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    Quote Originally Posted by GretchenM View Post
    It is all equal in our relationship. No leader, no follower. We make decisions together. To us that is the way it should be in a relationship based on love and devotion to each other so we can be a bit like one person composed of two people.
    Relationships have to be built on their own form of uniqueness to the traits and character of that said couple. Like Gretchen and spouse, my wife and I have lived our lives on a 50-50 format. This is how we entered our marriage. I'm the left hand, and she is the right hand of one person. Marriage is finding out what works and going with it. Both the left hand and the right hand have to be happy, or the one person isn't happy!
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    Very Interesting Question Amy!

    I've always harbored a desire to try this on a "temporary" basis with my wife. I've hinted but never come right out and said it. In response my wife mumbled that I wouldn't like the results. It was left at that.

    At work I was the take charge kind of guy and always looking for a leadership position. I accepted the stress and other downsides that went with the job. The thought of turning all that over to a "strong" woman was a siren's call. Maybe some day.

    Meanwhile I feel I have to comment on Diane's statements chastising other members for voicing their opinions.

    This is something I've seen repeatedly on this forum. If you voice an opinion that goes against a narrative you're scolded and told to "toe the line." I resent the heck out of that.

    If somebody gets offended by another member's opinion TOO BAD! Put your big girl panties on and deal with it. How do you find a bad idea? With a better idea. Debate the topic. Don't start scolding people and tell them their wrong for voicing what they believe. Use your powers of persuasion to change their mind.

    Enough said.

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    Amy,
    FLR sounds like a lot of fun. I love reading your posts. I must have read your Xmas story 5 times. Thank you for sharing.

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    I think this may be a fantasy for many who would be on board with the woman requiring the man to dress feminine. Would this work if the woman did not want the man to dress feminine at all? Required him to dress masculine? Be careful what you wish for

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    Char, That would be a failed FLR at least from our POV.
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    My wife is definitely the head of the house. No doubt about it. We both prefer it that way. I would not necessarily call it an FLR though. In my personal definition an FLR would have a kind of sissy element to it. That would be fine with me if we did not have kids.
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    Hi KItty

    Sissy element!... have you seen my pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda E. Woodworth View Post
    This is something I've seen repeatedly on this forum. If you voice an opinion that goes against a narrative you're scolded and told to "toe the line.".
    Linda, the quotes I mentioned implied that women were creatures of a submissive nature. This is pure misogyny, and expressing concerns about it isn't a "narrative" nor a "scolding" but an ask to respect other members, and that includes women reading these forums. Thank you.
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    You make my point for me.

    Somebody, you in this case, is "always" going to whine that they've been offended by the comments of somebody not agreeing with them. Too bad!

    Words mean things. Refusing to use the appropriate words or thoughts, or ideas because somebody may or may not be offended is the whole point.

    You want to debate, debate but don't whine that some words, thoughts or ideas can't be voiced because you find them "offensive".

    Enough said

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    Quote Originally Posted by DianeT View Post
    The above quotes convey the idea that submission is a feminine trait or condition, which seems based on very dated stereotypes (that female are born to be led, and not lead) and can prove pretty offensive when put in writing on a forum where a lot of women are members or anonymous readers too. A little tact would go a long way for our female readers.
    You misconstrued my meaning.
    My statement has nothing to do with submission being a female trait or condition. It only referred to me and my feelings. Don't put words in my mouth, I'm quite capable of doing that myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyJordan View Post
    Hi KItty

    Sissy element!... have you seen my pictures.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmyJordan View Post
    Hi KItty

    Sissy element!... have you seen my pictures.
    Totally seen them and you look fabulous! I think your marriage sounds close to purrfect!
    In a previous engagement, with a woman I did not marry, we had a very interesting relationship. It was great on so many levels and I was absolutely her sissy. She helped me explore parts of myself that I never had previously. She would dress me up, do my makeup and encourage me to explore my sexuality etc.

    My current relationship with my wife is very different, but once again my wife is in charge. I am not at all a manly man, although, most people meeting me for the first time seem to think I am one. Ahhhh, I hate that! Looking back over the course of my life my relationships have always involved strong, independent women who take the lead. In each case, by wife included, the woman runs things as she sees fit, usually without my input.
    If she wants to go out, or on vacations, or what have you she can. I love hearing what she did when she returns. I prefer remaining at home and being told what to do most of the time.
    I would hate to be the one setting the guardrails or boundaries for the relationship. No thanks. My wife is absolutely free to do as she pleases and we are both content and enjoy this aspect of our marriage.

