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    cheating

    I in my male form work with a bunch of woman and I've found that they cheat as much as men, but they don't seem to get caught.

    One girl at work sleeps only with married men. (3 or more)

    Men love mystery and allure. Atleast I do, we cd and tg are all of that and some.

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    Actually studies show women cheat about as much as men.
    Its not just the studies that show this, common sense does as well. Either women cheat just as much as men or theres a small percentage of ****s who all the men sleep with, while the rest of the GGs are inmaculate loyal wives. Thats ilogical!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eden_medea View Post
    is it just me or do guys only just want to have sex with crossdressers? they never want to commit... they are usually all secretive and date girls like us behind their wives or girlfriend's backs... its really degrading and depressing honestly... anyone have any real luck in holding a guy? i'd be interested in hearing about it...

    I think its because there are a lot of tgirls out there that have no problem just meeting guys for sex and they feel all us girls are like that...just the way it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by DianaGomez View Post
    Its not just the studies that show this, common sense does as well. Either women cheat just as much as men or theres a small percentage of ****s who all the men sleep with, while the rest of the GGs are inmaculate loyal wives. Thats ilogical!
    But alas it's a common belief amongst many women I've met!

    From eden_medea:
    no offense, but that's australia - i am not sure if that place even really exists, i mean, what tazmania - isn't that a cartoon or something?
    I'm pretty sure the figure is about the same for the rest of the western world too.

    As for the existance of a continent about the size of the U.S.A... well you'll find it on many maps and in many atlases, though I do find it amusing how many movies have big maps of the world in the backgrounds of military headquarters that leave it off. While I do find the idea of living in a fictional world amusing I would rather wonder how I am able to interact with your 'real' world so easily it that were the case.

    A quick look about world affairs and you may notice our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, our participation in the 'coalition of the willing', our long term military alliance with the U.S.A., our recent massive turnaround on climate change, our diplomatic efforts against whaling and historically our participation in WW1, WW2 and Vietnam etc often at a higher proportion of population than other countries. We were also the second country to give women the vote, after New Zealand, that strip of long thin islands at the edge of the continent where the Lord of the Rings films were filmed.

    As for Tasmania, well the cartoon is named after the character which is named after the animal which is named after where it lives which is named after a guy called Abel Tasman. It's that large island on the south eastern tip of the continent with the unfortunate shape that has led to womens pupic hair/regions offering being refferred to in the vernacular as their 'map of tassie'. the island/state doesn't get a lot of press here in Australia either, is often forgotton about and plenty of derogatory jokes are also made at the expense of the place and it's allegedly inbred and backward inhabitants.

    Rmember the swashbuckling movies of Errol Flynn? He was from Tasmania.

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    i as a hetro guy have never been attracted to men - but when i'm dressed i sometimes fantasise about oral - ie giving a guy a blow job - that scares me but if and when i do out will the oppotunity be there - probably but i dont think i could go through with it for real - i guess sexuality is confusing these days i cant really understand why any guy thats maried would want to go with a cd but then again its a mixed up world we live in ! really scary !

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    Quote Originally Posted by battybattybats View Post
    But alas it's a common belief amongst many women I've met!

    From eden_medea:

    I'm pretty sure the figure is about the same for the rest of the western world too.

    As for the existance of a continent about the size of the U.S.A... well you'll find it on many maps and in many atlases, though I do find it amusing how many movies have big maps of the world in the backgrounds of military headquarters that leave it off. While I do find the idea of living in a fictional world amusing I would rather wonder how I am able to interact with your 'real' world so easily it that were the case.

    A quick look about world affairs and you may notice our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, our participation in the 'coalition of the willing', our long term military alliance with the U.S.A., our recent massive turnaround on climate change, our diplomatic efforts against whaling and historically our participation in WW1, WW2 and Vietnam etc often at a higher proportion of population than other countries. We were also the second country to give women the vote, after New Zealand, that strip of long thin islands at the edge of the continent where the Lord of the Rings films were filmed.

    As for Tasmania, well the cartoon is named after the character which is named after the animal which is named after where it lives which is named after a guy called Abel Tasman. It's that large island on the south eastern tip of the continent with the unfortunate shape that has led to womens pupic hair/regions offering being refferred to in the vernacular as their 'map of tassie'. the island/state doesn't get a lot of press here in Australia either, is often forgotton about and plenty of derogatory jokes are also made at the expense of the place and it's allegedly inbred and backward inhabitants.

