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    I got that Mikki before you started typing your reply. Are you saying that it is wrong and should be prevented? My point is so what? Let the 6' micro wearing person have their own moment. They know they stand out and they like or at least accept that. Why do we have to judge here and insinuate stop it, I don't like it, it hurts me, it hurts us all? We don't have to like anything, but to make cause around here that it is wrong, when it is not? I do not understand that.

    It may upset some people, but you still do your drag presentations and are proud of that, which you should be. Why should we denigrate the good feeling one has when dressing the way that they want? Leave them alone. They are not hurting anyone. We shouldn't judge and should just let others live their life. What about the people that think any man or transgender person dressing as anything but their birth sex is wrong and should stop, preferably with vert stiff laws and penalties? Who sets the rules to define what is bad or good?


    It should not be controlled (should it be controlled?) except for legal laws for indecent exposure, most written with a lot of common sense behind them. Whoever is without sin cast the first stone! Beauty and ugliness is in the eye of the beholder and should not be a rule set by someone else. I fight for freedom for all even if I dislike some parts of it. I keep my mouth shut about those parts I have trouble with(unless I think that they are discriminating) because they have so little consequences for most people. I think that we all should support each other, even if there is something that may be a little different in our thinking.

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    There is a significant variation in how people age. Sun damage to the skin will make you look older. I didn't wear shorts until I was in my late 40s, and by that time I used sunscreen so my legs look really good.

    A thin waist will allow you to wear younger styles. Even better is a thin waist and some exercise for toned muscles, if you want to wear short shorts and crop tops.

    MtFs transitioning late in life will have very young looking boobs.

    Like GGs I check out what other women wear. I quick head to scan look to take in someone's entire outfit. I just had someone smile back at me while I did a check out while walking past someone in the hallway at work.
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    Honestly I could wear a super short mini skirt and a crop top but I have the common sense not to.
    Some things are appropriate and some are not.
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    When the question of age, as a male, comes up in conversation, and I reply I'm 84 (85 in 2 weeks), I generally get .. no way! Their guess is usually 65ish. When girly with wig and makeup, I think I look to be 55ish. That's quite a change! So, I dress how I feel I look, and not age appropriate. I only wear minis at home.

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    Steffi,
    Very interesting proposal for a thread.
    First of all, we all look younger with make up.
    Second, age is what our spirit , personality, mind says.
    When you start behaving according to your age is because you're conforming to the others opinion.
    We as crossdressers or trans, start late in life our development as woman. I remember my first dresses and attires were like a teenager, then I read on the book titled Alicia in genderland, written by a psiquiatrist, I forget his name now, that we are girls teenager in our femenine mi d development.
    A probe of the last is myself. I'm 60 on September ut dressed people tells me I'm on my forties, even friends that know me before my transition.
    Now, I do t dress like a teenager but I identified myself and dress as a woman in her forties.
    Lastly, as your wife wisely says, our biggest fears never happen.
    I'm still married to the same woman after 40 years with 3 married boys, nothing that took me the sleep for years really happened and things happened completely opposite if what I thought.
    Finally, we can't read minds, so who cares what people thinks when I'm in bikini on the beach if in feel great?
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    Steffi, dress in what ever you're comfortable in. I tend to like classic dresses which you will see on older women, so I dress age appropriate. But that's what I am comfortable in. All said, I won't be wearing a bodycon dress.
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    If your 60 and look between 40 and 45 and you dress like that, not sure I wouldn't call that dressing appropriately.
    PS based on your rules not sure there is a big difference in a way a nicely dress 60 year old and a nice dressed 40.

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    Many years ago in the "Playboy Interview" Clint Eastwood said, "A lot of people are old before their time because they think old". I have always remembered that and tried to apply it to my life. Am 70 now. As for dressing, dress how you like. I like to look younger than my age so I do. Also in male mode I look younger than my age partly because of luck and partly because I have been active and plan to stay active as long as I can. Sherrii

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    Allie, if you just want to throw out any standards of fashion and good taste, then yeah sure wear whatever you want. But most girls here want to dress in a way that they can go out in public and NOT be humiliated and mocked, and that’s who I’m addressing. I’m not telling you that you can’t wear what you like, I’m saying there are societally accepted standards that will keep you from getting laughed at, but if you’re an exhibitionism fetishist, or a cultural anarchist, then that’s your thing.

