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    It's like the universe just slapped me

    I have started that I don't really have any problems with how I live. I work in guy mode and live as Jean, pretty simple. I'm out, but I do my best to stick to this.

    This morning at work I get handed a couple papers. I see a thank you card. It is from a customer, nice but nothing really.

    There is another piece of paper, an invitation to the company Christmas party. They have never had one before, and it is at a new house that they just completed, this is a big deal.

    And I'm crying because I can't go. I have been crying ever sense I read it.yes tears running down my face all day at work.

    First I have no guy clothes, just company t-shirts. Even if I manage to some how try and do guy mode in a social setting. The last time I tried it, well I cryed the whole time.

    If I go in a dress, it will end up being all about me. That part I can handle.

    I grew up with the owner and his two brothers, lived across the street. So they see me as a guy. At work that is fine it doesn't bother me.

    But to be in a party dress, and I have meny to choose from, and have a room full of people miss gendering me. I will not be able to handle that.

    All I can come up with is quit or send flowers.

    I guess I do have problems.

    Love Jean

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    Hey Jean,

    Sorry to see you upset but I kind of get it even though my situation is different. I think my Christmas party will be canceled this year but we are usually flown into Nashville every year. I am just so taken by how pretty all the wife?s / girlfriends are at the party and hate that I can not be dressed like them. Two years ago I messed up and had too much to drink and ended up telling a couple of the women about my dressing. Fortunately nothing became of it.

    If it will upset you more to go than to not go, maybe it is not worth going. Hopefully you will find a solution. I almost don?t want to go to mine now.

    Best wishes

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    The simple solution is as we say in the UK, "Throw a sicky". Self isolate due to Covid, winter flu, sickness and well you know what.

    I'm sure others may offer suggestions as well. Just don't let it get to you. Every problem has it's solution.

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    Jean, you say that you're out. Does that mean that the folks at work know about your feminine side?
    If so, why not quietly approach the owner (and others) and ask if it would be OK to come as yourself? You could even even use the "I haven't got a thing to wear" (as a guy) line.

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    Jean,
    What's the worse thing can happen if you finally come out to them ?

    It was very much the dilemma I had when I wanted to rejoin my art group as Teresa , as it turned out it was a non-event , OK I accept it wssn't work related so no risk of losing my job and also they had known about my TG situation for a while .

    Perhaps you don't need to go as far as a party dress , I have a nice sequined top that could be worn with smart trousers or a skirt and possibly get some sparkly flat shoes .

    The other question is are they jumping the gun ? Surely the rules with Covid 19 will still apply , my group has talked about a Xmas party but I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not .
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    Hi Jean, I think you can pull this off, enjoy yourself and stay true to yourself. Maybe a nice pair of slacks and a under the radar top plus some nice shoes.
    I know you well enough that if anyone can do this it is you.
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    Thank you all for your responses.

    I decided to basically do as Sherry said.

    Long sleeve knit top, black leggings, ankle boots. It's a holiday outfit that I have worn before.

    I'll put up some pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean 103 View Post
    Thank you all for your responses.

    I decided to basically do as Sherry said.

    Long sleeve knit top, black leggings, ankle boots. It's a holiday outfit that I have worn before.

    I'll put up some pictures.
    Your outfit sounds great, Jean. Have fun at the party.
    Last edited by char GG; 11-18-2020 at 07:09 AM.

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    Hi Jean,

    You could decline, saying you have some health issues that make it unwise to attend in the middle of the pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean 103 View Post
    There is another piece of paper, an invitation to the company Christmas party. They have never had one before, and it is at a new house that they just completed, this is a big deal

    Even if I manage to some how try and do guy mode in a social setting. The last time I tried it, well I cryed the whole time.

    If I go in a dress, it will end up being all about me. That part I can handle.

    I grew up with the owner and his two brothers, lived across the street. So they see me as a guy. At work that is fine it doesn't bother me.

