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    What if it was okay.......

    My wife (ACCEPTING BUT DOESNT WANT TO PARTICIPATE) asked me a very interesting question the other day that has perplexed me somewhat:

    What if it was okay in today's society to do what we do? Dress up/wig/makeup/whatever? Would it still excite me as much if I grew up in a culture that was okay with crossdressing? I get so excited at crossdressing opportunities like today (grey blouse, black skirt, strawberry blonde hair, heels, full makeup!! Stuck in house but en femme- tht's okay!))

    Now, don't jump on me- i know many of you are fearless and don't care what others think of you anyways. But, for those of us hemmed in somewhat by society (I've only been out in public @12 times in the last five years- and i know there are so many that won't venture out)

    Would you do things differently if it was widely accepted?

    I told her I think I would still be very excited about it but that i would obviously do it LOTS MORE!!!

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    Not for me Jamie because I'd be who I am and do what I do anyway.It's just something I like to do and choose to do. It would, however, be interesting to see just who would do it if it were otherwise accepted.

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    If it was accepted, then the phrase crossdressing would not exist.

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    If it was acceptable then would it be any more fun? hmmm but then would i still love it ? ABSOLUTELY !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie14
    Would you do things differently if it was widely accepted?
    YES, definitively.
    I would think about it far less than I do now and would use the "excess" mental energy to think about other important things.

    I told her I think I would still be very excited about it but that i would obviously do it LOTS MORE!!!
    My personal experience, from my desperate attempts to "normalize" it, tells me the opposite.
    I admit though, that my view and experiences are also corrupted by own and outer restrictions.

    Acceptance means normality, normality means less excitement but more inner peace.
    "LOTS MORE", maybe, maybe lots less, depends on what's the core of all this. Hard to tell ... we will know once it is normal.
    Last edited by Marla S; 10-07-2007 at 03:05 PM.

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    There is a huge misconception the this is for fun and thrills.

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    I wish it was ok

    Then for so many girls here the closet would not exist anymore
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    If it were acceptable behavior

    Yes I would dress as it is who I am and how I feel most comfortable.

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    What the question your wife is begging is whether most most of it is about people getting their rocks off on the 'wrongness' and inappropriateness of it all.

    And, for those people who do (the 'sissies' - see this thread for an example of what I mean), they'd probably completely lose interest in it, since no one would care anymore. Their fetishization of it all is hinged on people finding it inappropriate and 'wrong.' They get off on the 'humiliation' effect of doing what they do and that would cease to exist.

    But, I do not believe they're anything more than an extreme minority of the community.

    That being said, I think a lot more people would just dress as they care to.

    Most people (including I) would be completely full-time, which is a stark contrast to never being out and never caring to be out due to the consequences, my entire life.

    I (and many people here, I presume), have always had to make efforts to make myself come off as more masculine than I really am and it would be a relief to just 'be myself', so I'd just do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaina View Post
    There is a huge misconception the this is for fun and thrills.
    I think there must be at least *some* who enjoy it for the "risk" and "naughtyness" of it all. I think that this might be just *one* of the reasons my bf likes it.

    What's wrong w/wanting to do something because it is "non acceptable", It's safe rebellion in comparison to other things (he has kept it inside the home, except wearing undies, but no one can see those.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by alarmclockgirl GG
    What's wrong w/wanting to do something because it is "non acceptable",
    Nothing, as long as one doesn't complain about that it is not accepted. Otherwise a "safe rebellion" is not the reason to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alarmclockgirl GG View Post
    What's wrong w/wanting to do something because it is "non acceptable", It's safe rebellion in comparison to other things (he has kept it inside the home, except wearing undies, but no one can see those.).
    Safe rebellion at this point, for some it is. I mean, its like some people smoke or do drugs because it is illegal and makes them feel like they are taking a risk. So for some, yes, it would be that factor, the factor that it is a risk in doing it, or the people who are into humiliation.

    But then there are the people who genuinely like the style. To be honest, if it was totally and 100% acceptable, I think I would still dress. I wouldn't go full time, but I'd dress each day as I felt. If I wanted to wear a skirt and a nice top, then I'd wear a skirt and nice top. The next day if I wanted to wear jeans and a band t-shirt, then I'd do that. Or if I wanted to wear a skirt and a band t, then I'd do that. Really, I'd just dress however the mood struck me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marla S View Post
    Nothing, as long as one doesn't complain about that it is not accepted.
    This is true. My bf has never once complained about it, heck he hardly talks about it at all. Only if I bring it up.

    Some people just like to complain, about anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by angelfire View Post
    Safe rebellion at this point, for some it is. I mean, its like some people smoke or do drugs because it is illegal and makes them feel like they are taking a risk. So for some, yes, it would be that factor, the factor that it is a risk in doing it, or the people who are into humiliation.

