This may sound like a nutty question, but I'm "nutty" anyway (ask anyone here). The idea for M T F's is to look like women (or a reasonable facsimile), right? I'm pretty good at "passing" (I really don't care for that term) in my own right but in my own mind, that's not good enough, plus I'm way past the glitter phase. I'd like to know what you as genetic women could tell me as to how to really look like a woman? In other words how do you portray yourself on a day to day basis? I know we talk about how women like to "dress down" and be comfortable and many of us think we have you "pegged". I'm not so sure myself. Let's say I have it down to where I can look feminine enough without makeup or minimal makeup. What's the best way I could proceed(with the appropriate "padding") to look like a norrnal everyday gal? This is not a trick question as I honestly want to know. What advice could you give me to look like an honest to goodness everyday gal? This is open to everyone but I'm primarily looking for input from the GG's.They are, after all, the real experts in this as far as I'm concerned. Ericka