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    When I first started going out I tried to avoid large crowds so I would go out early mornings or late nights.
    Because the places I went to weren't busy, it seemed everybody looked at me and I would get paranoid!! So believe it
    or not, I changed my thinking and went out into very busy places and the opposite happened... nobody even looked my way...
    I felt so much more comfortable in busy places! I guess you can get lost in a crowd!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatgirl417 View Post
    I guess I should have said that I still live in the same small that I grew up in... everybody knows everybody. I don?t really care what others think of me. I just don?t want my s.o getting grief from anyone that recognizes me. Iv thought about going to the closes big city but I know quite a few people that live in the area too.
    The nearest big city is likely a good bet. To ease the butterflies, first, think about how unlikely it is that you will meet someone you know at random in any moderately sized town especially if you are not doing what you usually would do there. Second, read some of the many posts here where people talk about meeting someone they know in close proximity and are not recognized. Finally, imagine seeing a male friend you know dressed as you intend to dress and ask yourself would you really be sure it was your friend. I?m guessing the answer is that the closest you might get is ?she looks a little like my friend? and then you would convince yourself it was coincidence. The real give away that has to be avoided in that situation is some very recognizable thing associated with you like the car that Di mentioned in a previous post, walking next to your SO, etc.

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    That Girl

    It's too bad that you didn't post where you live in your profile, we could have offered more advice.

    Kari and I met FtF at the Keystone Conference in Harrisburg PA. One night we went out with a large group of girls (maybe 30) to a Mexican restaurant. Another night, I went out with about 10 girls to Carrabas. I also went out on an after hours shopping trip to Dressbarn with a lot of girls.

    I'm in a social group in DC, and we get a big group of girls together every couple of months. We always have girls coming out for the first time, or the first time to our DC group. There's always someone to meet you at your car, walk in with you and introduce you to the other girls. I've done that myself.

    Maybe find yourself a group in Meetup or something or g to a conference.

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    Hey That Girl,

    I recently had my debut with some very long time friends at dinner at their house. It was scary and exhilarating at the same time. I definitely have the bug to get outside dressed too! I'm thinking I might make my first outing as Caylee to Soma. I have bought so many nice dresses there and the ladies there have always been so helpful trying to find what works for me. I feel that would be the safest way to start venturing out since they already know me.

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    As I've mentioned previously, on a Sunday, go to the (usually very empty) parking lot of an office complex. Get your cell phone out and walk around as if you were talking to some one. After, as did I, go to a drive thru and order something. You may be clocked but so what. They don't know you, and you'll drive away. It gets easier once you get comfortable in being your femme self. Also, there are many great suggestions by your sisters.

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    Thanks for all the feedback! I see going out in my near future!

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    Hi That.

    As many others have stated, dressing to blend in is important. I often "overdressed' in the past. Don't be so concerned about not being seen that you put yourself in bad spots. Going out at night to remote, dimly lit areas isn't always the best idea.

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    My experience has been very similar to Helen_Highwater's. I started driving after dark, then window shopping after dark, eventually taking a deep breath and going into stores. I also have found that I am much more comfortable in a crowd, e.g., Macy's on the weekend 10 day before Christmas. Everybody is on their own trek in life at that moment and nobody has either time for or interest in you. All the other advice re dressing to blend is right on. I'm still having problems going face to face with sales associates, but that's just me. Good luck.

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    My first was a daylight drive with no wig and no make up! I drove to a local park and right past two police officers who looked at me and then the other way! I had to stop for a flagman at some road repair going on and he looked right at me and...nothing! I had checked the neighborhood out before going to the car and when I returned! Everybody must have been at work!
    You have to plan it out and just do it! Most people who know you, are looking for male you not a "female" you! Remember though, once you are out, you are out and it only gets better!
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    As already staled.. dress your age and for where you are going.


    Yes, the first time can be scary. The key is to not be nervous and act like any female would. You must convince your self that you are just wearing the clothes that any female would.
    If you act nervous and are constantly acting like you are doing something wrong, people will think that you are indeed doing something wrong.

    No, you need not interact with others but do not avoid them either .

    One you realize that no one will point. laugh, or pay the slightest attention to you , it can be a real revelation.



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    My first time out and about started with a make-up session. I found someone that helped me with the first serious attempt at make-up. She gave me the confidence I needed to venture out for the first time. It was a great day!

