Which came first cross dressing or being bisexual

[mical7]

I was around 18 or 19 living at home. I had no privaticy at all plus I never had my parents house to my self .In addition hiding womens clothes inside was out of the question. I knew Walter from across the street was gay and very layed back. Well one day I went over too his house and explained my problem. I asked him if I could keep some clothes at his place and dress there. He was very happy to help me out. I even got Walter to buy me why first outfit I much too scared too do it myself. Well the day came I called him he had my unitard and leg warmers I wanted. I didn't want anything to happen sexual but well it did. I just wanted some where to dress not gay sex. Up too this point I was completey straight It became a 3 too 4 time a month trip to Walters and could get all the clothes I wanted and I did. I know I am not the only one who has some sexual response to cross dressing so that's what I passed it off as. Has anybody else had this feeling

[Fiona123]

I suspect it's different for each of us. For me cross dressing can be sexual, depends on my mood. My sexual orentation is straight not bi. My gender is trans not cis.

[ClosetED]

The data I have seen puts the rate of homosexuality in CDers slightly less than average US population. When I was 18 and off to college, I answered ad from man who thought boys made the best girls so I similarly went to his house where he had prior person's clothes and makeup. I got to be his girlfriend but only to "second base". When he wanted more, I never returned. That help me decide I was hetero CD and not bi or TS.
Since you could have been pressured once but decided to return, I think you were always bi. Data supports that both gender identity and sexual preference have genetic component, so you were born with both. Your environment happened to allow CDing desire first and bi second.
Hugs, Ellen

[pantyhoselvr kendra]

I started wearing my moms things at age 8. I knew at the same time that i was different from all the other boys i went to school with. I just didnt know what or why. My mom told me that she noticed that i liked boys. I liked paying with my sister, her friends and their dolls. At 13 I had a friend like me, we both knew, and spent the summer dressed in his mothers and my lingerie. It eventually became sexual and he was my first lover. A summer i will never forget. At our ten year reunion we ended up back in bed. I had a threesome with him and my wife. I want it again but my wife said once was enough for her

[AllieSF]

I don't think that either is causal for the other. I can see how they can happen close together and maybe in specific cases as in yours, Mical, that to get to the goal of dressing safely you got involved in a same sex situation. Are you Bi now, or was that a one person only situation?

Being gay or lesbian is there from the beginning. I believe that being Bi is also there from the beginning. One may need a stimulus to realize what they are and that may only happen late in life. Just depends on the person and their life.

[karynspanties]

I started wearing girls clothes and getting into my moms slips when I was about 4 years old. I knew nothing about sex.....so crossdressing came first.

[Stephanie47]

I started wearing girls clothes and getting into my moms slips when I was about 4 years old. I knew nothing about sex.....so crossdressing came first.

Same here, but, a decade and a half sooner. I too had no idea about sex. I grew up in the 1950's and 1960's. Sex had not been invented yet. Playboy was about as risque as there was back then. Lucy and Desi slept in separate beds per morality code of television. I dabbled in my mother's slips with absolutely no sexual motivation. I loved the feel of nylon. When puberty set in and I started to notice girls which was junior high school the thought I could be gay, although the terms were a lot more vulgar then, confused me. Back then wearing women's clothing = being gay. My late teens were racked with sexual confusion. I really envy kids who were raised in the computer age.

I suspect you would have turned out gay whether or not you were attracted to women's clothing. I suspect Walter used your desires for wearing women's clothing for his own sexual interests.

[stephanie2000]

Interesting thread. I'm sure many Cross Dressers have experienced a similar experience. I'm certainly no expert at anything really. I'm just going with the flow of my mind and body. So I had a sexual experience with an older boy in the neighborhood when I was under 10 and it has shaped my sexuality ever since. I really don't know were I fall. I try not to judge or position people in one way or another. For me there has always been something sexual about dressing in woman's clothes, especially lingerie - which I love. I don't have to be with a guy if I am dressed and I don't have to be with a girl if I'm in guy clothes acting as a guy. Honestly I have no idea were I fall other than I seek happiness and pleasure.
Hugs
Stephanie

[Jaylyn]

I think my cross dressing sometimes might be a sexually stimulating thing. At my age I think it's great for it to be just that but I also feel I am meeting my inner self or as some say getting in touch with your feminine side. I am straight but when wife and I had our fling with experimenting in many sexual activities we pretty much tried a little bit of everything. Won't go into any explicit activities we tried but it has made us stronger for growing sexually together. Left us some great memories we sometimes regret but mostly find just thinking about them sometimes adds to the excitement today. My cross dressing came first also.

[Tracii G]

Funny how people assume CDing has something to do with being gay.
Out of all my gay friends I'm the only one that is TG and CD's.
As long as he didn't force the sex then you were up for it correct?

[Jenni Yumiko]

I agree with tracii g, however in my case I have one gay cd friend the rest are straight, married or in hetero relationships, including myself. Not to say I haven't tried, have to try everything once or twice, that's what life's about.