    At the moment my wife and I are pretty low key, although I think that may change when my daughter leaves home. This is also one of the reasons why I don't dress at the moment.

    I think where a lot of couples run into problems when looking at a WLM is if the one partner prefers a more traditional relationship style with the man leading, or one partner wanting a 50/50 arrangement.
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    Can we please stop the in fighting I didn't mean for this topic to raise preconceptions on either side, I feel bad that I may have misunderstood Dianes remarks and that they weren't intended to reflect my personal situation and that has resulted in some flak being levelled her way.
    I'm just trying to explain my lifestyle and gauging opinion if it's really weird not turn us against each other.

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    I would love a LITTLE bit of FLR, for example little things like her telling me (or daring me) to stay in a bra all day, or to wear something pushing the limits a little more than usual when we go out. But she doesn't seem to have any interest in encouraging me other than the occasional gift, not to mention not caring what I wear most of the time (which compared to many here is a win).

    As to full time FLR like Amy is enjoying? Naw, not for me. My wife and I are 50/50, at least on paper. I wind up making more of the major decisions but I do seek her advice and opinions. It works for us. Amy's life is fascinating to me and I love reading about it, and I'm glad it works for them.


    I somehow missed where people were offended or slamming others for opinions here, which is fine by me. I've been slammed for my opinions on this site more than once, but I really don't care. My opinions are mine, and I'm more than happy to share when asked even if the person doing the asking isn't going to like it. I swear some people live to be offended. Seems like a lousy way to live.

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    intriguing is what i think about your situation....the mrs. the sisters, the "rascal" the gifts.

    its not a DOM/femdom aspect so its FLR light, you enjoy the choices even though you sweat the details, their are some crazy stories for this type of lifestyle and some here have shared about those aspects too....consulting adults....if it makes you happy its all good.

    their used to be a show on HBO....real sex....they would present some of the different lifestyles in a candid filming while trying to keep it PG-13


    you sound like you have a fun relationship and some are envious of your situation....were as varied as a box of chocolate....never know what your gonna get....
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    i dressed like a girl and i liked it! crossdressing...theirs an app for that

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    Hi Amy,

    I replied earlier, but, somehow managed to delete it, when trying to edit for spelling mistakes, so I'll repost again.

    Tbh I'm really envious of your situation, personally I'd love to be in your situation, I've fantasised about this for as long as I can remember. I'm a people pleaser, so would love this kind of lifestyle, however, in reality it wouldn't really be practical or possible as other family members, etc would definitely not accept this and it would be impossible to keep it from them, plus my partner wouldn't be interested.

    I think you're in a fairly unique situation in that your wife initiated your crossdressing and now insists on you dressing enfemme fulltime at home, yet, she hasn't forced or coerced you into this, just guided and encouraged you along, that's dreamland stuff for most of us here.

    I love hearing about your lifestyle as I never thought something like this could actually happen in real life, so it's really interesting to hear your story and how its progressing. What's important is that you are both happy which is what really matters.

    I have a few questions, apologies if you've already answered, but, has your wife explained why she decided to initiate your crossdressing and why she insists on you being enfemme fulltime at home, also, do you ever see a point in the future where you will be enfemme full-time, both at home and outside your home.

    Thanks.

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    Hi Jasmine

    In answer to your question it seemed to begin fairly tamely, I would always badger her to wear sexy outfits and always pantyhose/nylons as I had always had a fetish for women wearing them, this extended to wanting her to wear them to bed also.
    One night she said she was finding them uncomfortable during the night but loved the feeling of snuggling up to warm soft legs so would I be willing to wear them instead.

    My wife has always been dominant, growing up with so many sisters made her super competitive so as her business life flourished so did her demands, so when the sexy short outfits no longer fitted her new style and my wearing the pantyhose had become a regular thing she began adding more and more items.

    She said that I looked fabulous and that it was my turn to dress sexy for her as she found it very pleasing.

    When she became successful enough she confessed she had always dreamed of having a stay home partner to look after her and that as I am dressing more and more as a housewife then it should be permanent.

