Young(er) and not feeling in place here

[tamarav]

[SIZE=3]Honey,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]You are so fortunate to have discovered this avenue at such a young age. Believe it or not, many of us were in your platforms at your age and wondered exactly the same thing, but we didn't have this forum to bring us together. Many of us have been at it for a long time and almost come to tears hearing from you youngsters. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Many of us thought we were totally alone in our feminine world and the Internet has helped us discover that the evolution continues. Even though I work as a hair stylist and meet many young people daily, I have yet to discover one that thought what we do as too far out there. You are a much more forgiving generation than those in the past.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]As a grandfather at 60, I do have a distinct love for the younger years and try to hold onto them as much as possible, realizing that time is taking its toll. Relish your years and discover as much as you can and help anyone that you encounter along this road.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Your granny,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Tami[/SIZE]

[joselyn318]

Just wondering if anyone shares my sentiment..

I find this whole 'walking in heels/pantyhose' thing is a common theme here... in my eyes, its not very common for real women to be running around in heels and pantyhose. Maybe since I'm younger though (22) things are different, but I feel a distinct separation from most of this community.

To me, casual crossdressing is jeans, boots, girly band tee, hairstyle, eyeliner, mascara, little cover up for beard stuff. And the club/dressy type stuff would be skirt, corset, again boots, fishnets, more makeup than I would for a casual look. You know.. just like other real women I see. Am I one of the only ones approaching it this way? Everyone seems to try and look like a secretary or some business woman.

Anyone else like me out there who looks at alot of these threads and goes "whut?". Sticking to the -chan boards (for the younger age group) is getting stagnant and I'm personally getting sick of all the nudity they post there and the fact that straight up transitioning/transitioned TGs have conquored control over casual/general crossdressing discussion.

I share pretty much the same thoughts. I am 25 and the majority of fashion topics discussed on here pertain to a much older generation. IMHO, heels and pantyhose have not been in fashion for the younger generation in ages. Nobody, around my age wears pencil skirts and blouses with pantyhose and high heels. This is not an insult, but I just wish there was a place for younger cd's could talk on here about current casual fashion.

[gretchen_love]

Why don't we start one...even if it just starts as a thread, we can talk about issues for us younger girls that need tips on how to start, where to shop, places to go, things like that....

[crusadergirl]

I'm at the young age of 27 and sometimes i feel alittle out of place here. Mainly b/c i'm still pretty new to all the girls fashion thing. I didn't grow as a girl so i don't relate to well with others, b/c they know way more about this stuff then i do. As for wearing heels i like the look but i can't wear them everyday. It takes time to get use to wearing girl clothes when your not use to it. Recquel said it best i understood what she was saying better then then some of the other girls on here. And i was never hiding i post on the treads i like are have something to say on that subject.

[MentalMercury]

I share pretty much the same thoughts. I am 25 and the majority of fashion topics discussed on here pertain to a much older generation. IMHO, heels and pantyhose have not been in fashion for the younger generation in ages. Nobody, around my age wears pencil skirts and blouses with pantyhose and high heels. This is not an insult, but I just wish there was a place for younger cd's could talk on here about current casual fashion.

This person understands why I made this post in the first place. There is a group of us who don't quite fit in with the majority of this site, and had I not made this thread, this person would have continued to feel out of place like me probably. I didn't mean for it to turn into people trying to defend themselves left and right. I didn't attack you, I just don't identify with your style. And for those of you who are in the same boat, thanks for making yourselves known.

[MentalMercury]

Why don't we start one...even if it just starts as a thread, we can talk about issues for us younger girls that need tips on how to start, where to shop, places to go, things like that....

I see lots of misguided younger people than myself on the -chan boards who could use this sort of thing.. and if it existed here, I would link to it on those boards and bring them here. Also it would be great for like-minded younger people to know where you can go to express yourself like that, get togethers, events, parties, etc.

Also I'm a noob to this forum, not sure how to appeal to the mods for this sort of thing.

