What are your thoughts on how to look nice while presenting as male and wearing a skirt?
What are your thoughts on how to look nice while presenting as male and wearing a skirt?
Kelly
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I think it is a difficult thing to do in the Western World. In many other places it is much more acceptable. I have found that even a kilt is often read as an attempt to break the rule of pants for men and whatever for women. I have a hiking kilt I sometimes wear on hikes or even walks in the city. It is like a magic potion that tends to make you invisible to many. On the trail it is more acceptable.
That said, I am sure there are ways you can make it work well. After all there is that fellow in Germany named Mark who gets along very nicely in corporate life with feminine from the waist down and masculine from the waist up. So, it can be done. Maybe it just takes a lot of courage. Personally, I think he looks great and very acceptable. But then I am biased.
The Mark that Gretchen referred to is our own Mark B who just recently was featured in many newspapers for his wearing skirts and heels.
Crissy
My thoughts are, I wouldn't do it.
Wearing a skirt while otherwise presenting as a male will only call attention to yourself and not in a good way. If you have a family or job that you care about, it would be a bad idea.
Krisi
While some may enjoy that and the attention it garners it's not something I wish to do.
My presentation is all female. I have no desire to be seen any other way even if I do wear women's t's and jeans and shoes now and then when not in full female mode.
I don't wear women's clothes, I wear MY clothes !
I have been toying with this idea. I disagree with Kristi and Cheryl. I think others would be more inclined to accept a male presenting as such in a skirt as a quirky style or maybe an expression of some femininity. You might get a second look but might not get the stares or snickers if clocked as a cd when in full attire. I think if more of us were bold enough to do it it would start to be acceptable.
I would not do it in a professional environment depending on where you work. But out running errands pairing the skirt with a complimentary top might be just the balance you need to express both sides of yourself.
The shoes are where I hit a block. I guess it would depend on the type of skirt. I have a jean skirt that I wear often. If I were to go out with it I?d probably just wear my male sneakers or sandals. But if it was a dressier skirt I might want to wear more fem shoes.
All this to say. If the skirt seems to go with the rest of the outfit, I think it is an unconventional but acceptable fashion choice.
My thoughts are please don't.
It's hard enough for transwomen to be accepted without guys running around in skirts for fun.
If you absolutely must wear a skirt in otherwise male mode, wear a Utilikilt.
Last edited by Robertacd; 11-10-2020 at 10:47 AM.
Wow! I never expected these responses!
If you want to wear a skirt as a man I can't think of a better example than Mark. I can't imagine any bad confrontations, at least any worse than many here presenting as a woman and don't pass.
Kelly, if you do it, do it with style.
I would love to wear a skirt, stocking and heals in Miad mode, with a Ben Sherman, every day That would be my dream.
I am just a guy who love's female attire, I don't claim to be anything else, but I know it would not be accepted as anything like standard male attire.
This is a shame really a person should be able to wear anything they want casual, formal and work, it all about being comfortable and happy with how you present.
I am lucky that over the years playing sport being told that for a bloke I have great legs and these, and once they are exposed below a shirt, in some nice stockings and shoes I must admit I am happy with the look.
I say wear your skirt with pride. I love skirts and dresses and I like seeing them worn by men or women as long as it's done tastefully. It is not necessary to be trans(anything) to wear female clothes.
As kilt wearer i have been following this thread, do wonder if those who sugest wearing a kilt understand how heavy &expensive they are (a good kilt that is ) true its possable to get a knock around kilt for ?20. I came across a Cargo kilt on Ebay &bought one (for hill walking) they are fairly heavy but can take the wear &tear of rough walking . So here's what they look like--they have two external pockets (no need of a Sporran ! ) perhaps of some interest here--cargo kilt.jpg
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The only problem with this approach is that it makes other people's ignorance the responsibility of the wearer. Assuming things about trans people based on seeing a guy in a skirt is a flaw of the observer, not the observed.
I think you are right Violet. The discussion has veered off of the original subject. Often happens. It is interesting but maybe it would be good to return to the original subject of a MAN wearing a skirt.
It's appropriateness is culturally related, but I don't think appropriateness is part of the subject either. It seems to be more of a question of just doing it. Is it cross-dressing related? Depends on the reason the person is doing it. Wearing a kilt is usually a very masculine thing but sometimes it can be a substitute for a skirt. Kilts are a special kind of skirt. Roman soldiers wore a kind of skirt and it was often kind of a mini-skirt length. Not everything that involves clothes involves gender expression. It can be just a preference. But if you want it to be a gender expression then more power to you. Wear the skirt with pride and I think Mark B looks great even if some are shocked or offended. It is confusing, but not to Mark B or apparently Mark B's colleagues at the engineering firm in Germany where Mark B is employed. (Note: see how pronouns become difficult when there is gender uncertainty? Is a Scotsman in full military dress - kilt, shoes, socks, sporan, hat, etc - saying he is a girl? Certainly not, but in a Argentina (for example) maybe so. But even there one can't be sure. Point is don't assume or read things into it that may not be there.)
