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    Senior Member Debbie Denier's Avatar
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    Put On A Pedestal

    I adore women and everything about them. How they look . They way they interact. What they wear everything. Do you think we as crossdressers put women on a pedestal? in the way we want to emulate them , be like them etc ? Are we the ultimate tribute act to a woman?Does it make us more sensitive or understanding?

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    Senior Member Emily in the south's Avatar
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    I believe you are mostly right about women in general Debbie. Like everything, there are good ones and bad ones. I have always adored and respected women, and think I am more understanding because of it.

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    Member Teresa.Smith.VA's Avatar
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    Yes, I'm sure that many many CD'ers do have women on a pedestal. I'm also sure that many CD'ers also work hard to look well enough to climb up on that pedestal too.
    I honor my wife's request that I not post pictures.

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    If, "putting them on a pedestal", means letting them be the boss? I see a lot of that here. And when I was married I was guilty of it, too!
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

    Challenge yourself and pursue your passions! When your life clock runs out, you'll have few or NO REGRETS!

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    Aspiring Member NancyJ's Avatar
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    Since I am in an FLR, I would say yes. However, there are women that I do not respect. Some are politicians. Some mistreat people. Gender alone is not enough to gain my respect. Nancy

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    i like women too, but only my wife is on a pedestal. and at times she falls off. got to earn your spot on pedestal.

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    Judging by the way the GG's on this site have been treated at times in the last 13 years on here, I'd say no they aren't put on a pedestal.

    I think their clothing is, and their beauty is, but women as a whole? No.

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    The 100th sheep GaleWarning's Avatar
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    I discovered, more than fifty years ago, that women are no better and no worse than men.
    We are all human ...
    So to answer the questions ... no.

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    Senior Member Kris Burton's Avatar
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    For me, my wife is the only PERSON that is on a pedestal, male or female.

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    Gold Member Helen_Highwater's Avatar
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    I wouldn't say I put women on a pedestal my CD'ing has however given me greater respect for and understanding of the lives they lead.

    There was a thread some while ago about things you won't hear a CD'er say one being "Aren't you ready yet". We know what it takes to get ready for a night out. We know just how tiring wearing heels can be. There's all manner of things in daily life that women have to work that little bit harder at compared to men.

    For those of us who go out and about enfemme, especially at night, we gain a greater understanding of the fear of being attacked that a solo female experience. The awareness of being vulnerable.

    However it's not all bad. We also gain the understanding of just how empowering it can be when you've put all that effort into choosing an outfit, putting on makeup and then seeing yourself looking good in the mirror. Many will learn the art of impromptu conversation. Talking to a total stranger as you have a shared experience however mundane such as waiting to be served while out shopping.

    So I guess I should offer my thanks to women as a glimpse into their world has enhanced mine. Added to my life's experience. Hopefully made me a better person.

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    Platinum Member kimdl93's Avatar
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    I cannot say whether CDers are more sensitive or understanding. Probably not. But I would agree that CDers tend to idealize women, perhaps sometimes to an unrealistic and unhealthy extent. And our attempts to emulate run the risk ( often) of being exaggerated expressions of what men find appealing in women.

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    Exploring NEPA now Cheryl T's Avatar
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    I don't think I put women on a pedestal.
    I don't dress to emulate them in general or anyone in particular. This is all about me and how I feel inside.
    I don't wear women's clothes, I wear MY clothes !

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    Member OrdinaryAverageGuy's Avatar
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    Being CD, I understand how my wife wants to take her bra off after a long day. As for putting her on a pedestal, I do that because I love her, not because I wear dresses.

    Wearing a dress does not make me a woman. God and/or biology made me a guy. I don't know what it's like to be a woman, all I can do is imagine.

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    Senior Member Fiona_44's Avatar
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    I agree with Kim who said - "that CDers tend to idealize women, perhaps sometimes to an unrealistic and unhealthy extent". I think it is wonderful to idolize women for the way they look, dress and comport themselves and to emulate them by dressing and acting like them. But remember that women are not these perfect magical beings that are somehow free from all the emotional & psychological turmoil that impact the average human being.
    "Care about what other people think of you and you will always be their prisoner" - Lao Tzu

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    Senior Member Heather76's Avatar
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    To a degree I would agree with Debbie. What I have found is my attitude toward women has done a 180? turnabout since I've started CDing. To be blunt, I used to look at a woman and wonder what a romp in bed with her might be like. When I look at a woman now, I am interested in what she's wearing, do I like it, how it might look on me, and how she carries herself (her walk, gestures, etc.) I'm much more interested in her overall presence than I am in her sexuality. Actually, those thoughts no longer enter my mind.
    It's never too late to enjoy a happy childhood.
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    I'm finding the more feminine side of me...and I ❤️ this adventure.

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    Connie Connie D50's Avatar
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    I also adore women and everything about them. How they look . They way they interact. What they wear everything. Sometimes I day dream watching them interact and in my mind go to my closet and pick out the perfect outfit and join in on the conversation

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    Senior Member DianeT's Avatar
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    Like Kim said. Every time women are "put on a pedestal" they inevitably end up being shoehorned in one's prejudices, caricatured, often objectified, and sooner or later advised about how to dress and act so as to remain "feminine". I don't think CDers do this in a mean way. They simply want their female ideal to live on, since if the reference they want to emulate evolves, then it questions their own representations and reasons for crossdressing. Anyway this doesn't concern women, who live in the real world and go with the flow. They are not perfect beings nor claim or even wish to be. They simply are, in all their diversity.

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    Aspiring Member kellyanne's Avatar
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    We take much of this from the Greeks and Romans - the Greeks for their depictions and rank of the female body ideal - ie the Venus de Milo and Augustus whose family laws to " restore women to their rightful place as chaste honored wives and mothers etc. echo until today.

    The Victorian age was a replay of Roman spirit.

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