    Rmember the swashbuckling movies of Errol Flynn? He was from Tasmania.
    heh... i was actually just teasing a little :joke: i'm fairly well versed in history, politics, metaphysics, and all that i really do know australia is really real ... but i can also converse with fictional worlds : and sometimes its a little hard to tell whats really real from whats not really real so you never know... i gotta keep checking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eden_medea View Post
    heh... i was actually just teasing a little :joke: i'm fairly well versed in history, politics, metaphysics, and all that i really do know australia is really real ... but i can also converse with fictional worlds : and sometimes its a little hard to tell whats really real from whats not really real so you never know... i gotta keep checking!
    I thought you were, but just in case.. I have met some people online who didn't know Australia was real. of course who can say what really is real.. if we got into metaphysics and started discussing numenal vs phenomenal reality we'd have a really interesting conversation, fail to find a definitive answer and seriously confuse many others here as to what we were talking about

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    Whoaaaaaaaaaa

    Im not married.I have no trouble getting dates with gg's.But I would like to find a cd for a long term committed relationship.And I would not cheat.Not all admirers are the same miss.

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    Well never swung that way with a man, I would like to try with a women first. I have plenty of guys I work with who want to have fun with me all the time, I just toss it to the side, a guy is a guy, and is hungry for one thing, I'm not giving it up until I really feel the need. I honestly just enjoy the dressing up and talking on the site, hoping to sometime soon hang out with some more cd's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaman1214 View Post
    Im not married.I have no trouble getting dates with gg's.But I would like to find a cd for a long term committed relationship.And I would not cheat.Not all admirers are the same miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eden_medea View Post
    a lot of gays will fight you just as strongly as a woman to keep you as a man.
    QFT as I've found this to be the case 9 times outta 10.

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    I know I'm older (old fashioned) but really, if you stayed away from married men then a lot of your problems wouldn't be there. I know men (and women) lie and cheat but when you find out they're married end it. Emotions and feelings be damned end it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by battybattybats View Post
    ....metaphysics and started discussing numenal vs phenomenal reality we'd have a really interesting conversation, fail to find a definitive answer and seriously confuse many others here as to what we were talking about
    Met a fisiks…I met a crossdresser or two or three or four...crap I don’t know how many I have met...so many hide it.

    noumenal vs. phenomenal reality…ohhhhh, that sounds like such fun. Noumenal reality? Noumenal, something that exists beyond the tangible world…I’m confused or am I…

    There is a section of the forum, or isn’t there, where you could start this thread battybattybats, add to the total confusion of this site…or not.
    I suddenly feel a case of the “matrix” taking hold…or maybe it’s salmonella….never could tell the difference.

    Seriously…I would make a good thread batty.

    Thinking outside of the box. Oh yes, the box…now where did I leave that box. I think it may be somewhere in the warehouse.


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    Being single and not in a LTR, I am more open to sexual relationships which are non-commital. It is what I prefer. One of the ladies (a lesbian) I'm involved with chose me because she didn't think that I would go crazy trying to make the relationship something more than it was. Sometimes we end up going home together but our friendship isn't based upon sex.

    One of my guy friends hasn't been the same since I had sex with him. He is consumed by it. It is all he ever thinks about. I don't even want to answer the phone when he calls because I know he only wants to talk to help himself get off. I don't do phone sex. He talks about love, wants to come by and generally makes me uncomfortable. Strangely enough, his wife is one of the (few) ladies that I am intimate with. My friendship with her is not based upon sex. It is just something that happens when the mood strikes.

    I am positive that he would leave his wife to be with me if I would only let him. The only reason that I agreed to have sex with him was to prove to myself and my GG friend before they married that he would be unfaithful if given the opportunity. Of course, she is unfaithful as well and most likely always will be. So given the limited sample of my own experience, yes, guys are mainly interested in the sex but that doesn't mean they don't want the LTR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battybattybats View Post
    Actually studies show women cheat about as much as men.
    Quote Originally Posted by DianaGomez View Post
    Its not just the studies that show this, common sense does as well. Either women cheat just as much as men or theres a small percentage of ****s who all the men sleep with, while the rest of the GGs are inmaculate loyal wives. Thats ilogical!
    Quote Originally Posted by battybattybats View Post
    But alas it's a common belief amongst many women I've met!
    It simply has to be true to some degree, just not to the degree that many GGs would have you believe.

