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    i just find it kinda funny that being skinny dressed in guy mode i get made fun and being skinny in girl mode i get told im envied....lol. its just strange how people perceieve me depending how im dressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather_Marie View Post
    It looks like we are about the same Sara Jessica I like where I'm at but I would like to lose more.
    That's my point. If you like where you're at, why do you want to lose more?
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    I think at certain point it becomes an issue of shape. We don't want to look just very thin with no booty; hence the term HOURGLASS. I think, to a certain extent, the more our hip is in line with our shoulders width, the better we look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sara Jessica View Post
    That's my point. If you like where you're at, why do you want to lose more?
    I need to keep myself healthy and it's not hard to lose the weight for me it just happens, there’s heart problems in my family (you have to keep it healthy you know) and just thinking of losing a little more just keeps me going. I just keep telling myself the more I work out I can fit into one less dress size it’s just motivation for me.
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    I am 6' and 156lbs and feel great. Two years ago I was at 190 and I felt slow and clumsy. A year ago I was at around 170 and feeling better. I eat plenty of food but my job is very active with a lot of climbing and constant moving. I am much better at my job at this weight and can fit into most any skirt or jeans I want! My SO is the only one who has ever said anything about it only because she liked me better at 190. She must like me now too though cause she will look at me and say I'm hot. We had a rule about me weighing more than her but I cant help it being my eating habits haven't changed.

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    I Had a Dream

    Last night I dreamt that I weighed 155..same as when I left high school...I should've followed my heart and started dressing as soon as I left home...now I weigh..oh..it's too PAINFUL to talk about it..I hate all you thin..well..nevermind..actually I love all of you and am soooo jealous...

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    skinny too

    I am 6'4" and weigh 175 to 180. I am somewhat fit form biking and my girlfriend is sometimes envious I think. She likes me to dress sexy though, and I enjoy it. I just wish I could pass, but too tall to even try I think.

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    not this girl. I'm manly when I'm manly. I'm 75%femme when I'm femme

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sara Jessica View Post
    And I'm often accused of trying to be too skinny in favor of my preferred gender presentation.
    Oh my, do I ever hear about this from my wife. If I skip lunch because work is too busy, my wife thinks that I'm trying to lose weight to appear more feminine. Heck, why would I want to? All of my bones already poke out and most cute clothes don't come lower than a size 0 anyway, so why would I want to limit my options? Not that I would tell her that, mind you. I don't want a skillet upside my head.

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    At 6'4 180 I've had a few GG's jealous of my legs and the fact I can eat anything and not gain weight

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    At 5'6" and 135 lbs, the wardrobe choices get a lot better! LOL. If only I didn't have such big feet, maybe I could find some shoes that are a little more stylish. Even a size 11 is limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathi Lake View Post
    Oh my, do I ever hear about this from my wife. If I skip lunch because work is too busy, my wife thinks that I'm trying to lose weight to appear more feminine.
    Our wives must be on the same wavelength because this is EXACTLY what I would hear from mine repeatedly!!! Not so much lately though. What she wasn't getting was that in reality, my weight had changed very little, if any, over the years. I think she finally understands that.
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    shoes

    Quote Originally Posted by erickka View Post
    At 5'6" and 135 lbs, the wardrobe choices get a lot better! LOL. If only I didn't have such big feet, maybe I could find some shoes that are a little more stylish. Even a size 11 is limited.
    I get my shoes from this company, I wear a 10.5 Mens and a 12 womans there is a good choice and fair pricing,
    My prefference is 5 in heels, tried 6 in once but can't straighten knees,

    http://www.pierresilber.com/
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    Thin is in

    At 5'7" I was at my best at about 155 pounds. I snuck into a form fitting size 11/12 denin dress. ( I wish I still hadn't purged the pictures) It was a pretty hot look too.

    Now I am a middle age 195 on a good morning. I wish I was thinner or as confident of my looks as some of you are. All you you girls, big or small ooze femininity. Someday I will be in your league.

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    Sorry to iterate and reiterate but

    bare height and weight figures really mean very little when we're talking about Trans-people and crossdressing.

