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    Wink What Is Passable

    Hello all,
    In my encounters with sister online and in person I hear alot of chatter of being a Non passable T-Girl. Well I only one thing to say, Phooie on That!!!
    To any sister out there who thinks that they are not Pasable All I can say is go shopping sometime to the Mall or Just take a walk down a Busy street. and look at all the Diffrent types of Women out there!!!!!
    Some are Knock outs and some well are just plain. I know we all would Like to be knock outs But lets look at this a little closer.
    we want to blend in and not be made. so looking like a Paris Hilton Knock off or a Oversized Goldie Hawn. will draw Undue attention to us and subject us to riddicule. I would like your Input on this subject. and your feelings on what it takes to be passable. Bottom line is in order to be PASSABLE it is 20% Looks and 95% ATTUDE that adds up to 115% yes we have to work hard at this but who said life would be Easy
    sorry for the rambling. Kisses to all
    Joanie

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    Smile In a prefect world...

    Here I sit... Six Ft Two inches tall, Ex railway shunting-yard worker and locomotive coupler, I mean to say I am a big person, I weigh 17 and a half Stone (about 245 lb's) 36 inch waist big shoulders, 18 inch neck, ... and I know for an absoloute fact... That I will never ever "pass"

    That said.... I'm not one who ever really felt the ever pressing need, it's not why I dress. I am certain that I am not alone however, in being someone that knows no matter what, short of miracle surgery (3 inches off my backbone, legs and arms please Doc... etc...) that it's just not gonna happen. I's never stopped me enjoying what I do though.
    In a perfect world, the whole clothing rights thing would be cool, and I could wear what I want... But I've long since accepted it's not gonna happen, so rather than asking society to bend to my wishes, I just do what I gotta do in spite of society, rather than in tune with it.

    I understand that for a lot of girls, going out dressed brings fear of attack... I'm thankfull that if I ever go out... and some retard try's to throw a punch at me for being different... theyre gonna come off worse. It's why I'm no longer afraid of the dark... the worst thing I could ever meet ... is ME


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    Can you describe the last person you walked past in the street? Passing is in the head not in what you look like.Confidence is everything. I know it's not easy but practice makes perfect.
    Just get out there and be who you wanna be!!!!
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    Do I pass? Maybe, maybe not. I agree with Ava's attitude and rerspect statements. As an example yesterday I met with a member of the local tri-ess society to be checked out for membership. There is no doubt in my mind that I was read by the waitress. She would not give me eye contact. But I looked good and acted as if I belonged so I had no trouble. She was still friendly even though she would not look me in the eyes. We had no trouble at all there.

    I know that there will be many here that will tell me that I am very passable. But I think I am begining to want just simple acceptance. even if given a bit grudgingly.
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    there are all shapes,looks and sizes of ggs out there.remember that
    femininity is so much more of a feeling than looks.
    hugs,karen

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    I totally agree, dressing to fit and not being self conscious minimizes being read. Being CD, I tend to notice obvious signs of TG's when out in guy mode. I once walked past a girl without any signs of being T, but just happened to see her face. It was obvious, at least to me, she was a boy. But had I not inadvertently seen her face, I would never have noticed her in the crowd of people walking by.

    But that habit of looking for signs of T's backfires occasionally. I once in guy mode approached a pretty girl, dressed a bit too nicely in heels, who I just "knew" was a T and asked her if she was a T-girl. She looked at me with a smile, and asked in a most definitely femme voice..."What's a T-girl?"

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    "Passable" is by definition the ability to pass as a woman.

    There are three essential elements:

    1. Physical features. Here I disagree with mand's observation that only a tiny minorty of men can pull this off. If you are built like an NFL linebacker or heavyweight contender, you obviously aren't going to be able to make it, but there are a lot of zaftig women out there, and if your goal is to pass as a real woman as opposed to your idealized image of the perfect woman, you have a shot. It helps to live in a city like Chicago - the "City of Big Shoulders" applies to both sexes here!

    2. Dressing right for the occasion. Here Ava is on the mark: unless you are going to a Hollywood premiere, dress down! If your objective is to pass as a woman at a suburban shopping mall, first go there and observe what the women are wearing, then put together an outfit like they're wearing. For example, before I figured out how to create feminine-looking hands, I always wore gloves, which was fine outdoors in January in Chicago but looks ridiculous inside a shopping mall, at least this time of year.

