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    Why Are We So Hard On Ourselves?

    I read posts here and I frequently see someone worrying that they are being "clocked" or if they "pass". It baffles me.

    I understand the way it used to be, I am sufficiently old enough to know.

    But we live in a different world now. If you go out, if you present well, if you have common courtesy, NO ONE CARES!

    Yes, we live in a troubled world, but those fears for safety are for everyone, not specifically us.

    I have been out well over a thousand times and I have never passed and I have never been made to feel uncomfortable.

    Just take a deep breathe and relax. You are a worthy human being and how you wish to dress yourself is not an issue.
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    I worried a lot when I first went out but that passed as time and experience did.
    That was nearly 20 years ago.

    Now the worry is different for many. We see these "hate" crimes every day. Someone being punched from behind for no reason, attacked as they stand on a corner because they are different. It's no longer total fear of discovery, now it's just fear because so many people feel they have the right to attack anyone for any reason.
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    With respect, I disagree. We do not see these things "every day". They do happen, of course, but with nowhere near the frequency that should give us pause because most of us are not sex workers. That group is virtually always in danger. The TG person who comports herself as would an average cis woman, including her choices of route and venue, need not worry.
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    A very interesting post Kandi. I've been wondering about something that is similar vein. Does our "male" competitive streak rear its head here? Wanting to be better at looking good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Kelly View Post
    The TG person who comports herself as would an average cis woman, including her choices of route and venue, need not worry.
    My point exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Kelly View Post
    With respect, I disagree. We do not see these things "every day". They do happen, of course, but with nowhere near the frequency that should give us pause because most of us are not sex workers. That group is virtually always in danger. The TG person who comports herself as would an average cis woman, including her choices of route and venue, need not worry.
    Bingo.

    I've been out probably 500 times in the last 6 years without issue. Kandi can attest there are worse things that can happen to you than being outed, and told the story recently that a few hours after running 14 miles with someone, that person did not recognize Kandi when they met face-to-face.

    Saturday Night I went to a rock concert with about 2,500 attendees and zero issue. I'm sure some noticed that I probably wasn't a GG, but if I cared I wouldn't have gone. And with all of the security, my personal risk because I was dressed was zero.
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    Since I wrote my first post (#3) I have been out twice. I dressed to blend and not stand out with an everyday look yet hopefully stylish and femme. Nervous the first time, much less so the second, far more confident. No one noticed me at all, and attracted no undue attention. I pretty much forgot about being dressed and just enjoyed the experience. Looking forward to doing it again. So thanks Kandi - your philosophy and approach works big time!
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    Thank you Kandi. These words of wisdom I will be taking to heart as I am about to undertake my first extended outing en femme. Super excited and apprehensive at the same time, so your words are well placed and encouraging to me.
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    Kandi you are so right.
    Times are very different than 20 years ago, but dressing is not looked down on as much as it used to be.
    I came out in 2008 so 14 years in the world for me.
    Relax is great advice.

    Cheryl T I agree with your comments as well. There are crazy people out there.
    Last edited by TAG; 09-18-2022 at 09:17 PM.

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    I think for me, it's an issue of privacy. There's people I don't want to know, because I don't want to affect them in some way.

    It may be something you do for you, in you spare time, unless you want to be totally out and I understand people who don't want that to come back on them or people they care about in some way.

    Sadly it's just not at the point where there's no difference between the men and women's sections at the store.

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    Thank you all for your input. I may not have made my point the exact way it was meant.

    If one wishes to go out and experience the world as a woman, obviously exercising all safety measures any woman would exercise, then they should concentrate on making that experience the best they can have. If you chose to dress in private, please do what makes you the most comfortable.

    There are four simple rules for going out: be smart (don't put yourself at any greater risk than any other person in that circumstance); be appropriate (dress for your age, body type and circumstance so as not to draw any unwarranted negative attention); be confident (any human being acting nervous may draw unnecessary negative attention in this day and age of mall shootings, etc.); and be visible. For those of us comfortable in doing so, we owe it to those that came before us to continue the gradual tearing down of the issues that have plagued our sisters in the past.

    Nothing in life is easy, nothing. But being yourself can be done if you do it right. I know from significant personal experience as I have been out over a thousand times, been to tens of thousands of places and been on display for many thousands of people by now as I have not shied away from doing what I want and that is usually in a very public and giving capacity.

    I wrote the initial post when I read someone else's post (with pictures) who seemed to only focus on what she perceived others thought of her and probably didn't enjoy the experience like she should have (and she looked lovely). When I say no one cares, pay attention to others, a significant majority of people are so self-absorbed as to not know what's going on around them and to many, especially the younger generation, being non-binary is truly no big deal

    Okay, off my soapbox. If you want to find a problem with anything in life, you certainly can. I prefer finding solutions and the joy in others.

