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    Could it be that my wife is more observant and discerning than I imagined?

    As I've briefly shared, my wife doesn't know about the "Shawna" persona inside me. Or at least that's what I believed. Recently, (because of my drastic weight-loss over the past year as I work to really feminize my look) I was complaining about how my sweat pants were uncomfortably big and that I hated the draw-string variety anyway. She responded by giving me a pair of her workout pants saying, "I don't wear these anymore - why don't you take them?" I responded: "Aren't they women's pants?" To which she replied, "Does it matter? They're black and no one will be able to tell the difference!"

    SCORE! They DO fit different with no pockets and no draw string - and I love them!

    Next (and I posted this in another topic) - a couple of weeks ago, she advised me to start using a specific body butter for dry skin and overall skin care. Coincidence? Perhaps. Discerning that I have a softer side than most know about? More probable. After more than 20-years of marriage, it seems impossible that she hasn't picked up on a few tell-tale signs. We'll see where this leads, but I'm encouraged and hope that in the near future (although slow and steady) I can finally share all of me with her.
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    Shawna, I would not read to much into it. The workout pants and body butter are not a dress or a teddy.
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    Jamie, you're right of course...perhaps just wishful thinking on my part...but time will tell - and if nothing else - it leads me to see that perhaps I can deliberately begin to drop certain hints of my true nature.
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    I find that our loved ones don't know us as well as think, but usually better than we'd imagine!

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    It is remarkable to me that so many husbands think their wives are oblivious to what they do. Not saying she knows, but.............

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    You're on safe ground for now. Advance carefully. They set traps you know.
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    wifes always know more than you may think. Some will let you know right away, others will keep it to themself and a very rare few will openly accept. Time will tell, but don;t be too suprised or over think it.

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    Like others have said, don't read too much into it.It would be great if she was being coy, and simply giving you discrete encouragement. Even though she likely is more observant than you think, but those comments are pretty meaningless.

    A more important question is how will she react/respond if and when she discovers Shawna. Are you willing to leave that to chance?
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    Do not drop hints to "see how it goes". If she does not know now, she will eventually figure it out. That she comes to know about your nature may go badly, but it will be worse if she discovers your deception on her own. It will be worse still the longer that deception continues. But you know her better than anyone here. It may be that she is understanding and accepting. Let us hope so.

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    Hi Shawna , Go easy and be sure to read line #4 in my signature. >Orchid ..oo..
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    sounds like a cat and mouse game to me. Wives always know more that we think they know, and seldom let on that they know more. IMHO!
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    Shawna,

    You probably don’t want to hear this, but:

    1) she will find out. It’s a given
    2) how she finds out will likely dictate the course of the rest of your marriage. You can either have that conversation eventually as a forthcoming honest husband or from a defensive position where you’ll need to address both this issue and 20 years of deception in tandem.

    Tread carefully.

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    Thank you and hugs to all my sisters for your advice. There is certainly a lot for me to think about, and I'm not taking any of it lightly.
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    Unless there is a specific reason for her to suspect, then she most likely doesn't... in my opinion she will only find out if you choose to tell her or make a mistake.
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    I agree with KatrinaK. If your wife does not now know (or suspect) she is likely to figure it out sooner than later. My thoughts come from my experience of thinking I was the most careful person in hiding my dressing passion. Of coursee I was no where near as careful as I believed. I was just lucky to have a wife who after she found out made the effort to be understanding. For me having my wife know turned into a blessing. Best wsihes to you and your wife.
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    OK - so I'm really beginning to wonder...my wife just returned from shopping and bought me 3 pairs of workout pants just like the pair she gave me and 3 workout tops (one a very pretty coral color)...all from the ladies department...I really need to think about this...
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    I think your wife has an idea about you or likes seeing you in neat workout clothes, just wear what you are given and see what transpires.
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    and beauty will follow.

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    I think that's exactly what I'm going to do, Beverly...excited to see where this all leads...
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    I don't know your wife, Shawna. So, I don't have a clue.

    U know her better than any of us. So, if u don't know what's going on, why not ask her!?
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

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    We all see other people's relationships through a filter of our own past experiences, and I always acknowledge in these threads that mine was bad, but that said...

    I think you should talk now before this thing gets too big in your head and you lose the plot. It doesn't have to be a big drama, just acknowledge that you've noticed she's buying you these things and that you appreciate it (she knows you do or she wouldn't have bought more, regardless of whether she suspects about Shawna or not). And see where it goes from there.

    You said yourself you're "feminizing your look". She's not blind... it doesn't mean she knows about Shawna necessarily, but she knows *something* is going on and she loves you and wants to know what's happening in your head & heart. If you don't communicate she'll start to get hurt and angry, you'll start to get paranoid and that combination ain't going anywhere good. I think she is offering you a chance to talk and you should take it. I don't think it's a cat and mouse game yet, but it will turn into one if she starts to feel that you're hiding something and this is the only way she can find out what it is. Is it another woman? Are you on drugs? What's so awful that you can't tell me?

    YMMV. My experience is that everyone gets paranoid if someone else is behaving oddly and won't say why.
    Last edited by Eemz; 11-04-2018 at 08:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawna View Post
    OK - so I'm really beginning to wonder...my wife just returned from shopping and bought me 3 pairs of workout pants just like the pair she gave me and 3 workout tops (one a very pretty coral color)...all from the ladies department...I really need to think about this...
    If it were me I'd say "thanks sweetheart". Enjoy wearing them in front of her. Without necessarily needing to think about it. I would let nature takes its course. Your wife knows you are wearing garments from the ladies department. If she likes you in them she'll let you know. If she asks do you like wearing what I bought you I'd say yes, very much. And see what develops. The idea of 'hint', hint turns me off. Besides, that leaves you in the weaker position.

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    Is there a specific reason you are keeping this secret from her? Do you believe that dropping “hints” will help your cause? Do you want her to figure you out on her own? Not sure why you are asking strangers on a forum rather than having a frank conversation with your wife.

    From what you have shared in this post, it sounds like she cares about you a lot. Just my opinion, it would be the respectful thing to do to tell her what is going on. You know your wife best. Not sure how hurt she would be if you continue this charade and she finds out later.

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    I think she already knows and is giving you an opportunity to be forthcoming. The pants are one thing because they fit you and you like them, but the tops from the women’s department feel like she’s giving you a big, open, opportunity to come clean in a safe environment. I agree with Char that there’s a lot of love there. You have to follow your gut about when the right time is, but it feels like you’re being given an opportunity here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by char GG View Post
    Is there a specific reason you are keeping this secret from her? Do you believe that dropping “hints” will help your cause? Do you want her to figure you out on her own? Not sure why you are asking strangers on a forum rather than having a frank conversation with your wife.

    From what you have shared in this post, it sounds like she cares about you a lot. Just my opinion, it would be the respectful thing to do to tell her what is going on. You know your wife best. Not sure how hurt she would be if you continue this charade and she finds out later.
    That's your answer right there.

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    As a guess … I'd say by now your wife is signaling to you her knowledge of your crossdressing, giving tacit approval, yet graciously allowing you to maintain plausible deniability in deference to your feelings and out of concern that the topic might be difficult for you to openly discuss with her.

    Might be time to open up to her directly and praise her sensitivity as you do. Clearly she cares about you a lot, whatever she knows or doesn't know. I say go for it. It might help her express any lingering questions she may have and also open up a new world for the both of you!

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