    But then there are the people who genuinely like the style.
    I realize that, that's why I said *some*, not all, or even most or anything. He certainly could be in the minority. If you notice he rarely posts. I have nearly ten times the amount of posts he has, he makes fun of me for it. <shrugs>
    He is a minority amongst a minority, and well so am I. That's ok w/me.
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    If it were acceptable it probably would not be as exciting, but I would be much more comfortable with being myself in the world.

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    There's a point about some people doing "extreme" forms of CDing for kicks, and yes, I think if it were permissible it would lose its attraction and they'd move on to something that was out of bounds.
    But a lot of the CDers here, like myself, would welcome the freedom to dress as they feel they should look, whenever and wherever they want. And no, I wouldn't be in a flowing dress and full make-up every day because I doubt that I would always be in the mood. I'd have my jeans and T-shirt days too.
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    I would would dress enfemme everyday, in fact I am preparing to live 24/7 enfemme, so it would be nice if society would be accepting of what we want to wear. I hope society does accept us dressing how we please.
    I prefer to dress enfemme because it is how I identify with my inner self, it feels normal, I feel more at ease, when I comb my hair, put on makup, and bra and breastforms, and panties, and hose, I feel complete.

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    I'd quit... and become a secret agent or an astronaut.... criminal.... something exciting!!! lol

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    in some cultures it is totally acceptable for men to impersonate women. unfortunately uor society has placed a stigma on us. however we are living in a double standard society where women can dress in men's clothes without being labeled. would i dress and go out if it was accepted? yes. would i feel any less of a thrill? no. i have gone out en femme but only to tg meetings and only twice. will i be going to more tg meetings? yes. there i am accepted as "one of the girls" regardless of wether i'm passable in public or not. we will have a long wait for society to change its double standard, and stop "labeling" us as "crossdressers", and start accepting us as productive members and people of our ownsociety. Jill

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    Yes

    If it were 'widely accepted' , I would go out more often. Dressing is more 'normal' for me than exiting. Don't get me wrong, it is fun; womens' clothes in general are much more fun than mens. In fact, I feel more... 'crossdressed'...in male mode.
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    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by SusanMarie View Post
    If it were 'widely accepted' , I would go out more often. Dressing is more 'normal' for me than exiting. Don't get me wrong, it is fun; womens' clothes in general are much more fun than mens. In fact, I feel more... 'crossdressed'...in male mode.
    That is exactly how I feel. I am crossdressed when in male mode, and as for dressing it feels normal also.

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    I think at first it would be even more of a thrill...

    if it was completely normal all of the sudden and I could stroll about like Max Klinger just doing my normal everyday things, and no one thinking it was in anyway abnormal. What fun to get compliments on shoes from women we know now, but who of course have no idea about my dressing. I'd be much more free to notice and comment on others fashion choices. And they would get it that I really do like the line of their skirt, or cut of their hair, or the height of their heel, and that it isn't some kind of weird come-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karren Hutton View Post
    I'd quit... and become a secret agent or an astronaut.... criminal.... something exciting!!! lol

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    Rocks off

    I dress up to get my, "rocks off". However, not because it is forbidden fruit. I just love the look of an attractive woman. The fact that I can appear to be one, and feel like a sexy lady all dolled up, is an off the map turn on for me.
    ( See what I mean at: myspace.com/robertsherry). I get nothing from the "fetishization" of CDing, except guilt! Personally, I would love to be able to wear a few ladies items out occassionally. Not to try to pass, just to enjoy the feel of ladies things! Maybe I'm not typical of "rocks off" CDers. No ideas about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie_C View Post
    What the question your wife is begging is whether most most of it is about people getting their rocks off on the 'wrongness' and inappropriateness of it all.

    And, for those people who do (the 'sissies' - see this thread for an example of what I mean), they'd probably completely lose interest in it, since no one would care anymore. Their fetishization of it all is hinged on people finding it inappropriate and 'wrong.' They get off on the 'humiliation' effect of doing what they do and that would cease to exist.

    But, I do not believe they're anything more than an extreme minority of the community.

    That being said, I think a lot more people would just dress as they care to.

    Most people (including I) would be completely full-time, which is a stark contrast to never being out and never caring to be out due to the consequences, my entire life.

    I (and many people here, I presume), have always had to make efforts to make myself come off as more masculine than I really am and it would be a relief to just 'be myself', so I'd just do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    You kill me Karren. You LIE! You must have brown eyes because I believe you are full of ......... $h*t
    Ok I'd be a crossdressing secret agent!!! Happy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karren Hutton View Post
    Ok I'd be a crossdressing secret agent!!! Happy!!

    Karren
    I see you as someone who would find SOMEWAY to rebel.. or do something outrageous for shock value. You are a girl who needs a LOT of attention and being a criminal just wouldn't be enough for you.

    Yes, I am happy now!

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