    3. Poise! No matter how fine you look, if you act like you're a guy, you will shatter the illusion. No matter how many times I do this, I always have butterflies when I first go out. One tip, if it's daytime: put on a pair of women's sunglasses before you head out the door. That way, you can look at people without appearing self-conscious, and see if they are staring at you in a funny way. If they are, you are not passable. If they aren't staring back at you, YOU ARE PASSABLE!

    Ask Windy

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    I don't know if I am passable or not, but I have observed many women and
    have noticed a whole range. One case in point, I was watching "Monster Garage", and when they introduced the people on the team, one was a women. I blinked my eyes a couple of times, before I relized that I was really looking at a women. She had to be the most masucalan women, I have ever seen. Tall, large muscular build, low voice, and large breasts. She was wearing a tight t-shirt. She was either this or a TS that did not turn out right. Anyway it seem all the other men accepted her and the host Jesse James seem to treat her like any other women that has been on his show. I wondered how many men watching, thought that the women was a women or a man in drag??
    I believe what other are saying about dress normally as a GG would, don't go overboard. If you blend in with your surrounding, then you don't stand out, and then your passible.
    When possible, I wear a pair of large pair of persciption sunglasses. It hides a lot of my features and makeup hides the rest. This way I don't have to do a lot of makeup. Just a little foundation, lipstick, and rouse. The glasses hide my eyes so I don't have to put on eye makeup. It makes me a lot more passible and it allows me to look at others and judge what they are thinking, when they look at me.
    I usually take short walks out and the other day I was walking down the side sidewalk ( I live on a corner lot) and a lady came out and got her mail. She looked up at me for a moment, then turned around and when back inside.
    My heart rate was already racing just from the walk, and when she look at me, I almost frooze, and my hands did start to shake a little. But when she just turned around and went back inside, I kinda told myself, "Wow, did I look like a women to her??"
    I think being passible, it large part presentation, attitude, style, and confidence in your self.

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    the only reason I can't be passable, because of my height... I'm 6'3...
    When I was 18, people thought I was a girl This was really nice. And I didn't have to do anything, not even wear a makeup. I was really fragile (since then, I've gained lots of weight) I have female arms with no muscles... (I was teased a lot in HS, because I looked like a girl) I'm weak like a girl, but tall like a guy. I don't have beard shadow (I'd have to stop shaving for about 3 days, before it will be visible) was teased for that. I have narrow shoulders, but my hips aren't wide either. I'm not a female, but my brain doesn't have some of those little advantages, that males brain usually has... I've have comments from male friends, that I drive like a girl. I can't point to north, and can't follow directions from males... "oh yeah, you go south of the town, then turn on highway 52, follow it for 8 miles, then turn north..." that just doesn't work. I like to ask females for directions. "Do you know where boat shop is? Yep, that place right behind it" that works better for me. In my psychology class, we had lecture about differences of brains... Teacher passed some tests, just for fun. Then I discovered, I can't rotate 3d objects in my mind, but I can see even smallest difference in colors... I pretty bad in math, but know 3 (human) languages, pretty bad with Data Structure, but way better with networking... WHAT AM I?
    Why I am this way? I wish I could pass... I would love to at least for a couple of day to live like a woman... Now I look more like a guy, but in 2003 I was mistaken for a girl... Last time. I was in the car (i wasn't even shaved) with my male buddy, waiting for his girlfriend, and when she came, she said "I see you got a company, who is she?" The guy starts laughing. "This is a guy?" she said, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you". I couldn't be more flattered. But I was in the car, she didn't see, how tall I was
    I've read all the posts in this thread, and it was really interesting to read them, many gals here were out and they sharing exvperience. Good exvperience, but I've never been out. I have no confidence... But I want to go out so bad, it is not even funny... Sorry, for this screwed up post, but even I don't know what am I Plus it is 4:30 in the morning

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    For all us tall gals here is some hope for us. This was sent to me in an email.

    The tallest and biggest woman in the world lives in Holland. She is

    7'4" and weighs 320.



    Now, before you look at her pictures, get a mental image of what you

    Think a woman who weighs 320 looks like............



    Got it?



    Ready?



    Here goes................
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Charlene

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    Only one words come to mind.


