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    I would call myself conservative in fiscal matters but liberal in social matters. On the party front I am an independent. Even though I am from Texas, Bush country, my feeling is he was a great govornor but lousy president.
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    I'm a social libertarian - if it doesn't hurt me, then it's none of my business if you do it. In principle, I have no problem with executing murderers, but in practice I have great fear of executing an innocent person. I've considered myself a liberal all my life, and I'm proud to salute the flag and sing the national anthem. I think sex between consenting teens should not be a crime, and drug use should be considered a nuisance, not a felony. I don't like women on the battlefield, and I think a wartime draft - with no exceptions - is a good idea.

    Quite a jumble there, no?

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    I'm kind of an enigma. I'm an easy going gal who is intolerant of intolerance. At the same time , I can be a two fisted gal who calls a "spade" a "spade" and won't put up with much BS. I accept everyone for who they are as a person and expect to be treated the same way. I will challange people if I believe they are not being sincere. As far as politics and religion, I'm pretty open ended but not much gets past me and I can smell a phoney a mile away. Sincerity is what counts with me and I respect that, regardless of beliefs and I can get along well and work with most people. Don't cross me though or make me angry, you wouldn't like me if I'm angry.

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    omg, we are like everyone else!!

    I'm just delighted to see that the posts so far have been all over the map. I don't view the process of expressing my feminine side as any way linked to my political, moral, or social choices. How careful I am in expressing my femininity certain is affected by how others choose, but seeing our varied views has reinforced my feelings that we are doing something apart from all that! I'm also fiscally and morally conservative, but liberal in the area of human needs and well-being.

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    I am a person who believes in taking my inspiration an guidance in life from Nature. I don't subscribe to any religion. I don't support any political party because I believe that politicians only work for themselves and are the biggest liars on earth. Although I once served in the army, I wouldn't do it again because you are not fighting for your country but for a bunch of no-good politicians! I try not to hurt anyone or any living thing. I believe in being true to myself and not overindulging in anything.
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    Politics stink.

    I don't participate in party politics. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this age. Salandra, I don't like getting angry, either, and don't like being around others who are angry out of control. I got told off, by a 70 year old gg friend, the other night. She gets angry, easily. I really am turned off, by a gg, who is REALLY angry bigtime. That is a real turn off, makes me glad I'm single. I don't think there are many of us, who are any fun to be around, when angry. That is where wisdom, and good judgment come in, but, it is hard to make good decisions, when anger takes over.

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    You will pry my heels off me......if you get my drift....

    Raised in a Baptist home, mom would freak. Very much a "Right Winger".

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    Several areas make up my personal belief and value system -- so I guess in that sense I am much like Salandra: I'm an enigma. I was politically socialized at a very young age -- and having said that, it dawns on me that I realized I was a CD at a very young age, too. Obviously, I don't see this as a conflict, wheres mainstream society would!

    I have been a delegate to a Rep National Convention, yet I identify more with "republitarian" beliefs -- a mix of conservatism and libertarianism. As Eva Diva said, "if it doesn't hurt me, then it's none of my business if you do it."

    I don't believe that our courts were meant to "legislate from the bench." They can deny it all they want, but they do it all the time -- and more for liberalism than in the other direction. I hold to some liberal beliefs -- even some socialistic beliefs. The state of health care in this country is, for example, so out of control that the only rational answer is to socialize it (sorry doctors, drug companies, and health insurance companies, etc. -- it is time for your obscene profits to get reined in). Socialized medicine IS the only intelligent answer to that problem (and boy would I ever get kicked out of an RNC meeting if my posiion on this was known.)

    I guess what liberal beliefs I hold are most evident in my beliefs regarding the TG community.

    All in all, I am a nice person, empathetic and tolerant. I don't put up with intolerance or BS, though, and can hold my own in any debate. While I do love the U.S. -- and as one of the girls said, salte the flag, etc., I do NOT feel that the U.S. has the answers to everything that goes on in the world. Yes, we have a responsibility given our power, etc. But, we allow ourselves to be victims of demagogoury so very many times. For example, our so-called "war on drugs" is a joke. All we've done is create a "cottage industry" for law enforcement while not even beginning to stem the tide, so to speak. Isn't it interesting that if I have a bad headache, I need a prescription to get tylenol with codeine in the U.S., but can get it over the counter in Paris, or St. Martin, or Nassau, or on and on, and on. We have situations like this that cut across all party lines, but hey, the modern demagougues are gonna rule.