Wow. Just wow. As a "life long" cross dresser, up until this year, I'd ventured out literally a couple of times. In the dark. Usually in the car. In the past month/6 weeks, I've finally summoned the will/nerve to go out. In broad daylight, "fully" cross dressed, out and about, shopping etc. Not just clothing stores, but the mall, grocery store etc. As yes, sometimes I've worn a skirt (probably about 50% of the time actually).
I'm not passable. I did wonder if "I was betraying the sisterhood" by not being passable? But you know what? I'm not.
OK, I'm "careful" where and when I go, and, so far, nothing has happened, and nothing has been said. I KNOW some people have looked. And, I'm amazed that I don't really care. (I've also had a Ma'am and a Miss directed at me...)
Kelly, you have one life to live. My advice to you, is the advice I gave to myself, just be careful out there. You could run into someone who doesn't approve of your clothing choices. Running into it here? I guess that's what the "Add to Ignore List" is for...
I was at a shopping centre recently and saw a young man wearing a skirt and presenting as a MIAD.
If wearing skirts or dresses, most male shoes wouldn't really look as good with them if presenting as a MIAD but there are plenty of more androgynous sorts of shoes that would work.
Some sort of bags would be necessary because of the general lack of pockets in ladies clothes
My legs are just very nice to look at; Therefore,my skirt or dress wearing will stay at home.
Rader
I am an ardent MIAD. As someone else said, it comes down to confidence. After several years of careful tutoring by a group of very talented dress store SAs, I know I can put together an outfit that works with my figure and makes me look tasteful and presentable. My interactions with women while I'm out in the real world confirm this. No one who has ever spoken to me has ever appeared uncomfortable. Rather, the vibe I get is that I am accepted into the world of women, not necessarily as a full card carrying member, but as an honorary member, who is permitted to speak about things women just don't discuss with non intimate males. I am accepted, not rejected.
Also, given my physical size, age, and baldness, I truly believe that if I tried to make myself passable, I would be able to convince no one. Unless you are the lucky 1% who have a petite figure and dainty features to start with, women are going to spot the crossdresser in the crowd. As for me, I would be nothing more than a tragic joke. It just wouldn't work, and I have seen enough pictures on this website that confirm how bad it can get. No offense intended, because I think I would be even worse.
No, I do not believe it is necessary to try passing as a woman. Success lies in carefully choosing your clothes, wearing them with confidence and OWNING it
Last edited by suzanne; 11-14-2020 at 07:52 PM.
I vote No. With all that?s going on, the community isn?t ready. One rarely sees a woman wearing a skirt or dress, let alone a guy.
I often did on vacation - not sure I would do it at work (though I am tempted). Mark B does it well - looks sharp and extrudes confidence.
Nancy Sue, You got that right. A skirt or dress, is a nearly extinct thing around most places now.
I couldn?t disagree more with the general consensus expressed below. It all comes down to confidence, just like Mark B. you either live the life you want and embrace it or not, it?s hard but try not to come from fear. I have personally experienced nothing but love and embrace when I wear a skirt out as a guy (yes even with stubble). Again my experience is that it all stems from confidence.
I feel the world is changing and embracing individuality and not conforming to stereotypes is totally acceptable. My kids and there friends don?t bat an eyelid if I?m in a skirt or dress either as a guy or in more feminine facial appearance.
My vote is do as you please and people like Roberta need to rethink their position on these issues. The more people embrace individuality and uniqueness the closer we get to a world of love and acceptance vs. categories, labels, stereotypes and people coming from fear for not conforming.
Hold your head high and wear what the hell you want. Just own it.
If anyone can dress outside the norm it is a talented engineer. There is an enormous amount of pressure to be creative and few can "deliver the goods" consistently.
Yet they get paid far less than what managers make, even though they may be more valuable to the company. And is is easy to identify who is contributing.
And the return on investment often has a short timeline, unlike that of scientists, who's work may take decades to be proven useful.
Marion
Sorry folks, I used to not care until a recent thread in the TG section where someone posted about their but they make sure all the ladies in their swim class know that they are "just a guy out having fun in woman's clothing". You know, nothing to fear.
As I said before, it's exactly stuff like that that TERFs and other transphobes are protesting against.
This might be the most exclusionary thing I have read on this forum. As a MIAD most of the time my CD issues are just as real as anyone else?s. We are not running around in skirts for fun but are trying to find ways to express this CD side of ourselves. Maybe I should just ignore this as some have advised me on another thread. But that would mean that the discrimination I feel goes unchallenged. I have more to say but I will stop here for discretions sake.
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