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    Your stated age is 66 years old. Just look around on the street at women who are your approximate age. What are those women wearing? Are 66 year old grandmothers dressing like their 16 year old granddaughters? Probably not. If they are what sort of looks or comments are they getting from the people around them? From what I have observed they are usually not well received. In your question/thread you already set up some standards which reflect "age appropriateness." What men and women wear at any age and also to any function usually is dictated in some way by societal norms and expectations.

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    Why do these discussions always devolve into us versus them, the ‘enlightened’ vs the micro mini wearing freak show. I have never, ever seen a CD out during the day dressed like a teenager. Every single time a thread like this raises its perfectly blended head above water, we get the “I dress like the women around me” crowd setting up straw men.

    As far as I’m concerned:
    - creativity is good
    - you can be appropriate and not dress like everyone else
    - dress as you look. Look 30? Dress like you’re 30
    - people hate being being outdone. Sometimes you get flak simply for looking nice when everyone else is in jeans

    “In a world full of trends, I want to remain a classic” - Iman

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    Dressing appropriately kind of applies to everyone.

    One time on business in Minneapolis, I was walking in the mall of America. There was a teenaged GG who was wearing the shortest micro mini that I'd ever seen. It was about 4 inches shorter than "daisy duke" shorts, and barely covered her butt. She would walk about 10 steps and then tug the back of the skirt down again.

    I'm kind of embarrassed about this now, but I followed about 20 feet behind her. If she was going to put on a show in public, why shouldn't I be able to watch it.

    After a while, on an older woman walked up to her and appeared to chastise her for her inappropriate outfit. I couldn't hear the conversation, but this it what I gathered from the body language.
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    I agree you can look great dressing a little under your real age but not too much. It’s so sad to see a couple of guys in my town going out trying to look like dolly birds when they are old men. People giggle and stare. I hate to see that. One of them wears mini skirts and stilettos. If he toned it down and got a decent wig he’d look ok. I’m super careful to dress tastefully and take all the advice that’s offered by my wife and friends who I go out with dressed. My lady friends say I’m just one of them when we go out. If I turned up in a short skirt trying to look too young they wouldn’t go out with me. I really love buying slightly more mature ladies outfits and blending in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelaYVR View Post
    - you can be appropriate and not dress like everyone else
    Isn’t this the thrust of this entire thread? What is “appropriate”?

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    I’m glad you asked that, Micki. Appropriate is one of those ethereal things that [most] people just know but can’t be quantified very easily. It shifts. But do most people agree that Outfit X is ok? Of course, over time inappropriate things can attain that vaunted switch over to acceptable (ie, form fitting yoga pants as daily wear). However, I do believe there is a chasm between appropriate and tasteful. Most clothing these days fulfills the former while failing miserably at the latter. In my humble opinion, of course. Ok, not so humble.

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    I wouldn’t say that the clothing fails at being tasteful. I would say that it’s more common for people to fail at wearing clothes tastefully.

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    I started to wear new hair in my natural color (white, couldn't you just die?). I think it looks more natural with the Paula Wig "angel hair" colored wig than my normal red.

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    When a mature woman wears clothes worn by younger women (there is no such thing as 10-15 years difference in clothing styles ... it goes by generation), I think she looks rather desperate ... as if she has not come to terms with who she is.

    There's no difference between 60 and 50. Or 50 and 40. Or 40 and 30 etc. But there's a huge difference between 60 and 30. Or 50 and 20.

    Like it or not, there is a time and age for everything:

    https://i2.wp.com/www.danceshistoric...pg?w=770&ssl=1

    Women in their younger years, who have visibly younger bodies and faces, are in the attracting-a-mate and wanting-to-make-babies part of their lives. And their style of dress reflects this. Mature women, well past that stage, look rather desperate when they attempt to dress the same way. IMO
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    There are many here on the forum who are in their fifties, sixties and beyond. I look around in the real world and see a fair number of genetic women in our age group who dress age appropriately, but are not particularly "feminine" or stylish. Those who are more feminine and stylish often wear things that would often/usually be worn by younger women. Age appropriateness as a test of style seems no more legitimate than 'gender' appropriateness for a crossdresser.

