The problem with being a real woman

[RobertaFermina]

When I see women, as a GM in MaleBeing, I see her for who she is inside by the energy she radiates, as well as her appearance.

I also see her as someone I would be judged for associating with.

If I am attracted to a voluptuous woman, I need to weigh whether my fulfillment with her outweighs my fear of being judged by other people for 'settling' and not seeking out a more challenging conquest. I actually have this thought pattern learned into my psyche - appalling as it sounds.

I experienced this with my ex-fiancee. I met her on the phone and had a brilliant 45 minute conversation with her, and invited her to a date, so we could get to know each other better. I liked her so much, I couldn't just put the phone down after saying 'perhaps we'll meet someday.' I was so glad, giddy even, when she accepted, and amazed at my (relative to my patterns) forwardness.

When I went to the Tea House, and went to the front door, I peeked in, and saw a bright freckled red-head seated at a table, and no one else. I also saw that she was above 200lbs and about 5'2" tall.

I hesitated, and checked in with my gut. I reminded myself that here was a person I was so impressed by that I arranged my own blind date, and here I was feeling judgement of her. Whatever I thought about it, I stepped forward into six years of bliss, learning, misery, and learning that I reflect on with joy and sadness, and no regret. She is still voluptuous, and if she did not have a boyfriend, and she would have me, I would seriously consider getting back together. Love Remains.

All that time my connection was to her as a person, and my desire was to make something of our lives, support her in her dreams, get her support for mine...alongside my desire to flee from the hurts and confusions that are inevitable in relationship.

Her weight was never an issue during those six years, yet I once stood at a threshold, considering whether to cut that possibility off, in judgment of her appearance.

What made the difference? The Golden Rule. I wouldn't want to be judged that way, I'd want a chance to show someone who I really am, why shouldn't she have that chance. Game Over. We both won.

Roberta

[Sheila]

I am one of the fat ugly women of which you speak, but, I have the heart of a lioness (and the temper to match), the gentlness of gossamer, and one of the kindest men on earth by my side who just happens to be drop dead gorgeous and has incredible taste and me to top it off

[Iniquity Blonde GG]

me to jess , iam a big fat minger :D but ive the heart of a pussycat, and i care about people, and a big softie

[Sheila]

wicked u forgot blonde to boot

[Sandra]

Gimme a break! I've been single for 26 years now, after 17 years of marriage.
Just try and find an attractive woman over 40, with a decent figure, who dresses well, heels, dresses, makeup, etc, who has some interests, besides grandkids, shopping and bingo. One of the main reasons I dress up, is because most women dont!

Perhaps you shouldn't be so picky :rolleyes:

[SusanTL]

Hi.

What ever problems a GG has. I would take them in a nano second to be a real GG woman.

Susan

[Sherlyn]

I'd just like to know why ..the person who stirred the pot ....is avoiding his issues so far ??

[Sheila]

Active Members: 6,802 and less than 100 of those are GG's and you wonder why??????????

[Sherlyn]

I think Jesse 69 has a little to much starch in those extreme suits ...losin' up those collars ...

[TV Wannabe]

Well - I think the big problem with being a woman is -- guys! Like so many men are unattractive or losers (when women think of income) that finding the right guy is so hard! And sometimes the handsome hot guys are gay or crossdressers (huh?).

Like... aren't all the men Britney Spears has been with kinda ugly (my opinion)? The guys she has been with lately (after Federline) are ugly! Like why can't a hot woman like her find a nice hot guy? Obviously, Britney has poor taste in guys.

I sometimes pretend I'm a woman looking for a man and only a few times I see men that I'm attracted too (if I were a woman). It makes me wonder sometimes when I see a beautiful woman with an average, or ugly, or fat guy -- makes me wonder what she sees in him!

What do you other crossdressers think of guys in general?

All of this seems really shallow, I mean their are hundreds of guys on this website with loving supportive wives that accept them for who they are not what the media says that they should be. I think you should consider media portrayl of what a man really is and what a human definition of a man is.

[Samantha Jane Foster]

I think K-Fed is kind of cute, actually. Justin Timberlake was more annoying to me. But I'm a huge Brit Brit fan so I shouldn't go off on this topic.

Like most Britney fans often do, I like to quote Bertrand Russell: "For my part I distrust all generalizations about women, favourable and unfavourable." And the same for men. Which is why stand-up comics who do the men-are-like-this, women-are-like-that routine don't appeal to me. Each person has an individual experience, shaped by external and internal factors.

Or, to quote another philosopher, "I'm not a girl, not yet a woman."

