The ZZTop test

[Eemz]

OK so here's a fun idea I had recently, based on a comment someone else made elsewhere in this forum.

It's a role reversal game to try and get a better perspective on the other side of CD in a relationship.

Let's suppose your wife/SO came home one day and told you that when you're out of town she likes to put on a plaid shirt, work boots and a ZZTop beard and go about her daily life. Not only that, but she's being doing it secretly for years and now she wants to dress that way more often, and ideally with your help. Maybe even go for beers, trucks, fishing, guy stuff. Actually she has an assortment of beards and other stuff she's been hiding all these years. At some point she'd possibly like to introduce it into the bedroom, maybe dressed as a lumberjack, but we don't have to go that far yet.

How would you feel about that?

[Oldlvb]

I think that I would open minded but that is a great question to ask ourselves because that is pretty much what we are asking of our spouses and girlfriends.

[Mermaiden]

Can’t see it happening, but if it did, then I echo Chrissy, “everybody loves a sharp dressed ‘man’”, so sure, I’d put on a “pearl necklace” and go for it.
More seriously, I mostly want to her to be happy and to share as much of our lives as we can. Everything else can fit around that.

[Crissy 107]

Ok, the plaid shirts and work boots I can maybe be ok with but the ZZ Top beard a no go for sure.
Now if she has legs and knows how to use them....

[ClosetED]

My wife got a play beard and did something like that - I was willing to try it. Because if it made her happy to try it, I would try it. Now if she had strap on and wanted that, that is different. Or another person
Ellen

[Eemz]

Yeah that’s just it Crissy. She hates having shave legs and wants to grow them out...

[Crissy 107]

Yeah that’s just it Crissy. She hates having shave legs and wants to grow them out...

Eemz, One word from where I come from, Forgetaboutit!

[Patience]

If women would be ZZ Top, what would webe? The Spice Girls?

[Kelli_cd]

She could be my Sharp-Dressed Man!

[GretchenM]

I assume I would be understanding because I am a type of trans person and therefore understand that such things happen - happened to me so why not her? That said, it would still require an adjustment and a bit of adaptation. However, to keep the switch around in this question valid we need to assume that we are not the way we are and are solidly cisgender. The answer to the equation is very different in that case. I think it is important for us to consider this question very seriously to achieve some empathy with the SO.

[Krisi]

The real question is, Why do men dress as women but women not dress as men (with the exception of some lesbians)? We have web forums, we have specialty stores, we have transformation services. Women have nothing.


Now to answer the question, It would be unfair for a crossdressing husband to forbid his wife from dressing as a man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. It would be interesting.

[Meghan4now]

The real question is, Why do men dress as women but women not dress as men (with the exception of some lesbians)? We have web forums, we have specialty stores, we have transformation services. Women have nothing.


Now to answer the question, It would be unfair for a crossdressing husband to forbid his wife from dressing as a man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. It would be interesting.

Hmmm, interesting thought, but the whole premise is really apples to oranges, or is that melons to bananas?

Anyway to a point, there is some speculation on the concept that men, driven by testosterone, have a higher incidence of sexual interests including "fetish" which may be true for some crossdressers. Additionally, acceptability in variance of presentation, clothing and hair style for women is wider, so if a woman wants to look a little more Butch, it is not controversial. Therefore, the "need" or desire for female to male crossdressing is much smaller market.

Now to the OP posit, if my wife felt very compelled, I would have to learn to adapt a bit, and yes there could be a challenge or two. However, I think presentation would be a driver. I don't like an unkempt male presentation anyore than a sloven female presentation. You won't catch me looking like something from a people of Walmart video, and I would expect the same of my mate.

[Hell on Heels]

Hell-o Eemz,
Would she let me borrow her truck?
Much Love,
Kristyn

Side note, the drummer of ZZ Top was the band member without a beard.
His name???Frank Beard.

[docrobbysherry]

I'd love it! Like having a new Best Buddy! I'd take her out to the truck stop on 95 for beers and their $4.95 dinner specials.

Or, go shoot pool at Ed's Downtown Bar and Grill!

[Tina June]

Interesting idea!
I am not sure how I would feel about it. This might take some time to digest.


OK - I think I might have an idea how she feels.

[AndreaCalifCD]

So long as no actual ZZ Top "songs" were involved - I'd have to draw the line at that...

[Babbs]

Maybe she starts to watch the Pat's Games with me...lol. I get your point though...she better not introduce that into the bedroom though...that I don't kid about...oh boy, shooting down my thinking of telling the wife

[2B Natasha]

Well first I would ask her why it took so long to come out to me. I came out to her a long time ago. What was she waiting for? Then I would ask her if she’s gay, repeatably. I had to listen to it from her and she was hiding this. So she can listen to it until it’s really irritating. In the middle of allThat I would ask her what her end game is. Where does she want to be and does she plan on becoming a man. After I was really annoying about it. THEN I would ask her if she wanted to go anywhere? Like to a bar. How do you see this man that you present? Is he a macho man? A hipster? A lumbersexual? Woodsman, sportsman. What. And what would you like to do with this and the two of us? Do you see me as the lady in the man’s arm? I expect you to hold open doors and the like if that’s the case. And hand over your credit card. I’m going shopping.

Cheers.

[Maria_mtf]

Well first I would ask her why it took so long to come out to me. I came out to her a long time ago. What was she waiting for? Then I would ask her if she’s gay, repeatably. I had to listen to it from her and she was hiding this. So she can listen to it until it’s really irritating. In the middle of allThat I would ask her what her end game is. Where does she want to be and does she plan on becoming a man. After I was really annoying about it. THEN I would ask her if she wanted to go anywhere? Like to a bar. How do you see this man that you present? Is he a macho man? A hipster? A lumbersexual? Woodsman, sportsman. What. And what would you like to do with this and the two of us? Do you see me as the lady in the man’s arm? I expect you to hold open doors and the like if that’s the case. And hand over your credit card. I’m going shopping.

Cheers.

Personally I thought that was hilarious :-)

I actually thought about this question the other day and surely the answer has to be we would be supportive, since that is what we crave in return.

[Leonora]

Well it would be a complete turn around for us and maybe explain what they feel when we want to wear women clothes. It something to think about.

[EmilyGarden]

A ZZTop test would be rough. My wife has been into Bastille alot lately. That would be an easier test.

[sometimes_miss]

You're preaching to the choir, here, Eemz. We know what it feels like to want to cross the gender lines, so it's much more likely that we'd understand why a woman might want to don OUR outfits and role behavior on occasion.

[Stephanie47]

Your scenario is pretty much why I honor my wife's declination to participate in my desire to wear women's clothing. I know many women who are rabid baseball and football fans. I know many who golf and fish. I don't golf and fish, although I like to cook and bake. I also clean the house.....women's work? I have seen some drop dead gorgeous women in flannel shirts (men's), work boots, and, men's tee shirt. Hard hat too. The beard/facial hair and the strap on would be going a little bit too far.

Now, what would you say if your wife was attired as you suggest, and, ordered you into a slinky nightie, wig and makeup when you came home from work? Willing to do the role reversal all the way? All the way?

[Tracii G]

I see a lot of lies in the future of this thread.
Not many here will admit they would go off the deep end in a situation like that.

[LaurenS]

I see a lot of lies in the future of this thread.
Not many here will admit they would go off the deep end in a situation like that.

Very good point.