    Try to see between the black and white. Using the information you provided, I don't think its the best plan to just show up in a dress, since you'd be stealing the thunder from their newly completed house / First Xmas party thing. You cried last time you tried to go in guy mode, so if you went that way anyway after a while you might let a friend see how sad you are about it and could confide in them that you wanted to attend in your preferred attire. Further you could say that you even brought your girl clothes along but left them in the car as you were too afraid, maybe they just might convince you and provide the needed support to push you through. Finally why this might work is due to the fact that you'd be presenting as a woman some time after the party has been rolling along, thus you won't be stealing their thunder, quite the contrary you might end up adding a lot of life to the party. Good luck Jean.
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    Thank you all.

    After a lot more crying I have a plan.

    Everyone at the company know I dress. Some at the main office may not, but that is not a thing.

    The owner and his wife run the company. I talked to her a couple days ago on the phone.

    I already know the dress I would wear. I going to get dressed completely and take a picture. I'm going to send it to her with my request to be introduced by my last name only. My last name is a girl's name. Most already address me this way. I use it when I introduce myself to customers, it is one of the things that help me cope.

    I don't ever ask permission to be me. This is very different, it is my fault for not transitioning at work too.

    There is a little more, they are going to be passing the torch to their son soon everyone knows. I suspect they will announce it at the party. And this is his new house that was just built next door to his parents .

    Again thank you all , most people would not understand.

    Love Jean

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    Jean, Sounds like a good plan, I know you can do this.
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    Jean I have come into this late I admit, but I have read all of the threads, what you are trying to do is a very difficult thing to do especially at the time of year that you are talking about.
    Its all very well for people to say well you dress all of the rest of the time so why not go dressed now and to hell with the consequences, easily said and hard to pick oneself up when it all goes pear shaped. Something like that I would never embark on.
    Your proposed outfit absolutely nails it and I would do exactly the same as you suggest. If as I think I understand you want the whole of your works people to know about your dressing and the possibilty of going full time, then carry some photographs with you, and as time goers by and word spreads explain and show the "new you". Softly and slowly I say.
    My coming out took great courage and took a long to achieve, also I lost some friends along the way, but have made some new ones as well.
    lastly all I can say is good luck, be yourself and enjoy!
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    Jean,
    If it's safe to do so under Covid 19 rules then it maybe a goodtime to finally make the transition at work . Pictures are a useful way to break the ice , I'm sure you're aware knowing about your TG situation and seeing the reality is totally different , I hope it works out OK for you .

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    That is a terrible dilemma. It must be crushing not to be able to live your truth. Avoiding crowds due to Covid might be a valid excuse. But I think this is a bigger crossroad in your life. If you wear a dress to this party, though, i think you'll be in for a pleasant surprise. It won't be "all about you" as you say. You'll get compliments from women about how nice you look, nothing from the men, and then they'll move on to another topic.

    At my workplace, I worried for a long time about what questions I would get from whoever saw me dressed. The answer: none. I went in with the attitude that it was "Not A Big Deal" and my coworkers reacted the same way. I really hope you'll find a way to convince yourself to go wearing your prettiest dress and act as though you've done this many times before. While you imagine now that this is difficult to impossible, once this hurdle is behind you, you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. Good luck

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    I have an alterative plan for u, Jean. Spend $30 at Ross for a dress shirt and slacks. Wear some low heeled booties. Go as a guy and no one will be the wiser!

    U can completely relax knowing no feathers will be ruffled or uncomfortable surprises will haunt your future business dealings! Just have fun!

    Mary Xmas and you're welcome!
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

    Challenge yourself and pursue your passions! When your life clock runs out, you'll have few or NO REGRETS!

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    If most of the people you work with know that you dress, please clarify the issue here, I'm confused.

    I recently had to decline going to a memorial service for my beloved sister, because the family insisted that I attend in male garb. And this was from family members who declared that they supported my decision to be my true self.

    It broke my heart not to go, and I've been severing ties with the family since then.
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    Another option may be to come out to everyone before the party, so it is old news by the time the party is held.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maid_Marion View Post
    Another option may be to come out to everyone before the party, so it is old news by the time the party is held.