    Yep! Salandra said it best: I'm an enigma through and through!

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    I'm an old fshioned God fearing person,honest to a fault,hard working,my wife is first in my life,I could be considered a hard ass when it comes to taking responsabilities for one actions and the penalties that should be levied however when it comes to ones sexual orientation and to CDing its an open mind that I have.

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    I consider myself as conservative, not ultra right ; religeous but not holier that thou. I believe in all things in moderation and try not to judge another person

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    Conservative

    I'm a conservative. I dress because I like the way I look and feel when I'm dressed up. I like sex with men and other cds. I'm not in this to make a political statement. Individual freedom and responsibility is the foundation of conservatism. I don't know how much more you can celebrate individualism than crossdressing. I don't believe I have the right to get married to another man or that anyone else should accept me if they don't want to. To me, that's not what individualism is all about. I'm comfortable enough with myself to understand that I am responsible for what I do and who I do it with. Individualism made and keeps this country great, not diversity. I see crossdressing not as diversity but as individualism.

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    In SPITE of cding?? What kinda crack is that??!!?

    Hee hee!!!

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    Don't necessarily like labels

    I'm what people used to refer to as "conservative" and so that is the term I use to describe myself. More accurately, I guess I'd call myself a "Constitutionalist". I'm really a "Reagan Conservative" who still believes that government is not the solution to the problem, government IS the problem.

    I believe that the freedoms guaranteed in the Bill of Rights are freedoms that guarantee privacy, and that those freedoms are just that, part of our private lives. When people, even presidents, moralize too much, it makes me sick - just as sick as when they commit adultery in front of all of us.

    Tax me less so that I can decide how to spend my own money, and that will let verything else flow naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sally24 View Post
    That is pretty much me too! To sum it up in one word I would have to say Honor. I believe a person's word is their most important possession. I have old fashioned personal values, but I believe that everyone has the right to exist and be happy as long as they do no harm to others.

    I support legalizing drug use and prostitution, but also am a big supporter of our right to bear arms. I think we should have a limited draft so that every family helps defend this country, not just the lower half of the income scale. And I think lying is the worst thing that you can do on a personal level, it harms the relationship you have with others.

    As you can see both traditional and nontraditional values.
    OMG Sally, I thought I was reading my own words here! So many people don't have a clue about the importance of personal honor, let alone what it's about. Now I wouldn't be surprised if you listen to Michael Graham of Jay Severin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayla_cd_va View Post
    I'm a conservative. I dress because I like the way I look and feel when I'm dressed up. I like sex with men and other cds. I'm not in this to make a political statement. Individual freedom and responsibility is the foundation of conservatism. I don't know how much more you can celebrate individualism than crossdressing. I don't believe I have the right to get married to another man or that anyone else should accept me if they don't want to. To me, that's not what individualism is all about. I'm comfortable enough with myself to understand that I am responsible for what I do and who I do it with. Individualism made and keeps this country great, not diversity. I see crossdressing not as diversity but as individualism.

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    Actually diversity has been linked to economic development. For example, you'll notice that the top high-tech cities in the US also have very high gay populations.

    It's interesting that you feel it's Ok to have sex with another man and yet still disagree with gay marriage. You're gay, or at least bi-sexual, and don't feel that you and your partner should have the same economic privileges of a same sex couple? That doesn't make sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suchacutie View Post
    I'm just delighted to see that the posts so far have been all over the map. I don't view the process of expressing my feminine side as any way linked to my political, moral, or social choices. tina
    Well said, Tina!!!

    Tina has, IMHO, brought this topic full circle. We've had answers where we've put ourselves all over the place on the political spectrum -- libertarian to socialistic, and everywhere inbetween. Yet, our political (and sometimes religious) beliefs notwithstanding, we, for the most part, share a common bond regarding gender issues and expressions, etc. This IS nice to see!!!