    I've made this point in a few earlier posts, but what is important for wearing women's clothes is the ratio between hips and waist. For genetic women, the healthy relationship between waist and hips is 0.80 to 1.00 or below. For genetic men, the healthy relationship between waist and hips is 0.95 to 1.00. Thus, a waist of 30 and hips of 36, for example, which is a ratio of 0.83 to 1.00 is still a little to high to project a 'sexy woman' image.

    There's only one exercise I know which increases hip size and burns lots of calories to decrease waist size: Squats (or leg presses if you have suspect knees) with Heavy Weights and High Reps. For example, I'm 5-11, 152 (this morning) and have 42 chest, 29/30 waist, and 37 hips, and my leg workouts are leg presses with 300 pounds times 25 reps times 8-10 sets. My hips are the right size for Miss size dresses, but I can't claim that they look feminine when I'm as the phrase goes, butt naked.

    Jogging/Running, in my estimation, is the worst thing you can do. It melts pounds off your entire body, and especially the buttocks. Have you ever looked at a Marathoner, male or female?

    And,this doesn't even address the issue about wide shoulders, masculine rib cages, and biceps mass. Even if we starve ourselves, so long as we work out our upper bodies and/or have jobs or recreational pursuits which exercise the arms, shoulders and pectorals, we're not going to look truly feminine even if our waist/hip ration is fairly good. Even if we totally ignore upper body exercises, our shoulders are still slightly structurally different, and wider than genetic females.

    For my part, I have an addiction to BP's, Lats work, and light weigh/high reps biceps curls and military presses. I will never pass in a sleeveless dress! On the other hand, I have a closet full of expensive business suits and buttondown shirts which I can't afford to replace. :-))

    There's a reason why TV shows like CSI, NCIS, Bones, et al, all feature forensic scientists who can tell in less than a minute whether a bone from a dismembered body is male or female.

    However, because of differences in skeletal structure and muscular attachment points, we usually look a lot better in heels than genetic women,whose achiles tendons are much shorter, which tends to make their legs look thick. Woo Hoo!

    There are a zillion sites which show up on a Google search which will calculate a person's Body Mass Index (BMI), which is a general indicator of overall health. If your BMI is under 21, you are probably too thin, and if it's over 25 you are probably too healthy. If it's over 30 you are probably clinically obese. However, people with gracile skeletal structure can be healthy a little below 21, and people with robust skeletal structure can be healthy a little above 25. Anyone who wants to live a maximum amount of time on the planet Earth should do this calculation once a year, at least. Generally, the closer you can get to 22 or 23 on the BMI chart calculation, the healthier you are.
    Last edited by StarrOfDelite; 11-02-2009 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ View Post
    well I'm 5'8 and so big little people get stuck in orbit around me
    MJ...I love your sense of humor.

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    Until I was about 28 years old, I weighed 125 lbs. I'm about 5' 9", and I was very undersized for a guy. And it was pretty great for crossdressing. I filled out shortly after that, and put on 15 lbs. I was at 140 for several years, and I had another growth spurt (mostly out!), and now I hover around 160 to 165. I'm still not huge, but I sure wish I was still around 140 lbs. But then, I'm not complaining about it too much, since I still have a wealth of blessings when it comes to being able to pull off the girl thing pretty well.

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    I'm 5'11" and 177 (this morning). I hope t be 175 by this weekend but gosh it is hard to diet when the SO is not into it.
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    Exclamation Transman alert!

    Could you lovely ladies clarify something for me? I'm a bit confused. It seems that most who pine for "skinny" are pining for it because they want to have a more "feminine" body.

    That is counter-productive action and contradictory thinking. The natural female body is meant to have meat, fat, and curves. That is, indeed, what the female body is.

    The current societal standards of "feminine" beauty is an unnatural* and unachievable goal. The concept of women being skinny--let alone to that degree--is a product of patriarchy and capitalistic consumption. The ideal, starting in the Industrial Revolution, was designed to produce an image of prepubescent helplessness and inferiority. Throughout history, women have never been these things. If they had, they wouldn't have earned (and continue to earn) the rights they have today. Making things worse, beauty and cosmetic companies have seen the market in this push for unrealistic beauty and are quiet successfully making a profit off of it.

    The current standard, indeed, helps explain why transmen are prone to eating disorders during puberty and onward. We are trying to keep an adolescent boy body and trying to keep away the weight and curves that would constitute a female body.