    Marion
    I like this idea. They know who you are, so maybe it's time to cross that bridge full time.

    My one piece of advice is when you go, which you will, be as upbeat and positive as you can. If you act like this is something to be ashamed of, people will reflect that. If you act as though this is who you are, people will mostly reflect that as well.

    The universe didn't slap you, it gave you a gift. Rejoice!
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    Hi Jean

    I would suggest that if she approves when she sees the picture you wont have to worry about a thing.

    Having contacted her, I have a feeling she would make sure you get treated with the utmost respect at the party.
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    Jean, thank you. You might not even realise that allowing us into your personal struggles truly helps a lot of us define and shape our own acceptance and understanding.
    See. Another dark cloud has a beautiful silver lining.

    Go and have a great time!

    And this is post #13 on Friday the 13th, geez!
    I've waited so long for this time. Makeup is so frustrating. Shaking hands and I look so old. This was a mistake.
    My new maid's outfit is cute. Sure fits tight.
    And then I step into the bedroom and in the mirror, I see a beautiful woman looking back at me.
    Smile, Honey! You look fabulous!

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    Thank you Char. As most women don't wear dresses, so I'll be dressed like most of them.

    I am out. Everyone in the main office may not know, but I bet they do. One guy in our office actually met me first as Jean. He was accompanying a guy I work with , who this borrowing a tool.

    My guy mode is pretty girly as I am wearing all women's clothing including a sports bar. I dress the same as I would if I would be representing female. I use my last name , a common girls name.

    I have had customers refer to me as a female.

    I'm a service tech and most of the time I work alone. I am non stop at work, I don't take breaks. My goal everyday is to finish as soon as I can, so I can go back to my life.

    I do enjoy the customers,

    Don't get hung up on the word party. It's more of a family gathering. And there is only one person that I'm worried about, the owner. He is like one year older than me, I lived across the street from his family. The middle brother, we were in the same class. My boss is the youngest brother. In my mind he is still 5 years old, I know a funny imagine for your boss.

    I could wear a tutu and nothing would happen to me.

    Teresa gets it. I have been this way so long now that it is all backwards.

    I tried doing guy mode in a social setting a few years ago for my boyfriend at the time I was living with, where I was the lady of the house. I couldn't handle it, I had like a panic attack . I completely shut down it was all I could do. It would be better if I missed the event then to have this happen again.

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    Jean,
    Yes I do get it . Not everyone understands what it means to find the right identity and the efforts needed to retain it . The expectations some people have that it can be turned on and off like a tap just to suit them . If I injure or break an arm I would wear a sling , I wear the clothes I choose to because I'm putting right something inside . As I said to my mother and sister I don't do this to upset or annoy people , I have got better things to do with my life .

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    Jean, as someone else here asked, are you out for your work too? The answer is obvious, you don't, because the reason of this thread is to express your sadness.

    Others say what would happy if you go dressed a a woman.

    Others tell you to give excuses, elegant form of lie.

    I have a question for you, how do you feel when at work dress as a man? Do feel comfortable, no problems? Then you go home or wherever else dress as a woman, and you feel happy, may be you're just non binary, so you can live comfortable in both modes, no both worlds, we live in just one world, unfortunately to live two lives is not something that most people approves and would be very uncomfortable as you say, your would be the center of the conversation that night but mat be in a negative way.

    Several mentioned COVID-19 and for me is more than enough reason to do not go.

    It's a known fact that covid19 is getting worse again and at least here in Californian we're going to purple tie again.

    If wasn't for COVID-19 and you would enjoy go as a woman why no? So many crossdressers here living a double life living, pretending, is not healthy.
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    Thank you again Teresa,

    But the party is off now with the new rules. they said that they will stand through the holidays. At any rate the party is off.

    I took these pictures of the outfits I was considering.

    I wore the Maxi dress today to run a couple errands.
    maxy dress.jpgknee length.jpgChristmas top.jpg
    Last edited by Jean 103; 11-21-2020 at 11:10 PM.

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