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    I've only been out TWICE--The first time was to an Adult Sunday School Halloween Party (I was a Gypsy Fortune teller) and the second was A Church Sponsored "Womanless Beauty Contest". It is quite EASY to go out when you have a GOOD EXCUSE. -----But there is (to me) a fine line between Courage and Foolhardiness, in going out dressed on ordinary occasions--No WAY at ALL for ME!

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    I wish it was still as exciting as the first time! I don't even remember my first time. Enjoy!

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    My very first time dressing in public was at a gay bar that was having a TG event. I arrived too early and it turned out that I was the only CD in the place. But there were only a few gay men there so it wasn't too terribly stressful.

    I remember getting out of the car in the parking lot and feeling nervous. And I was paranoid on the way there because I was driving dressed. It's kind of like showing up at a costume party where no one else wore a costume!

    One other CD showed up eventually and we sat together chatting until others showed up. She actually turned out to be transexual which I found intriguing. We hugged goodbye when it was time for me to leave.

    When I look back now there was really nothing to be afraid of. Go out dressed in another town if you fear someone will recognize you.
    "You're the only one to see the changes you take yourself through", Stevie Wonder

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    I'll second what Steffi said. Find a group (see meetup dot com) and go with them. It makes it so much easier not being the only CDer in the room.
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    This is the story of what happened to me my very first outing. That was 3 or so years ago. I am having a blast when i go out and I'm still skittish and aware of my surroundings. Enjoy.

    Incident at Tow Truck Bluff

    RozDate April 22, 2017

    My unexpected date with a tow truck driver - First time out in drag

    Or 2nd title - Roz goes out on a 3 hour tour.....

    You are not going to believe this. And, I don't have any pics to prove it. So.... did this happen? I'm home now, 2:30am now, drinking the beers i was supposed to be drinking at the GNO event, finally getting the story down while I'm a bit loopy and safe at home.

    I had been looking forward to going out, for the first time, in Roz mode.

    Couple miles from my turn off at Northwest Hwy going south on 75, I noticed something wrong with lights. Dash lights dimming and headlights working or not, could not tell with all the lights on highway 75. Barely got off the busy highway onto Northwest Hwy by North Park Mall. Felt like there was something wrong with the transmission too, like I ran out of fluid. Almost stalled out on the street in front of the mall. Drove through mall traffic with no lights and found a place to stop -- when the car just died. ker-plunk.

    Sat in car, contemplating my next move. Car battery dead, no friend to call on cell phone, and no smart phone to get info for a tow or a taxi back home. Sitting in the drivers seat of a busy parking lot at a major shopping mall in Dallas. Freak out looms large.

    Gotta check under the hood. Yesterday i had the car in for an inspection. What did they do? I noticed they didn't close the hood fully latched when driving home it popped open and only the emergency latch kept the hood from flying up, hitting the windshield.

    My expectation was to get out of the car at the parking lot of the venue i was going to, not a shopping mall. My intention was to remain way under the radar this evening. I made it into the car the 4 feet from my back gate at home with no neighborhood security cams capturing the elusive Roz-a-Lope. Fast as fast can be, cant catch Roz. Till now.

    Opened hood to have a look around, nothing obvious. Then a mall security guard rolls up in her little golf cart kinda vehicle. Was a young woman. She saw my car parked catty wonkers in a couple spots and me poking my head under the hood..... in a cute dress with mary jane heels. She absolutely helped me get started in solving my dilemma. Hooked me up with a couple tow service phone numbers using her smart phone - I so gotta get a smart phone.

    First tow service i called was able to dispatch, about an hour wait. I actually had an hour and a half to wait in my car contemplating my situation. How my car got screwed up, blaming inspection people. Ended up being my alternator, so the inspection people are off my blame list. Sowwy inspection people, my bad.

    Well into the wait, I have to peeeeeee. wait wait wait. can't stand it. This is not good. wait till the security cars have gone through and take a gamble at a near by wall. Walked about 40 feet to find my relief spot, hiking up a skirt, dropping my pantyhose and panties so i can pee on the parking lot wall, in a well lit parking lot - an absolutely absurd moment. I stopped short of full relief, repacked myself and left a puddle. as I got walked half way back to my car a security car came through and drove right by me and stopped, asked me if that was my car. He had heard that I was having problems from the other security people. That mall rocks for really good security. He moved on and didn't notice the puddle I had just left on his parking lot wall.

    About an hour into the wait I noticed the battery was recovering, figured I better wait to try to start the engine later if needed.

