I want that first kiss so much now, Shall I let him touch me as well ?, I go out regular to bars and clubs, but ive never done any contact in anyway, might be a girl, i dont know, but started to dream about a kiss, silly I know but going to let it happen ? any of you girls got advice ?
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I have no experience in this area, Debs, since I've never sought such an encounter. However, Beverley's advice seems sound common sense. I'd say it's strongly advisable to think this through in advance, anticipate, and be prepared. How do you plan to respond in such-and-such a circumstance? What will you do if a guy wants a lot more than a kiss? What exactly is he likely to want anyway, and how do you feel about that? And if he wants to go further and you don't, how are you going to handle that diplomatically to avoid getting in trouble? That kind of thing. And don't forget, the reality may turn out quite different from the fantasy!
Oh, and I meant to add: Never promise anything you can't deliver. That can be dangerous!
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Debs,
The closest I've come to it was a few years ago when I'd met up with someone from the forum.
We were sat at a large rectangular table in a quiet LBGT friendly pub chatting, sat at the other end of the bench seat was a solitary guy.
Anyway he got talking to us and the evening passed pleasantly and then it was time to leave. Coats on, handbag sorted, we gave each other a friendly hug and a goodbye kiss on the cheek.
Didn't feel strange, really the natural thing to do so I guess for you I'd say if it feels right, that your spider senses say all is good, then let it happen. Don't force it, you'll know if the time is right.
I can only fantasize of being held or kissed by a man and that man would be Cary Grant! Alas, that will never happen.
Debs, Only kiss someone because you want to. Not because you are dressed. I am bi so have kissed both men (while dressed and not dressed, wink wink) and women. If you are not bi or gay the first kiss of a man will be unusual. I prefer women, so kissing them is always better. Beards and stubble just aren't as enjoyable, for me. Julie
Last edited by Julie MA; 09-09-2021 at 08:24 AM.
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Hey Debs, the only advice I have is if you are planning to kiss anyone, get you some liquid lipstick because it dries and will not smear all over the place. One time I was in a bar and this woman tried to kiss me on the lips when I had cheap wax lipstick on, and I had to turn my head really fast to avoid the lip smear. Whew. You can Google for kiss proof lipstick and get some hits on favorites. I use the Est?e Lauder, but I am sure there are other good ones. I keep mentioning it because I can not believe how much better the liquid is. Note: it does require a little more effort to clean off your lips.
Good luck.
Sandi
That first kiss can and will be magical but you have to take a few things into consideration beforehand. There are very specific types of men who are into crossdressers. Some of these can be quite undesirable. Others can be wonderful. Your goal is to end up with one of the latter. Stay far away from a guy who sees you as a sex object or fetish. Simple. Run fast in the opposite direction. Otherwise, have a blast and tell us all about it.
At risk of sounding ridiculously naive, how would you know?
Wear good quality lipstick, keep breath mints handy and let your consience be your guide. Observe how women kiss in public depending on the place and circumstance.
No matter how much you want to be kissed, don't let anyone be disrespectful.
Believe it or not was out last weekend, got pulled into a lesbian group, they was amazing, one of them but a big smacker on me by suprise, wasnt sexual, and just left me gobsmacked, lol, then said things to me that made me felt amazing
Ok just going to ask because I am confused.
First kiss = as in first while dressed?
Cause I know you are married and said recently she has been more lenient since covid.
So it like a fantasy thing? ( Sher was always Sher no matter the clothing she had on)
You feel like a different person because you have different clothing on/ so again first kiss dressed ?
Does she know you are on a quest to be kissed?
Just asking because some wives have helped in that - having that experience ( have read here)
So from your post …..pulled into lesbian group and kissed ….is different?.
because you are dressed as opposed to being kissed by wife?
Was not going to ask but after your response I just am more confused…..so asking.
Mean no harm, just want to understand .
I just do not get it…….and I am trying to understand.
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Advice?
Sure. It is a slippery slope though I suspect you're already sliding down it.
Should you do it? It's probably inevitable so why not? I love kissing men when I'm dressed, as long as they have good hygiene. I love the feel of their stubble on my face reminding me of what I'm doing. It's exciting and passionate and taboo.
L-o-n-g story short. I was enjoying an evening out dressed at a drag show in L.A. about 30 years ago. I noticed an older gentleman eyeing me. I went over to him and we had a nice conversation. We exchanged phone numbers and I went out with him a couple of times. On one occasion we wound up in his hotel room. We got as far as kissing--passionately. I felt dirty afterwards. We went no farther than passionate kissing. I never called him again. These some 30 years later I still feel dirty when I think about it. No thanks. This girl's had her fun.