    Obviously some people get a lot more sex than other people. The idea of a **** is not a myth. There exists an average number of sexual partners for the average person. Let's pretend the mean is 15 (skewed by super-****s) and the median is 10. There still exists a large number of people out there for whom the number is less than 5 (there are a lot of Amish people in Pennsylvania!) and a large number of people out there for whom the number is over 50.

    So, let's say that any person with more than 30 partners is a ****. If we could graph the number of partners people have, we would see that it was rather steep. People with more partners are by definition having more sex, so while the average person has had 15 partners, we would see that the average sexual encounter involves someone who has well over 30 partners.

    While ****s are by and large having sex mostly with other ****s, it is also true that if a total prude seeks out a new partner, that partner will usually end up being a ****.

    So there exists a small (maybe not that small) percentage of female ****s who a large percentage (not all) men sleep with.

    I know several years ago there were studies done that said that the average male loses his virginity before the average female does. That means that young male virgins are often screwing older female non-virgins.

    The numbers just don't have to necessarily be even between men and women. Even if every single person in the world were heterosexual, you'd still see major trends. There are more women than men who almost never have sex, and there are more women than men who compulsively will have sex with anyone (often with men who are with women who almost never have sex).

    Anyway, there's still a large myth portion behind it all. Many GGs like to call other GGs ****s. Even nice girls who wouldn't specifically call someone a **** will often speculate about the behavior of ****s in geneal. The most promiscuous GGs that I personally know would never admit to themselves that they were in the upper percentile of ****-dom. To feel better about themselves, they subconciously assume that a large percentage of women are having a lot more cheap sex than they are, which means that a large percentage of women are just nasty. Extremely ****ty girls have a lot of self-loathing misogyny (not that it's their fault -- most of them had a traumatic childhood).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenda View Post
    One of my guy friends hasn't been the same since I had sex with him.
    I'm intrigued by the huge number of women I have heard complain that, contrary to the stereotype, guys get way more attached than girls do after sex. They say that guys are the ones who can't separate sex and love.

    At first I thought this was some great hidden truth -- some kind of lie perpetuated by society. But I think in the end the truth is that people who have more partners are inherently less attached to people they have sex with. So, when a girl is complaining that a guy is totally in love with her and she just liked the sex, that's because the guy has had 4 partners in his life and still believes in love, and the girl has had 40 partners and is much more cynical.

    I'm not accusing you of projecting cynicism on this couple, though ... they sound plenty screwed up

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    Since I don't date men I can't say from experience, but a lot of men I know (both gay and straight) tend to play the field a lot.

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    Indeed, Even though I never met men when x-dressed, I received several messages (not from this list) from men who were exactly and uniquely interested by sex... And not even a nice courting leading to sex, but crude offers...

    And yet I think that I would like to be nicely seduced by a polite caring man, one who wouldn't jump on me or take me as a "sex toy".

    It may sound like being pretentious, but in my male life, I never had such an attitude towards a GG. And in my X-dresser's life neither, be it with a GG or with another X-dresser.

    Actually, I'm quite incapable of having a physical relation with a partner for whom I have no sentimental feelings.

    But perhaps this is my feminine side that surfaces...


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    Quote Originally Posted by racquel937 View Post
    ...The numbers just don't have to necessarily be even between men and women. Even if every single person in the world were heterosexual, you'd still see major trends. There are more women than men who almost never have sex, and there are more women than men who compulsively will have sex with anyone (often with men who are with women who almost never have sex)....
    Where do you get your information from, watching porno movies? You certainly like that label “****”.

    Since you want to use stats….This is, statistically, impossible (at this point in evolution)..."There are more women than men who almost never have sex, and there are more women than men who compulsively will have sex with anyone..."

    100 woman over here, 25 have sex, and 75 do not.

    100 men over there, 75 have sex, and 25 do not.

    You are trying to say that of those 25 women, more of them have sex, compulsively with anyone, than those 75 men?

    It is a fact, at this point in evolution, that men are not only more likely to have sex compulsively with anyone they are also more likely to have sex compulsively with anything…I’ll spare you the sheep jokes.

    You are referring to GGs here and not crossdressers? If you are referring to crossdressers (MTF) then I would agree because the male train of thought about sex is still there. Hey, blame evolution and the inherent need to keep this race evolving.

    I’ll skip the last 1.2 million years of evolution as a species, unless you need this explained to…I can provide you with some links. A new generation of humans come along every 23 years on average so it will be a very long time before GGs, if ever, catch-up to the North American male’s sexual exploits.