    By this time I had become far more submissive whilst she grew in dominance often commenting ' remember when you used to insist I wear those clothes' or 'make sure you're wearing something sexy when I get home' or 'I've got you the cutest little outfit for today'

    I know she enjoys teasing me and she is far more daring and adventurous sexually and has very effectively completely turned the tables on what our lives were before.
    There are things I'm still resisting i.e going out in public because I am too scared and self conscious which although she is accepting for now I know she is finding annoying, that's why she gets great enjoyment in pushing me into situations which are potentially hugely embarrassing at times.

    But you are right we are extremely happy, she has a devoted 'sissy wife' whom she adores and I have the partner I have always loved even before our new arrangement.

    Amy x

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    Amy,

    It is kind of interesting that it seems your wife is not the one reluctant to be seen in public but you. Do you think you can give in if she insists on dragging you out somewhere as if obligated to comply. It is an interesting notion that you may have to decide one day, especially if she gets bored with the status quo.

    Should that happen, it is not as scary as you might think, but you would likely want it conditional on going somewhere you are likely to not be known by anyone.

    Of course if she gets playful and locks you out of the car or something. Haha, I have an evil mind. Good thing I don?t give her any ideas.

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    Amy, you're wondering how unique your wife is? She's one in an infinite number of women! Even if you spent hours telling us about her, we would know only a small smidgen of her. What you tell us here, she seems a lot of fun, mischievous, and very self assured. All wonderful qualities. She is unique to you, and that's all that matters. Heaven forbid anything ever happened to her or your marriage, you will never find another like her. Cherish every moment. I mean that sincerely. It's sometimes too easy to take for granted what we have when it is oh so wonderful!

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    Hi Amy,

    Thanks for your reply. I love how you gradually fell into the role bit by bit. She is right btw, you do look fabulous! You are both so lucky to have found each other; she has her devoted 'sissy wife' a role you were born for but, never realised it, and you have a woman who adores you. If you'd never met, it's doubtful you would have ever found the joys of crossdressing.

    From the sounds of it, it's only a matter of time before she has you dressing in public too and that'll go fine as you will have her support and it's obvious she won't do anything to put you in harms way. As a matter of interest if your wife said you can wear whatever you like, would you go back to male clothes or continue to dress up. Also when you are in male mode in public, do you miss being enfemme?.

    Thanks again and I love reading your updates so keep them coming!

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    As to our opinions, that's pretty much irrelevant, because if the dynamic works for you and your wife that's really all what matters.

    As to your explanation a few posts above as to how it started, did you have any inkling to dress before your wife suggested it? Or was this something new to you, which you are willing to do because your nature is being submissive?

    My opinion is that every guy has a kink. For many here, dressing is that kink. There is a very wide spectrum of kinks, as proven by all the variations in porn. As Dan Savage says, we didn?t choose our kink, our kink chose us. I believe that to be true. I don't know why I've always had the urge to dress, but it's been there since I was 7 or so.

    I can certainly understand the submissive side of being told to dress. I am sure others have daydreamed about losing a bet and being "forced" to dress, even though we obviously wanted to. That's our defense mechanism if caught; I had to do it.

    I have a GG friend Michelle, and often I will dress at her place, and take a couple of choices, and let her choose what I should wear when we go out. I would love to show up one day at her place and she would have an outfit of hers (we are similar sizes) and tell me "I want you to wear this."

    Last year I visited another GG friend Renee. I was going to a Bruce Springsteen concert with Renee's husband (for various reasons, Renee wasn't going too). I was, by agreement, going dressed (Renee helped me dress 30+ years ago when we were FWBs). It was the first time I was going out one on one with a man.. It was a kick for me to get Renee's input and how she wanted me to dress for a "date" with her husband, and she said she wanted me to dress "to the nines". Her husband was a great "date" and we both enjoyed the concert, and I enjoyed wearing a sexy dress, fishnet stockings, and heels (probably the only one of the 15,000 in attendance).

    So I can definitely understand the pleasure of being told to dress. However, in my marriage, that certainly isn't going to happen, and I avoid dressing in front of my wife.

    I suspect, if we knew the true numbers, the number of CDs who's SO want them to dress is far smaller than the numbers of CDs who have never told their SOs they dress, so you and your spouse are definitely unicorns.

    I also suspect you would get a big kick out of being dressed in public, so I suggest you give it a try. Lots of fun to go shopping and trying on stuff.
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