    Tow truck driver shows up and calls me on cell phone, but cannot get into the parking area I'm parked at because of low height bars. The car cranks up and I drive over to where the tow truck is, through 11pm mall traffic, did a movie just get out? People and cars everywhere. I got no lights, trying to drive through all this to where the tow driver parked, right up front, by the side of the main doors of the shopping mall. UGGSSS. gotta be done... I have the car maneuvered behind the tow truck and sit in the car waiting for him to set up, its a full carry tow truck, good. I eventually have to exit the car. So, there I am in my feminine cuteness, dress, mary jane heels, wig, and my purse. Every one exiting the mall and milling about watching the tow driver hooking up my car, and me standing there watching too. I think i am so far out of my closet as I ever will be.

    Did i mention it is cold out, had a storm system move through the day before and chilled everything down to the upper 50s. I'm getting cold.

    On the drive back to my house the tow driver never batted an eye, just like the lady security guard, wonderfully professional, both of them, and helped me out in a really weird situation. Driver and I chatted on the way to my house, topics of which I cannot remember, very personable. He never pried or got curious, Super cool.

    Dreading the moment we would pull up to the front of my house. That damn truck of his had no suspension and I had to pee again. While he let down my car I walked up to a dark spot in my yard and had a good pee. Shivers of cold and relief. Didn't see my neighbors, but all the racket the tow truck was making had to make someone peek out a window, with me in the street (did i mention there is a street light right there too, bright), asking, who is that girl bringing back my neighbors car busted on a tow truck...

    So, here i am, almost 4 in the morning now, another beer to go. Were I to lay down and try to sleep I still don't think I'd get there.

    I'm starting a store for all my adventures...

    Roz's Antics Shoppe for Moments
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertacd View Post
    Just relax and remember nobody really cares.
    I highlighted Roberta's comment although there are many others of a similar nature. I put my two cents in about my personal adventures and limitations (#4). One cannot make a universal statement that "nobody really cares" because sometimes there is "somebody who cares." Why are there two cases before the United States Supreme Court this session concerning the rights of transgender men and women and gays and lesbians? Obviously, somebody cared enough to fire someone because of their sexual identity and sexual orientations. There are consequences to not conforming to societal norms and expectations. Yes, over the years those norms and expectations can change and do change, but, sometimes they do not change.

    Progress in your comfort zone. I and nobody on this site knows of anyone's particular circumstances and relationships. What is good for an old retired fart like me (72) may not be good for a young up and coming executive. Remember you alone, and, not anyone on this forum, bares the consequences of their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulaprimo View Post
    When I first started going out I tried to avoid large crowds so I would go out early mornings or late nights.
    Because the places I went to weren't busy, it seemed everybody looked at me and I would get paranoid!! So believe it
    or not, I changed my thinking and went out into very busy places and the opposite happened... nobody even looked my way...
    I felt so much more comfortable in busy places! I guess you can get lost in a crowd!

    One way I describe it is hiding in plain sight. Forget being dressed for a minute and think about how many people you actually look at when moving through a crowd. Those you do look at it's more a cursory glance than any real inspection. You tend to be more intent on not bumping into others, picking your way through the mass of bodies plus half of those there will be facing the other way so as long as how your dressed doesn't make you stand out, folks don't pay you any real attention.
    Who dares wears Get in, get out without being noticed

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    This is the story of my very first time out, July 2018. As you'll read, it was perfect for my first time out, largely because the month before I had already joined a local CD group (Tri Ess) and met them at a monthly meeting (in drab) and one of them in particular (Aunt Kelly) gave me advice concerning a make over and a wig store. If you have a local or nearby CD group you can join, I highly recommend it, at least for support in your first few times out in public, as I did.
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    The July meeting of the Tri Ess Chapter was my first time out dressed. The day before I purchased a wig at Ruby?s Wig Salon, where Cheryl was very helpful and supportive, and I purchased a dress at Ross that was exactly the style I wanted for my debut! This was after several long shopping trips over the past few weeks with my partner (Lisa) looking for the perfect dress, but coming up empty, and purchasing two wigs over the internet that were too difficult to style to make me feel confident in them. Shoes (heels) are my thing, so I already had lots of them and it was just a matter of deciding which pair to wear for this event.

    Two hours before the Tri Ess meeting I had my first professional makeover with Brook at her apartment, she was awesome. This was only the second time I have worn makeup, and I wanted it to be done in private, so this was perfect. Lisa came along to watch and take notes. It took about 90 minutes, and afterwards I got dressed at Brook?s in my outfit for the evening, and then Lisa and I headed to the Tri Ess meeting at a place called "Hair Psychiatry".

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    Photo taken that night.