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No disrespect intended, Joni, but -- by that same logic -- should we feign surprise if some GG SO's feel "dirty" kissing another CD/woman? "Dirty" works both ways.Originally Posted by Joni T
I'd also like to say that none of us should feel any guilt/shame if we kiss or become intimate with a man anymore than with a woman. Only infidelity is 'dirty'; same sex intimacy isn't. Ever.
That's easy. Most women simply stop being "extremely picky" and move on to building a relationship, for better or worse.
There are likely many of us here who are already the beneficiaries of such largesse.
You have to be careful here. Reality might not be the same as fantasy. I've tried it with a CD'er. We ended up in bed. But, after that, it just seemed so mechanical. Nothing like with women. Could I do it again? Maybe, with <long list of criteria of fantasy - see romance novel covers>, but other than that, no, not really. So, reality is never going to fulfill this specific longing.
And sometimes, fantasies are best left as fantasy. Reality seldom, if ever, matches our dreams.
I'm also trying to figure out how this works. So, out of curiosity, does your wife know this fantasy of yours? Do you think she may have the same fantasy for herself with another man or woman? Do you consider your marriage an open one? Do you consider yourself "another person" when you are dressed?
You probably won't have a hard time finding someone to fulfill a fantasy. Would your wife be broken-hearted if she knew what you were doing or looking for?
Wondering what the goal is? Does it stop at a kiss? Is there a goal? (Oh so many questions!)
Just try make sure that you don't bring any cooties home to your loved ones.
Last edited by char GG; 09-16-2021 at 03:39 PM.
Kris, not sure if your question was directed at me but, in case it was, you would know because the guy will sexualize the conversation right away. He may start by letting you know that he is turned on, that he has a thing for CDs, and that will quickly turn into him saying that he would like to engage in certain activities with you. Basically, he will sound like a horny to pervy teenage boy talking.
Contrast this with a man who simply finds you attractive and can sustain a normal adult conversation without telling you how many CDs and trans he's been with, or what he did with them, or that you are so sexy, etc etc ect.
Keep in mind that you ae still a guy, even though you are presenting yourself to others as a woman. If you kiss a guy and he later finds out that you are another guy, things could turn ugly very quickly. Crossdressers have been killed for this. Seriously.
Secondly, even though you are presenting as a woman, sex with another guy is gay sex. If you are gay, that's fine. If not, don't think that strapping on a pair of boobs and throwing on a wig is going to change this. It's still gay.
Do what you want, of course, but think it all out first and be sure you understand what you are doing. And avoid alcohol, it clouds your decision making ability.
Krisi
And by all means, keep control of your drink! Can’t say it strongly enough. Many a girl/woman or TG has succumbed to a roofie.
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Actually, no crossdresser has ever been killed for this. The men always know. Crossdressers and transwomen have been killed by men who already knew what the crossdresser was but were overcome by guilt, shame, or rage at the prospect of engaging in homosexual activity. This is particularly common immediately after intimacy in what some refer to as post-nut clarity.
This has nothing to do with a violent, unstable, insecure man being fooled by a crossdresser. It has everything to do with the man being violent, unstable and insecure in the first place. Know who you are dealing with before you go down that road and be ready to walk away.
Sometimes when I am in that "moment" I also wonder. Then I realize I think most men are gross and have zero desire to get that close to one. It would have to be the right guy and I would be extremely picky, so I don't see it happening.
I sometimes wonder what women see in most men! So many are way over weight, and personal hygiene ? Or lack of it? Real life is not like the movies!
I agree with your basic idea that wearing women's clothing does not change someone's sex. A CDing male is still a man with male anatomy.
But does it matter what label we put on it, like "gay sex"? Although homosexuality is more accepted in our society than it was 50 years ago, the term "gay" still has negative connotations to a lot of people. I prefer to think of it as "same sex", which it is. That's not to take away from what goes on in people's minds when they have sex. All kinds of people fantasize about all kinds of things when they have sex, especially I suspect CDers and the men who go for them.
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I don't think "gay" is any better or worse word then "same sex" or "homosexuality". There is a three letter "F" word that is no good, that is definitely negative.I agree with your basic idea that wearing women's clothing does not change someone's sex. A CDing male is still a man with male anatomy.
But does it matter what label we put on it, like "gay sex"? Although homosexuality is more accepted in our society than it was 50 years ago, the term "gay" still has negative connotations to a lot of people. I prefer to think of it as "same sex", which it is. That's not to take away from what goes on in people's minds when they have sex. All kinds of people fantasize about all kinds of things when they have sex, especially I suspect CDers and the men who go for them.
Kind of like I know some people that dress in women's clothing, but they are not CD'ers!
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