Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
It does, if the person dresses specifically to portray a different gender than assigned at birth and does not do it on a lark. We all choose to present ourselves in a manner that reflects who we feel we are.

Even if a CDer dresses purely for fetish or sexual reasons in private, the expression of his sexuality is deeply ingrained with who he feels he is as well, even if it is still at a deep subconscious level. IMO. Now if the fetish is interchangeable with other fetishes, such as latex or any number of other non-gendered fetishes, or even items of clothing be they shoes or gas masks, then I agree such a person does not cross the gender lines. But, a fetish CD who gets off on the "idea" of being a female (autogynephilia) most definitely crosses the gender barriers. IMO.



No. As a few others have pointed out before me, physical gender has been defined through primary sexual characteristics, i.e, having a penis or a vagina. It has nothing to do with "sexuality", or a person's sexual orientation. A TS wants to change her primary sexual characteristics to match who she feels she is internally. "Transsexual" is a perfectly good description for this.

I agree that modern forms need to change their question from 'what sex are you', to 'what gender are you', when they ask whether someone is "M" or "F", and also they need to include another box "B", for a combination of both. Or, "B" could stand for bigender. But, I think it will take time for society in general to come to accept the concept since it goes against everything we know about evolution (in a general sense) and also since most people do identify as the gender that matches their primary sexual characteristics, independent of their sexual preferences.



Many TSs have told me they don't understand CDers and I can certainly understand why this is. Both TSs and cisgenders fit within the binary view of gender: either/or, male/female. A MtF TS is solidly on the "F" end of the spectrum (as is the FtM TS who is solidly on the "M" side). But, there are in fact many gray shades and gender mixes in between. It's just not accurate to say that all CDs are male identified who dress for fetish or feel-good reasons. I believe there are more than just the two, M/F genders. I do see bigenders and dualgenders as being a gender, an identity, all their own that is a mix of the two, and this alone signifies they do cross the standard M/F gender identities.
Reine, I think you may have breezed over what other people said (and I was implying):

Quote Originally Posted by SweetIonis View Post

I think you misinterpreted what was said. Here's the exact quote:

"It confuses people to think that it's sexuality, not gender identity (between your legs vs between your ears)."

Sophie_C said that it CONFUSES people to think that it's sexuality, not that it is sexuality.
I'm just pointing out an angle to better negate the misconceptions - I am not agreeing with them! If 'sex' can be avoided as part of the description, it helps. "Primary sexual characteristics" can be described as "genitalia" in the context of what you said, keeping the focus on on the heart of the matter, which is gender, which is what the body changes are addressing. I don't mean to go into deeper into this, since it's a sore spot, being transgendered and closeted myself, but you can't give the situation justice in a word or two, so I don't demand perfection. It's just something that could help.