    The things I tend to choose for myself are generally simple and less dramatic than what others might wear. But, many of the things that catch my eye are from the juniors department. I'm not trying to impress or attract others so appropriateness is not something I concern myself with other than to suit my wife's comfort level.
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    Interesting thread. There are certain items I buy with no intention of wearing them out. (not as much anymore) I would hope that what I am wearing looks suitable for the age I appear to be. (I'll be posting some more soon so I'll ask opinions) If I had the chance to wear some of the clothes I want to when I was younger maybe I would feel a bit different. Its like condensing 30 years of dressing into 10. I hope that makes sense. I just wish I had opportunities to wear some of the dresses I have, out. It's very difficult to find occasions and time to get away for that.

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    All these posts remind me about a description of pornography: "I can't define it, but I know when I see it."

    Maybe a similar definition applies to (non) age appropriate.
    Hi, I'm Steffi and I'm a crossdresser... And I accept and celebrate both sides of me. Or, maybe I'm gender fluid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bea_ View Post
    There are many here on the forum who are in their fifties, sixties and beyond. I look around in the real world and see a fair number of genetic women in our age group who dress age appropriately, but are not particularly "feminine" or stylish. Those who are more feminine and stylish often wear things that would often/usually be worn by younger women.
    I think we may need more accurate descriptions, preferably with pictures. A dress is feminine or stylish. And yes, both older and younger women can wear dresses. But there's a difference between body-hugging, short dresses that a younger woman might wear, and a slightly looser, longer, more skin covering but still stylish and feminine dress that an older woman might wear.

    Look at the difference between these age groups:

    Dresses for younger women:
    https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1AA8mH...Xq6xXFXXXb.jpg
    https://www.lulus.com/images/product...4812.jpg?w=560

    Dresses for older women:
    https://www.outfittrends.com/wp-cont...lder-Women.jpg
    https://24myfashion.com/2016/wp-cont...016-2017-9.jpg


    And here's a woman in her 70s wearing a skirt (or is it loose pants - I can't tell but it doesn't matter), who is also feminine and fashionable! And she's not trying to look 20. I don't think I'm allowed more than 5 links per page, so you'll have to copy and paste this in a browser window:

    https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/03/19/arisethcohen_009_custom-7463a651ce088095479b8badbea723ab8f44690a-s800-c85.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
    There's no difference between 60 and 50. Or 50 and 40. Or 40 and 30 etc. But there's a huge difference between 60 and 30. Or 50 and 20
    By that logic, you just unintentionally summarized that there is indeed no difference between 60 and 30!

    But let’s be honest, age is just a piece of the puzzle. Body shape plays a massive role. And I would even go so far as to suggest that attractiveness does, too: I’ve listened to a group of women eviscerate a beautifully dressed but otherwise plain woman. How dare she wear those clothes with that face!

    Ultimately, we’re all just thrusting our opinions on each other here and I can’t see any consensus. My contention is that if you can wear it well then absolutely do it. “Well” being decided by the wearer, naturally. Will we see the occasional mutton dressed as lamb scenario? Most likely. Will it ruin your life? I’m rather doubtful.

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    Angela,
    Maybe to put Reine's words in more blunt terms , do you really want to spend that much money to look that stupid ??

    There is another side to Reine's comments , on occasions I wonder if a young girl might want to be a little older and more mature to wear some of the clothes she would be be called names for by her friends . There are some beatiful clothes to suit all ages the real art is making the right choice , style is far more important .
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    I've always been fortunate enough to look younger than my years.
    With makeup and a wig on, I can look a few years younger again, so I can dress to the age that I appear to be and get away with it. I certainly wouldn't wear (in public) what very young women wear, because I don't think it would work.
    So age appropriate really means appropriate to the age you are perceived to be.

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