    [SIZE=5]DAMM[/SIZE]

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    Wow! she is really good looking, for 320lbs and 7'4... That makes me feel a little better. Maybe some day, I will be able to pass? Maybe someday I will find 6'3 GF, and her shoe size will be 13

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleneCD
    For all us tall gals here is some hope for us. This was sent to me in an email.

    The tallest and biggest woman in the world lives in Holland. She is

    7'4" and weighs 320.



    Now, before you look at her pictures, get a mental image of what you

    Think a woman who weighs 320 looks like............



    Got it?



    Ready?



    Here goes................
    Holy moly. Can you say breeding stock? Her kids could be NBA players for sure. :duh:

    Edit: or WNBA players

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    BunnyGG is lucky im in love with her, or its off to Holland for me. with my 6' 3" in heels id look normal.
    Charlene

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    Wow
    She can probably see me in England from up there !!!
    L&P
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    xx

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    Gads -- she would be the perfect girlfriend! Not only is she gorgeous, but no one would ever notice what I'm wearing when we walked side-by-side.
    “I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.”
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    Holy Moly! That woman was absolutely beautiful, gorgeous, salacious and a whole lot more. I'm only 5'11" with my 5" heels on and still probably only come up to her breasts.

    As for being able to pass as a woman Ava is right and so are a lot of you. Some of us males will have some fem features that help us to pass wether it's great cheeck bones, full lips, long eye lashes, shapely waist or legs or others but that is only a small part. In life even as a male attitude is everything. We look at ourselves and say I look good and feel great. Today nobody is going to push me around, I am feeling strong. Well attitude goes a long way in life and ladies if you are confident about yourself then nothing else or anyone matters.

    Walk with your heads held high and be proud of the women you have become.
    I see everyday that my alter ego Zaria is becoming more womenly everyday and I am now confident that I can walk down the street in my skirt and heels and be comfortable with all those around me watching me and wondering to themselves is she?

    Keep up the good work girls!!!

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    I agree that a high percentage of passing is about confidence and I know that if I feel 'in the zone' - I feel I'm passing better.

    The reality is that people are much more tuned in to the subtle gender differences between males and females - and it's not all about appearance and looks - though obviously you will do better if you look good and aren't built like a rugby lock forward. Its about a multitude of things - some which I now find very hard to define. I think I pass pretty well most of the time. I think I'm quite good at what I do. But if I'm passing even 80% - it is mainly because most people get a quick take of me - most are too busy with there own lives to take note - and I'm not interacting with them for any length of time.

    Fiona xx

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    MANY good points about passing/not passing. And although "attitude" may help or hurt, I'm sorry but its the visual that will betray you first. Your attitude willl only confirm what they THINK they see. But even if you get through those two doors (appearance + attitude) there is one more barrier that no one even mentioned: VOICE! Now that, sisters, is likely to be the coups d' gras when out shopping, dining, etc.
    Marie

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    The notion that I had to pass was one of the things that kept me in the closet long ago. After a few outings I realized that many people go about their own business and don't even know what's going on around them. But for those who did notice extremely few of them made any sort of comment. My outlook now is I don't care if I pass, I am me and this is how I dress and I don't give a rodents rump what people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleneCD
    For all us tall gals here is some hope for us. This was sent to me in an email.

    The tallest and biggest woman in the world lives in Holland. She is
    7'4" and weighs 320.



    Now, before you look at her pictures, get a mental image of what you
    Think a woman who weighs 320 looks like............

    Got it?

    Ready?

    Here goes................
    Oh. My. Gawd. She's adorable!
    Stephanie

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    Sorry Charlene - don't mean to pop your bubble, but this is a hoax, see:
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/tallwoman.asp

    She is actually 6'5' and lives in Las Vegas.... BunnyGG is safe (for now)

    DanaJ

    Quote Originally Posted by CharleneCD
    For all us tall gals here is some hope for us. This was sent to me in an email.

    The tallest and biggest woman in the world lives in Holland. She is

    7'4" and weighs 320.



    Now, before you look at her pictures, get a mental image of what you

    Think a woman who weighs 320 looks like............



    Got it?



    Ready?



    Here goes................

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    No bubble burst Dana. Even though not as tall as I thought, She would still make me look short. Vegas here I come!!! Oops better not let bunny see that.
    Charlene

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    ...and just think Charlene - Vegas is just up the road a little

    DanaJ

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    You are so bad Dana . Or is it im so bad
    Charlene

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