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    Last edited by Wickanne GG; 12-23-2007 at 06:56 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wickanne GG View Post
    100 men over there, 75 have sex, and 25 do not.
    But how many are lying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Golightly View Post
    But how many are lying
    Rotfl...yes...good point.


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    Maybe we just haven't gotten to the point of being accepted as a subculture/community yet. I hope this changes in the future. Maybe we could start by educating the public about us. It seemed to work with the gay/lesbian communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexotik View Post
    There's a theory that says that everybody is bisexual , but I think in the world there are ppl who are completely straight. On the contrary, there are men who would like to experience sth with other men , whether the latter be gay, cd or tv,but these experiences - most men know since the beginning- must be kept on the low, low.

    Yes, I think men especially those who are reaching their 40s are looking for other types of experiences, and this experiences are sex-related, i.e. sexperiences as I like to call them (not only these experiences but all type sexual experimentations). In order to fulfill this sexual craving they have to sneak out, because did the society the live in find out about their sexual preferences, the society, which sometimes as hypocrit as these men, would condemn them.

    However, I'm sure as there are men who look cds just for sex, there are other who must be in search for sth more than mere sex.
    When I have gone out dressed I often get hit on and asked if I wanted to go home with a guy, be bought a drink or even dance. They are almost always surprised that I actually just like women, dressed or not and are not there to pick up a guy. These guys are usually men with wedding rings and are trolling for a pickup. You see them making out in the corners of the bar! They also are surprised that I am not into going with them to "party". It is probably as much a new world for me as it is for them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wickanne GG View Post

    It is a fact, at this point in evolution, that men are not only more likely to have sex compulsively with anyone they are also more likely to have sex compulsively with anything…I’ll spare you the sheep jokes.

    You are referring to GGs here and not crossdressers? If you are referring to crossdressers (MTF) then I would agree because the male train of thought about sex is still there. Hey, blame evolution and the inherent need to keep this race evolving.

    I’ll skip the last 1.2 million years of evolution as a species, unless you need this explained to…I can provide you with some links. A new generation of humans come along every 23 years on average so it will be a very long time before GGs, if ever, catch-up to the North American male’s sexual exploits.
    Across the vast majority of animals it is the female that is more promiscuous and the male the jeolous one trying to maintain procreative hegemony.

    As for our evolutionary history, well there is one very contentious argument regarding the design of male genitalia that suggests that at one point orgys were a significant part of early human life to effect our anatomy... beyond that our closest relatives are the chimpanzee and the bonobo. A little look at either makes for some interesting speculation that does not necessarily bear out the 'all/most males are ****tier' hypothesis.

    There have been numerous examples of women who have abused animals, children etc sexually too. Women rape often too, but it goes vastly under-reported. Women watch porn (mostly on the net where they won't get caught, it's believed at least 1/3rd of porn viewers on the net currently are women). When it comes to surveys of peoples sex histories it was found men and women exaggerate their partners by about the same amount, men multiplying and women dividing based on expectations of them.

    As society becomes more open the myths about gender and sexuality are falling away. A recent survey of elderly women found more than 90% had pre-marital sex in their youth but wouldn't even admit it anonymously until recently!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericalynncd View Post
    Maybe we just haven't gotten to the point of being accepted as a subculture/community yet. I hope this changes in the future. Maybe we could start by educating the public about us. It seemed to work with the gay/lesbian communities.
    There needs to be some kind of organized "power structure" mimicing a state apparatus within societies created for and controled by "t-people", as the Indian Hijra's have had since the beginnings of Hindu society and was present in the religions of ancient Mesopotamia - the "priests" of Inanna-Ishtar were transvestite "eununchs" - one of the epithets of Inanna-Ishtar was "she who can change male to female and female to male" ... without some kind of strong organizational tactics we will always be marginalized and pushed into the closet of the sex industry. I agree that the public does need to be educated about us - I'm glad someone said it.

    Personal, the only girl I have ever been with lived like across the country - in texas - i live in ny - i saw her once every 6 months between the ages of 14 and 17... we met online, some how our parents let us visit each other - but besides that even though i have asked girls out i never got a very good response, i do have attraction to women still, not so much emotional but physical... when it comes to guys though the allure is much more intense because the attraction is strongly emotional and also just as physical as for a female... lately i was considering trying to find a gg to be with, just because it would make it easier to 'fit in' to society... i really have no desire to though, the draw of the idea of being with a guy is way too powerful
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