    Genetic females with bodies that are considered to "naturally" meet with today's beauty standards have been known to suffer from adrenal hyperplasia (if my memory serves me), which is a condition in which the woman's body produces much more testosterone than it "should," thereby creating the ironically "ideal female" body.

    Either way, models with the impossible slimness and large breasts are almost always unnatural. Why? Breasts are largely made up of fat. So don't fall into that trap, either. Usually to achieve both standards, surgery has to be performed on both areas.

    So love yourselves, ladies. There's nothing wrong with you.

    *"Unnatural" in the sense that it doesn't happen to the bulk of individuals in question, not that it never happens or is a freak-of-nature occurrence when it does. It does happen, but is not the norm via nature.

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    I can't answer for others, Ze, but;

    Or, I SHOULD SAY, butt!

    Where I keep my extra pounds, is NOT in the correct location to appear more fem. Females put it on their hips, thighs, and upper arms, generally.
    Whereas I put it on my WAIST and belly! Exactly the WRONG places!

    Then, there's also the fact that fem clothing looks better WITHOUT bulges! This is tru for ANYONE wearing it!

    Unless the bulges r in the hip/butt and breast areas!:D
    U can't keep doing the same things over and over and expect to enjoy life to the max. When u try new things, even if they r out of your comfort zone, u may experience new excitement and growth that u never expected.

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    At 5'6" and 155 I say fie on all you thin people. You can probably eat all you want and never gain an ounce. To add insult to injury food is probably not important to you. I say "Come on lets go get a banana split" and you reply "Oh not today, maybe tomorrow or next week or next year." Woe is me why do I love to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docrobbysherry View Post
    Or, I SHOULD SAY, butt!

    Where I keep my extra pounds, is NOT in the correct location to appear more fem. Females put it on their hips, thighs, and upper arms, generally.
    Whereas I put it on my WAIST and belly! Exactly the WRONG places!

    Then, there's also the fact that fem clothing looks better WITHOUT bulges! This is tru for ANYONE wearing it!

    Unless the bulges r in the hip/butt and breast areas!:D
    Yes yes, but we're missing some important factors here.

    There's nothing wrong with wanting to lose weight when it won't negatively affect health. However, there's a huge difference between wanting to lose weight in male-specific areas and wanting to become "female thin."

    Further, "feminine" clothes, as we currently know them, were specifically designed to fit women who fall into the current "feminine" ideal. Which is why they hang better on thin bodies, we're conditioned into believing that's the best way clothes should look, etc. It helps perpetuate the whole issue.

    All sorts of things going on in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze View Post
    Further, "feminine" clothes, as we currently know them, were specifically designed to fit women who fall into the current "feminine" ideal. Which is why they hang better on thin bodies, we're conditioned into believing that's the best way clothes should look, etc. It helps perpetuate the whole issue.
    So what do you suggest? That we not buy those clothes designed to fit that "feminine ideal" ? I am not gonna buy that slinky little cocktail dress because it was designed to fit some unreal expectation of what the female body should look like. But gosh.. it fits me so well. It's all just a bunch of hype, so I am not going to bother. Conditioned or not ZE it's what's on the racks at the stores. If the majority of people like it.. the majority will buy it and the designers will continue to put them out. whether or not it perpetuates the issue is neither here nor there..unless one decides to stage some sort of personal protest... Right or wrong.... it is what it is.


    Starr

    Weight lifting adds muscle mass. I don't want to look like a female body builder so that my clothes fit. I totally disagree with your statement regarding weights and running. I run 5 miles a day, and never ever lift weights. At 5'7" and 126 pounds my BMI is right at 20 and my hip to waist ratio is .84
    Running,kickboxing,stretching, and toning exercises, along with propper diet help me keep my figure without losing too much weight in my rear or bulking up my arms or upper body. Working my abs keeps my tummy flat.
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    I have lost some weight lately, well 17LBS to be exact, but I am still 5'9 and 190lbs. most of that though is pretty evenly distributed with just a little pudge around the edge. Hmmm I guess the army helped me after all

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    My recently announced cross-dressing has inspired both my SO and I to get rid of the considerable "nesting weight" we've both put up. Having experienced it for the past five years the time has come for a change; It's just not comfortable to be overweight. Hard to say what about the crossdressing has inspired the change- maybe the increased level of communication and not assuming we know all there is to know about each other.

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