    Even though I only started crossdressing about 5 months prior, I was not nervous walking into the meeting to be seen by about a dozen people all at once. This is because my experience at the previous Tri Ess meeting (in drab) was totally positive and supportive. The next two hours went by quickly, but I felt comfortable the whole time, receiving several nice compliments on my look.

    The encouragement and help I received from Tri Ess in those early days was been amazing, and from experience I can now say that their meetings are the perfect venue for a crossdresser to come out for the first time because everyone knows exactly what you are going through and is 100% supportive. I am thankful to all the Tri Ess members, and in particular Aunt Kelly who referred me to Brook for makeup, and Cheryl at Ruby?s Wig salon. My partner, Lisa, has been supportive and understanding beyond my wildest dreams! Finally, I believe that for those people who are not as lucky as I am to have a supportive partner, a local CD group will be an even more critical support group that they should lean on.

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    Here are my thoughts... I didn't go all out the 1st time. My 1st was only ladies pants, flats and a sweater. No one batted an eye. If you go crazy then expect people to notice. Dress to blend for a while. Observe what other girls are wearing and try to copy the look. I don't think any GG wears a tight dress and 4" pumps to go grocery shopping.
    Today, I wore my skinny Levi's, a Lauren sweater and vest along with my Justin ladies boots (totally underdressed with Spanx). I went shopping then went to my favourite thrift store. I bought 3 rings (all were cubic sadly after testing them). The cashier said I must be asking a lot of ladies to marry me (even with my attire). I tried one on and it fit my ring finger. I openly said "| can at least feel engaged." The clerk just laughed. Long story short, they've seen it all. As for the rings, I took a gamble. All three were a total of $32. If one was real I would be happy. As they say ...high risk high rewards. Even though they weren't real, I still have 3 gorgeous rings to wear.

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    Hello, dear!

    I asked the very same question here a long time ago, and the support I received here helped me a lot not only with accepting my feminine companion (it's not just a "side", I prefer "my best friend ever"), but also to resolve some very deep and serious issues in my life and in my family.

    My first time out was one of the hardest things I ever imagined. I've been preparing for it so many times, and each of them was ending right at the front door. After almost an year of failing attempts I finally succeeded by literally forcing myself out with a single though in my head - "shut up and just do it". Then I got on the street looking as a scared little kitten. At least I felt this way. I started walking slowly through the square (I cursed myself for living in the town's center), making my way to the nearest dark street, and speeding up my pace. My feet were trembling and it took all of my power to keep walking normally in my heels (which I also cursed). Yeah, I got a bunch of looks at me, I got the creeps and I was screaming inside "let's go back home, I am terrified that something might happen". All I heard back in my head was "really? Let it happen. I'll deal with it.". I got to a darker alley and I then realized it. I was a damn hot chick, I felt like one, I got attention, because I looked awesome, which was actually the whole idea. Why on Earth would I get out dressed up as a girl? Why the makeup? Why the whole thing at all? I needed attention and I got it. I manned up, I walked around for twenty more minutes and on my way back I really didn't care, when I passed through the square again. Didn't even notice if there were any looks at all - my head was already filled with my regular to-do stuff. I got home and cooked a nice homemade sushi set. I felt wonderful after the whole experience!

    As with anything else - either you do it or you don't. Saying that, I've been preparing for a walk around the neighborhood for the whole day, and after finishing some work at home I finally got out at 5:30 PM (it's EEST, I am from Bulgaria). Although I still have concerns about "what IF someone recognizes me" and I have a swift direct answer to that - "so what?", I always keep in mind I might need to defend myself, because there are still a lot of people around here being a bit hostile to those who are... different, and they openly say it. I must share that as a man in my occasional outfit (going to work, hang out, etc.) I feel nearly invincible and I show my total carelessness to everything around me, and that actually helps a lot. Yeah, I learned to act like them, because years ago I would not exist as a girl, literally. Anyway, regarding overall attention -one of my neighbors saw me the other day on the stairs - short black skirt, thick black pantyhose, over-knee black leather boots, satin black shirt, a bit messy haircut - just quickly looked all over me and immediately started buzzing his phone. That much of an interest. They certainly don't care. Or maybe it was the all-in-black look, I don't know. Nor I actually care, frankly.

    After all - it's all inside our minds, but of course, like in some of my cases, seeing a gorgeous-looking girl (I love being one!) walking around with no obvious direction in the middle of the night definitely attracts attention. Yeah, I get a lot of "offers". I generally do prefer the "shadows" way, both as a man and a woman, and it is a just personal preference. But I have to admit - staying in the open regardless how you look makes you less interesting that lurking in the shadows, especially for the patrolling police cars. I had one driving slowly after me and once I got under the street lights they just got past me. Anyway, blending is not an easy task, but the important thing is to not overthink it.