[mical7]

oh yes I knew in the back of mind what was going to happen I just couldnt help myself I so enjoyed dressing up so I kept going back over I think the gay sex just grew on m

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After I moved out on my own quickly realized I was going to be able too explore sexual activities with other cds which I did plus dressing in your own home is very freeing. Plus I was able to start going out in public dressed

[Vanni]

Well for me they both came around the same time. I always loved wearing my sisters things, and at the same time had an ongoing bi relationship with my best friends older brother. I've had much more hetero activity than bi, but I do enjoying dressing and interacting with men. As others have posted, I get turned on by a beautiful woman but not by looking a a man. Not sure why that is....

[Confucius]

I've been crossdressing for as long as I can remember. I can recall being 3-4 years old and crossdressing. It had nothing to do with sex. I just thought that being a girl was better. I thought that my mother would love me better if I was a girl. At the same time I always knew I was a boy.

I've never had any bisexual interests, ever, at all. So my sexual orientation is - straight. My gender identification is - male. However my childhood was marked with some gender dysphoria.

I guess there are many paths that result in crossdressing.

[docrobbysherry]

I don't believe crossdressing can make u gay. Altho, quite a number of girls here say they r attracted to men or other T's ONLY when they r dressed!

Sex is VERY MUCH involved in my dressing. However, anything that looks or acts male, or has male parts, is a turn off for me!

I've read stats here that say the % of gay CD's is comparable to the % of gays in the entire male population.

[Tracii G]

It seems by reading this thread that some are straight and not bisexual because they only feel bisexual around other CDers.
They are attracted to the outward appearance of the CDer not what gender they are physically or what body parts they have.
I see that mentioned here a lot but its not really bisexuality at all yet they claim it to be for some reason.
If neither were crossdressed there would be no chance in hell they would be attracted in a sexual way.

[TrishaTX]

I know I dressed first but they have gone hand in hand for me forever. I love to dress and it still has sexual undertones for me ...some of which are Bi.

[Diane Smith]

It sounds to me like Walter was able to turn your predicament to his own advantage by controlling access to your clothes in exchange for sex. Not a very healthy arrangement, I think. Was he significantly older than you at the time?

- Diane

[Maria Blackwood]

I came out bisexual in college. Crossdressing came years later, and is completely unrelated.

[ginapoodle]

Purely attracted to women.

[savannaxdrsser]

For me it was the crossdressing, I started when i was around 12 going thru puberty, i didnt really understand any of what i was feeling, but at times do remember putting on my mom and sisters things and liked the feeling of being a girl. On and off thru life i dressed some, at times thinking maybe i was gay, but i was always involved in a hetero relationship. as i got older and the internet came about, i began to explore my issues more and more, it clearly was a gender thing, but i have bisexual feelings and at times, gay feelings. i am still working it all out.

[Julie MA]

Began cross-dressing around the same time I started to feel sexual. But I didn't know what sex was, just that I got aroused, etc. While learning about sex, from discussions with friends and finally some info from dad, around age 12, I was convinced I was hetero. Then in high school I had gay/bi thoughts, and acted on them with a probably 30 yr old man, when I was 19. CD was still just an opportunity based activity. No real interest. Now 54 yrs old, I have had plenty of hetero, and casual gay/bi sex. Only over the past 3-4 years have I begun to explore CDing more, buying my own, going out. It is still somewhat sexual but I am now enjoying the social aspect of it, and finally feeling that it is a part of me that I accept and embrace. Coming out to my wife Nov 2016 was the biggest help in my feeling fully good with it. Can't remember who said it, but there is a quote something like, you can only hide the real you for so long before you don't know the real you anymore.

[deebra]

For some that are deeply into CDing, dress completely as a woman and like to think of themselves as a woman when dressed isn't it reasonable for them to carry the woman thing further by wanting to be the woman in a male /female relationship. Of course the CD woman would want a man to do the things a woman does with a man. This would help her validate her female role more so. A lot of sexual activity can be tried, maybe disliked at first but the more it's done the person begins to enjoy and desire it.

Then their are the CDers that just like the clothes and the clothes don't push their sexual "button".

[mical7]

For some that are deeply into CDing, dress completely as a woman and like to think of themselves as a woman when dressed isn't it reasonable for them to carry the woman thing further by wanting to be the woman in a male /female relationship. Of course the CD woman would want a man to do the things a woman does with a man. This would help her validate her female role more so. A lot of sexual activity can be tried, maybe disliked at first but the more it's done the person begins to enjoy and desire it.

Then their are the CDers that just like the clothes and the clothes don't push their sexual "button".

well put well said

[Lacy PJs]

Perhaps you didn't intend it that way but your title suggests that one necessarily follows the other. I think that many here (including me) would not see the connection. While I'm sure that there are crossdressers who are bisexual and bisexuals who crossdress, there are probably many more who practice one lifestyle but don't venture into the other camp.

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