[Joy Carter]

Jess and WB will you guys stop !:Angry3: Everyone has qualities that out shine the so-called bad one's. I don't know what Jess looks like but you must be a fabulous woman to be with Clair. And WB you look really great and you have such a great Witt about you. I'd not hesitate to walk down Caranby street with you.:D

[Iniquity Blonde GG]

[quote=Joy Carter;722728]Jess and WB will you guys stop !:Angry3: Everyone has qualities that out shine the so-called bad one's. I don't know what Jess looks like but you must be a fabulous woman to be with Clair. And WB you look really great and you have such a great Witt about you. I'd not hesitate to walk down Caranby street with you.:D[/quoto
oh my :blushing:

[Bev06 GG]

Periods and the price of Tampax. Sorry to lower the tone, but its soooo true.
Bev

[Bev06 GG]

Gimme a break! I've been single for 26 years now, after 17 years of marriage.
Just try and find an attractive woman over 40, with a decent figure, who dresses well, heels, dresses, makeup, etc, who has some interests, besides grandkids, shopping and bingo. One of the main reasons I dress up, is because most women dont!

Awww Melinda,
Im 46 dont like bingo, love dressing up, dont have Grandkids, am not overweight and have lots of interests. Now we mustn't put people into categories must we, that would be like saying that all cross dressers are sexual perverts wouldn't it.
take care sweetlegs
Bev

[great gg]

try menopause, the losing fight with gravity, the cost of all things female and having to put up with jerks who worry about breasts, cleavage, looks and all the superfiicial stuff. what makes a person like that think that he could attract a good looking woman? many a beautiful woman passes any number of men by, not because if how the men look, but because of how they think, and act. my 2 cents.

[Sierra Evon]

many times I've put myself in as thinking Okay !!!!!, now if I were a gg and looking for a man , ??, I dont like what I see, out their , ditto , lots of losers ......

[Tamera]

Lots of Estrogen flying!!!

[Sheila]

Okay your female, now face the fact that your partner is a CDR. How u gonna cope with that

[Jesse69]

Well - I think the big problem with being a woman is -- guys! Like so many men are unattractive or losers (when women think of income) that finding the right guy is so hard! And sometimes the handsome hot guys are gay or crossdressers (huh?).

Like... aren't all the men Britney Spears has been with kinda ugly (my opinion)? The guys she has been with lately (after Federline) are ugly! Like why can't a hot woman like her find a nice hot guy? Obviously, Britney has poor taste in guys.

I sometimes pretend I'm a woman looking for a man and only a few times I see men that I'm attracted too (if I were a woman). It makes me wonder sometimes when I see a beautiful woman with an average, or ugly, or fat guy -- makes me wonder what she sees in him!

Another problem with being a woman is the preoccupation society has for slim women. Women are so obssessed with weight because lots of guys hate fat women! So many women's magazines talk about weight loss and diets!

What do real women have to say here? Opinions wanted!

What do you other crossdressers think of guys in general?

Hey, this is all I said when I started this topic. I didn't condemn fat ugly women. I said society puts so much pressure on women to be slim, and that a lot of guys generally don't like fat women. But it's funny how being fat doesn't affect a guy - women would still like him. But there are few men that like fat women too.

I've had very few relationships with women. And 2 were slightly overweight but I didn't hate them for it. And one beautiful girl - turned out our personalities didn't match.

I was just stating that it's hard for a woman to find the right guy, and that when I look at guys (pretending I'm a woman) - I find a lot that I don't like.

.. And that Britney Spears has poor taste in men!

[Shelly Preston]

WARNING



Please keep this thead on topic and free from insults or it will be closed

[tvbeckytv]

how can a straight guy, non transsexual even begin to imagine what women will see in men....you arnt wired to get it.
this is a wierd topic..thats if ive understood what the topic is

[Sheila]

????????????????????

[Sherlyn]

How can you state >>>
I was just stating that it's hard for a woman to find the right guy, and that when I look at guys (pretending I'm a woman) - I find a lot that I don't like.

Seems pretending makes assumptions !!!!

[Nigella]

... Hey, this is all I said when I started this topic. I didn't condemn fat ugly women.

To make a comment like this is inflamatory in itself. What right has any of us to call another human being "fat or ugly" Who gave us the right to label another?

I said society puts so much pressure on women to be slim, and that a lot of guys generally don't like fat women.

Society does not control us, we do, you can tell "society" where to get off, I certainly do". Did you do a poll of guys to ask them if they "don't like fat women"?

I was just stating that it's hard for a woman to find the right guy, and that when I look at guys (pretending I'm a woman) - I find a lot that I don't like.

Only one person can say "its hard to find the right guy" and that is the woman doing the looking, her taste in men may be so precise that it could be hard to find the "right guy". Ok so when you look at a guy (pretending that your a woman, of course) what do you look for, and what do you see that you don't like

.. And that Britney Spears has poor taste in men!

Who is Britney Spears???