    Not long ago I did a comparison between Grace and "the regular" me, I shortened it down to the following conversation:
    1. What do you do to blend in? -Nothing. Never thought about it.
    2. How do you deal with people staring at you? -Do they?
    3. Okay, what if anyone asks you something or simply speaks to you? -Well, reply back?
    4. Fine, if they become aggressive?! -Usually I'd try to quickly talk my way out of it, then - run. If necessary - call the police, fight back. What world are you living in, anyway?!
    5. Don't you have any concerns when you are on the street? Whatever these might be? -Yes, of course - the high possibility of an asteroid hitting Earth ending all life on it. And getting my wage, so I can live long enough to see it, while drinking a glass of Jack. What are yours?
    Silence.

    Eventually, this sealed my concerns for good. They were all unreal. It turned out my feminine companion was nothing more than a growing kid that needed guidance. So, a "first walk out as a girl" would be like a baby having its first steps, right? It takes time and effort, and each moment is really worth it.

    A side note here, though - recently I started getting out at around 6AM or 7AM and to my surprise - no one even looked at me! That ringed a bell - who the hell cares what's going on at such an hour? I certainly don't. I am sleeping with my eyes open and I just get to work. Everyone was exactly like that, as was I an hour later, when I had to run to work, being late because I had a ton of makeup to remove... Aaaand, I am still wondering why the female me is so eager to go out for walks, while the male me prefers staying at home, but that's another story. Saying that - I'm getting late for my evening walk!

    Anyway, if you have at least one person to support you - you got it all. Talk to them, share, get them in a car, go somewhere no one knows you, have a good time. Good friends always help a lot, and that's exactly what friends are for.

    Apologies for the wall of text!

    Wish you a lot of fun, lovely!

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    Great advice and suggestions above. I did the "baby steps" method.

    Started by staying in hotels.

    Dress in my room, go nowhere.

    After a while, go out for ice or drink from a machine and walk the hallways. Maybe ride the elevator a few floors and hope no surprise when the doors open. One time, the door opened and I was confronted by a group of airline pilots/flight attendants getting on. I just smiled and waited for my stop (it was an eternity). Another time, I got to my floor and there was a very large tour group waiting to get on as I exited. Never did catch the reaction.

    Go outside and walk around the parking lot.

    Go outside and get in car and go for a ride. Maybe stop at a fast food drive through.

    I did this one time and when I got back, my magnetic key did not work. Was trying to make I work and a guy down the hall from me was having the same issue. He told me this happens all the time and I would need to go to the desk to get a new key. He offered to walk me down. I softly told him my friend was in the room and I would knock to get in. He shrugged and went on his way. I went to my car, waited a bit for the man to return to his room and went to the front desk. Asked for and got a new key. No drama, the world did not end. Was I nervous, yes. Was my heart beating hard, yes. It in the end, it was no big deal.

    Walk around an ATM or post office.

    Actually go into the fast food place and order. Did this one time on a week long business trip, th
    e Second time through, the drive in person complimented my outfit and asked if I would be a regular. Told them no and moved on. Again not much drama, just nerves on my side.

    Go to a stand alone store and buy things.

    Go to the mall. Walk around. Later, go to and browse and try on clothes.

    Stop at the self serve gas station and fuel up.

    Each step will confirm that the world will not end!

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    Amazing story Roz. What did you finally find was wrong with your car?
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    Roz:

    You?re obviously getting out just fine now. Met you the other night at the DFE meetup and you looked great! There are a few DFE girls that post on this website.
    Hugs, Zoey

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    I chose to make my maiden voyage (no pun intended) over a Pride weekend. It felt reassuring to see other people being themselves. I even went to a couple of stores where I was known for years. The feeling of being there dressed was exhilarating, fun, and a bit terrifying. I didn't leave home dressed. I left home early and changed in the bathroom of a local college's art department.

    Until you decide where and when to come out, spend time picking the kind of outfit you want to wear. Invest in a pair of fem looking sunglasses to wear outdoors or in situations where you might want to avoid eye contact. If you must wear high heels the first time out, bring some comfortable shoes as a backup for when your feet get tired. If you have supportive friends that know, maybe you'd like to include them and go out as a group.

    Whatever you do, be sure to have some fun. Good luck.
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