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    Pretty simple, it's not just us, but it's the SO and how she will react. If press for more visibility, then CD at home and relationship will suffer as she is not ready to embrace more openness. I don't know how to effectively raise, resolve and move forward on this issue. And I suspect many are like me and happy to accept what they can accept. It's a compromise to living together.

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    It would be a wonderful world if no one cared. I live in a semi DADT relationship because my own wife can not tolerate the thought of seeing me fully dressed. She knows, but she cares, a lot. Transgender people are bullied in schools and are the victims of violence in communities every day. Murders of trans women continue to be a national tragedy. Some states continue to pass, or attempt to pass, legislation restricting the rights of trans people. Many states that have enacted laws banning trans girls from participating in girls sports have never had a trans athlete attempt to compete.

    Although, thankfully, in certain regions of the country or world there are pockets where few people care and many are tolerant, in general, crossdressing in public or being openly transgender remains something that violates general societal norms and can be risky. Too many people do still care. Nancy

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    Ive noticed a big difference in the last 5 years, I go everywhere shopping during the day, as long as your dressed sensible and walk with confidence, dont make eye contact, browse as though you dont care who is watching, but obviously I do have a glance round, and guess what, nobody is staring or watching me, I just avoid the obvious, gangs of youngsters or drunks etc, just as you would if you wasnt dressed. I dont think its a big a deal anymore. Dont forget, these days you may be a complete maniac with a knife for all they know, so they will stay away , lol

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    Kandi, I would stand with you if I could.

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    Kandi, the 'It never happened to me, so that means it doesn't happen anymore', attitude isn't reality.
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    There's an addendum at post # 82 on that thread, too. It's about a ten minute read.
    Why don't we understand our desire to dress, behave and feel like a girl? Because from childhood, boys are told that the worst possible thing we can be, is a sissy. This feeling is so ingrained into our psyche, that we will suppress any thoughts that connect us to being or wanting to be feminine, even to the point of creating separate personalities to assign those female feelings into.

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    I guess we all have our own since of comfort.
    Some of us feel comfortable going out, others may not
    Myself, they way I prefer to dress. )as in my avatar)
    i don't think I would ever feel totally at easy out.
    People are going to look and talk.

    I spent too many years feeling totally self conscious of myself.
    I don't need to go out in public asking for it.

    But to each his/her own
    my sister's reply when I told her how I prefer to dress

    "Everyone has there thing, all that matters is that you are happy, love what you do and who you do it with"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sometimes_miss View Post
    Kandi, the 'It never happened to me, so that means it doesn't happen anymore', attitude isn't reality.
    I never said it doesn't happen anymore. Please don't put words in my mouth. But there are ways to get out and mitigate the risks.

    There are risks being black, being in school, being in church or a synagogue, going to the mall, being in the wrong place at the wrong time etc. Being a human being in the United States is a risk these days. Being trans/CD is no greater a risk than being anything else. If one were black and took your view point, they would not go to the grocery store anymore.

    Life is a risk is the unfortunate reality.
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    Just to clarify, when I say no one cares, I am speaking of the general public. Of course, we all have our personal circumstances and our relationships with family and friends. That is a whole different discussion and is one I am sympathetic to very much.
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    Thank you for the post Kandi. Like Kris, I too am about to go on my first major out of town trip next month. Four days of adventure.
    Your words will be in my thoughts as I attempt to enjoy myself.

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    People do care. They may not make comments or threaten you, but they do notice. If they are strangers, it doesn't matter, but if you are recognized by a neighbor, someone you work with or go to church with, it can be a big deal with serious consequences.

    Don't let the pink fog cloud your thinking.
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    Sign I saw in the window of a psychotherapists office in Milwaukee many years ago:

    "People spend too much time worrying about what other people think of them when they don't"
    I am a vessel of the goddess. Let me express my calling to a feminine life through nurturing love and relatedness.

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    Kandi, like Kris and Emily, I appreciate your post, too, as I'm about to make my 1st journey out where there will be lots of people who will see Heather. It's a Pride festival so I certainly don't expect any issues; but, I'm still nervous about being out in public fully en femme. I've been out 2 other times but had very little interaction with others.
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    Statistically, if you move out of your immediate locale, I en of you pass someone who knows you, they are unlikely to recognise you,

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    Kerry, correct, I was in Manchester and one of my work collegues walked right past me, and i'd been working with him for several years

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