I bought a pair of ladies Columbia pants, size 8. Look like hiking pants with the legs that zip off to leave a pair of Bermuda length shorts. They do not scream "female" but they do have a short zipper and lower waist than a comparable men's pants. I wore them to the golf course and one of the guys wanted to know where I bought them. He wanted a pair. I said I wasn't sure as my wife bought them (not true) but I couldn't hardly tell them the women's dept at TJMaxx. If he only knew he was asking for a pair of women's pants.