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    Well, Lucille, I am a Christian and a political conservative. Just because I CD, doesn't mean I have to abandon my beliefs. I admit I am a hypocrite, 'cause some of the things I've done , both as a guy and CD, violate Christian and/or conservative values. But, I don't go along with the overall liberal agenda, including gay marriage and environmental whacko-ism. I don't want to get on a political rant, just to say I agree with you for the most part.

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    I think that I consider myself a liberal, agnostic individual. I try to live a good life treating everyone like I wish to be treated and looking for the bright side of life.
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    Hardcore conservative here, just a little to the right of Benito Mussolini. Actually, I'm a Constitution Party member because I became disgusted with how wimpy the Republicans had become.

    However, I believe that whatever consenting adults want to do in the privacy of their own home is their business. Less government is better government.

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    some what conservitave religous and value others and there belifes and am patient with other life choices

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    Old Hippie, i guess that makes me a liberal.
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    pretty conservative in "moral" matters (Christian, anti-abortion), a real mix in politics (lean Republican, but they sure can infuriate me!), probably not easily categorized. Having lived overseas for 10 years, I have gained a broad, global worldview which most politican conservatives just don't get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5inchHeels View Post
    Actually diversity has been linked to economic development. For example, you'll notice that the top high-tech cities in the US also have very high gay populations.

    It's interesting that you feel it's Ok to have sex with another man and yet still disagree with gay marriage. You're gay, or at least bi-sexual, and don't feel that you and your partner should have the same economic privileges of a same sex couple? That doesn't make sense to me.

    I think this forum is great because we can express different points of view. One thing that I dislike is when people who have something in common like crossdressing are expected to see the world the same way.

    I enjoy sex when dressed as a woman. Because that's the way I enjoy sex doesn't mean I have to identify with a particular group or have to believe the way most in that group do. I believe that marriage is not something done for economic benefit. I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. I enjoy sex with men but I understand that is not the norm. I don't have to change the world. I just want to have sex the way I like.

    No one that I work with knows of my sexual desires. It's not their busienss and their sexual desire is not my business. I don't want to know if someone that I work with is gay. It doesn't matter. I don't understand people who demand to be identified and defined by the way they like sex. It doesn't matter if it's men with women, men with men, threesomes or whatever, it's not what should define us and it shouldn't be advertised.

    I understand that I hold a minority view among the people who enjoy crossdressing and that's ok. I respect everyones right to see the world the way they choose. For me sex is something very personal and is enjoyed in private. That's why I value groups like this where I can talk with and meet others who enjoy the feel of stockings as much as I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randi View Post
    Hardcore conservative here, just a little to the right of Benito Mussolini. However, I believe that whatever consenting adults want to do in the privacy of their own home is their business. Less government is better government.
    Not quite like me then, two feet to the right of Genghis Khan?
    Agree 100% with your sentiment Randi as regards within one's own home. It bothers me a little that some are so avid about "going-out". For those who can easily pass in public, fine.
    But those who like myself can't manage that...is it right to inflict ourselves on the non-TG folks who, let's face it, comprise the majority?
    Don't mean to be a spoil-sport so-to-speak, but surely if we petition for "rights" we have to be aware of "responsibilties" too?
    At the risk of seeming ingenuous....
    A regular guy out shoppng with the wife and children sees an obvious 6'6" TV parading around....the kids ask "Daddy, why is that funny man wearing a dress?" What's the guy supposed to say?
    Perhaps I'm too "closet-minded"; I'm sure this point has been made many times before, but there seem to be some who don't accept it, and surely the risk of "backlash" exists?

    On the point of "less government is better government"...you a fan (like myself) of Thomas Paine Randi?
    I believe "less gov." is only possible when people behave responsibly of their own volition, thereby obviating the need for control from above.
    This is something of a moot point here in the UK right now as our seemingly inexorable slide toward a "United States of Europe" brings about more and more regulation...we are already the most "spied-upon" nation in the world; it really doesn't need to go any further in that direction ! But I expect it will

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