief. There are many things that I am still ashamed of and he's first to know. Seeing that he is open and able to put almost everything into a perspective I can relate to, made me feel at little more at ease with everythig, get close to accepting and liking myself for who I am. And as a byproduct it lead me to be almost completely comfortable with my dressing and be proud of it for the first time in my life.

    I guess your therapist has been able to do the same. I'm glad to hear that. I would like to ask how are you letting yourself feel the same joy while dressed in other areas of your life?

    Anyway, I'm sorry if I made that almost all about me. Thanks for sharing and please, be yourself! Best of luck on your journey and with telling your wife.

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    Your therapist is on target, and I am glad that you found one that understands us.
    My wife and I have a wonderful therapist (a woman) that we had high seen over the years, individually and together. I had never divulged my CD'ing to her. When I came out to my wife a year ago, we had a few sessions, first my wife, then the two of us together. I was already fully comfortable with myself, and she helped get my wife more comfortable as well. One of the most important things that she stressed to both of us: there is no pathology in CD'ing, but it is part of who I am.
    that wasn't what I needed to hear, but what my wife needed to hear!
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    Sounds like a nice therapist and if you had anxiety and depression he is working through it with you. On coming out to your wife, that is one of the very hardest things to do and many of us has been through that. One never knows if his girl is going to be acceptance but we tried and found that we worked through the issues. Now it is no issue and we go out as two gals sometimes.
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    Thanks for taking the time to make such an honest post, Arianna.

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    A great post that I enjoyed reading every part of. I'm going thru a rough spot myself right now and am debating on seeing a councilor. Sounds like your is very helpful! I hope it continues as such for you!
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    Thanks for sharing so much about your therapy! I wish you the best of luck and health.

    I too am seeing a therapist - I sought out one who specializes in gender issues. I live in a fairly large metro area and thankfully had a number of gender-specialists to choose from. I am really happy with my experience so far - my sessions with her are one of the highlights of my week! It is such a relief to have someone with whom you can talk about anything and everything. By the way, I'm about ten sessions in.

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    Arianna,
    There are so many points to pick up on here, but it's great youv'e made this step, it's going in the right direction. At the moment forget the issue with your wife, keep talking to the therapist, maybe he should let you open up more about those other feelings because you will still have to deal with them.

    The thought of looking in a mirror and seeing a child is partly true, I was talking to a GG friend and she said our brains flip back to a girl in puberty or adolescence , wanting to be pretty and wear feminine clothes, looking back I can relate to that.

    He's encouraging you to express what CDing does for you, I can see where's coming from, it's a big guilt factor we carry by admitting we enjoy dressing and being made up, accepting that is a big hurdle but something you may have to play down when finally telling the wife. She may make the usual connections and think you're gay so she may also connect that you also enjoy that. It's taken me along time to admit I enjoy CDing it but finally telling my wife was hard but now she know the truth.

    Many of us do live with the straight jacket of how society wants or expects us to behave, it can be a stifling pressure, my counsellor couldn't believe how I'd lived with my suppression so long.
    I feel you must explore or suggest that we are born with this trait, and I also think it's important to examine how your CDing started. I wrote all that down for my counsellor, she found it very useful. The feelings go beyond CDing being a hobby, I found I stopped just short of being TS, but the line is a thin one, if you discover you have GD at least talking it through you can start to live with it.

    The big hurdle in all this is believing it's real, that takes some doing for an average male to come to terms with, it's not a childish thing you haven't grown out of, the wiring was different at birth and it's more than likely for life . If you can't help yourself and see what makes you tick then you have done the right thing in getting help. Don't forget he may be an expert in his field but he may not be a CDer so he can only guide you through this and help you find yourself and live with it. Once you've done that then you can begin to tell others, doing that with half truths and maybes isn't a good starting point. If it helps write it all down for you wife, maybe do it and ask the therapist to go through it with you, having something written down gives the impression you have thought it through and wanted to make an effort to explain it clearly.

    Obviously the ideal solution is ask your wife to attend a session with you, in my case that didn't work , I was the one that needed fixing so it was up to me to sort it.
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    Arriana,

    Thank you for the post. Sounds like you have a great therapist.

    I too started seeing a therapist for anxiety and depression. But, I went en femme the first time.

    I was amazed at how adamant she was that Christina is an essential part of my life and that was definitely a factor in my anxiety. I had never thought before that dressing was so important to me.

    It has been life long and I did repress it for many years. The guilt and shame are immense.

    When I dress, it's difficult to express the joy and happiness that I feel. She has told me to dress whenever possible.

    She spoke to my wife and found her extremely opposed to the idea of my crossdressing. The result is that she really has no idea what to do about it but try to maintain a DADT policy.

    Since then I have had several conversations with my wife about why I CD. I like your therapists idea to explain how it makes me feel. Unfortunately, the previous conversations were met with obstinacy and hostility so it probably won't make a difference.

    I'm starting to realize that to make gains concerning myself is going to take a long time. Learning to accept my life situation and to be comfortable with who I am and who I've been.

    Anyway, it sure is helpful to be able to talk to someone about my transgender ism and feel okay about it. I even get compliments on my looks!

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    Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed reading your story. Sounds like your therapist has you headed in the right direction. Best of luck to you.

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    I'm pleased for you not only because you chose therapy but also because you found a good therapist who is focussed on trying to help you understand and accept yourself. I like the part where he wants you to focus on how your cross dressing makes you feel emotionally. I often see reference to cross dressing being a hobby but for me, and I believe for most of us here, it is about our feelings. You mention the overall sense of joy and happiness that you feel when dressed. That is what I feel. It feels right for me and I feel very comfortable. After all I have been dressing since the age of about 5. It is an integral part of me, not just something I have taken up to fill my leisure time, and I suspect it is that way for you too.

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    Arianna: that was a wonderful and very encouraging post. I really appreciate your insights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky Blue View Post
    does your wife know you are seeing someone?
    Yes! I made sure to let her know I was feeling a lot of anxiety, which she knows because work has been causing me a lot of stress. As I said, I didn't go specifically for the crossdressing, we got there organically.

    [QUOTE=Lucy23;4026950
    I guess your therapist has been able to do the same. I'm glad to hear that. I would like to ask how are you letting yourself feel the same joy while dressed in other areas of your life?

    [/QUOTE]


    We just had this breakthrough, so I can't really help there yet. But at least, he's helped me be able to dress without feeling as guilty or anxious, and accept that this is just what I do. And that's a start!

    Quote Originally Posted by Teresa View Post

    Obviously the ideal solution is ask your wife to attend a session with you, in my case that didn't work , I was the one that needed fixing so it was up to me to sort it.
    He offered that but only if it becomes necessary. It we reach an impasse, where we're not communicating, then that's the time to bring her in.

    Thanks for commenting everyone! I appreciate all the support and kind words.
    Last edited by Lorileah; 11-26-2016 at 12:40 AM. Reason: you don't need the whole quote to respond to parts

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