[Ayame]

If one of those started that would be great because its hard to talk about what I like to wear or whats going on because I have more of a gothy kind of look when cross dressing and most people are older or talk about things like their kids and stuff. Which there is nothing wrong with but it would be better to talk to people who are around my age who understand what I'm going through.

[Raquel June]

IMHO, heels and pantyhose have not been in fashion for the younger generation in ages.

That's simply not true. Just because heels aren't casual doesn't mean they're not in fashion. Do you work in any kind of a professional environment? What kind of shoes do girls in their early to mid 20's wear?

I work in a rather casual professional business environment. Girls who don't have to wear anti-static shoes usually wear high heels. Even if they're wearing capris or nice jeans. Even if they're 22 and just finished college. Even if they're 20 and an intern. I'm talking about very attractive girls who want to look nice and be taken seriously, not dress like some high school kid with an attitude problem.

Seriously, there's a large area between sloppy-casual girl in a T-shirt and super-formal business girl with a blazer and skirt. That area is mostly filled by girls who wear nice shoes. That often means heels.

What kind of shoes do you think girls in their mid 20's wear during the day and/or to social events?

[TSchapes]

This person understands why I made this post in the first place. There is a group of us who don't quite fit in with the majority of this site, and had I not made this thread, this person would have continued to feel out of place like me probably. I didn't mean for it to turn into people trying to defend themselves left and right. I didn't attack you, I just don't identify with your style. And for those of you who are in the same boat, thanks for making yourselves known.

Maybe we need to do a better job of listening to the younger gals here and try to understand what their needs and desires are. I've read the posts here and even though some of the posts sound a bit defensive, I think us older gals were just trying to let you know where we're coming from.

Some of the defensiveness comes from envy in that when we were your age things were really different. In the 1970's and 80's the only way to find like minded individuals was to go to a porno shop and find magazines that had ads for social clubs. And if those social clubs weren't in your area, you had to drive sometimes hundred of miles to get to one of their meetings. All purchases were either in drab, with a lot a flack or mail order w. snail mail. There were rip-off companies that showed you some wonderful breast forms only to deliver crap. And they new since you didn't want your little secret known, they didn't have to cater to your complaints.

Now I'm not telling you this to make you feel sorry for us, just to understand what trials and tribulations we've had to go through and where some of this defensiveness comes from.

Like good parents we've always wanted things to be better for our children, and you are our children and I'm so glad that you don't have to go through all the B***Sh** we did. So please stay and engage us, we need to learn from you too!

Love, Tracy

[LizSummers]

I'm 24, and I've been lurking on these boards for a long, long time! The past 3-4 years, I think! I'm still trying to find my style - I started off when I was 18 - very goth/fetishy stuff but I'm branching out now - I think mostly with office-type wear. In an ideal world, I'd go around dressed in a skirt and heels all the time, though drab from the waist up. At home, though, it's wigs and breastforms, stockings and skirts when the mood strikes me

I've felt out of place here myself - I suppose it's been difficult for me to connect with the older generation of CDs here, for whatever reason. It's good to see that there's actually a younger crowd out there (in here!) - makes me feel a lot less alone

[fay]

Go for it! A Y(oung)MTF board alongside this one. Why not if others approve?

I'm think it's 'each to his own' in terms of what you wish to look like or emulate...personally I like TS Alexis Saige and the pink/black colour combo etc. so I have one pair of 3.5" heel boots in those colours but that's it as far as heels go. I just want to be comfortable mentally and physically with what I'm wearing.

Some of us are interested in younger person's fashion because we're interested in fashion in general.

[Rachel in pantyhose]

All we want is that people should let us dress however we want! No body should tell us how to dress. So young girl just dress the way you want to.

[MJ]

well why don't you post some pictures and i am sure the younger girls will do the same . i hope i don't offend but hey i have no idea what the younger girls wear . you can teach me .

[Julie York]

Go for it! A Y(oung)MTF board alongside this one. Why not if others approve?

Ah pervert heaven.


Are you ready for the PMs you might get?

I heartilly approve of your need, and intentions. But I think it wise to stay close to the old crinklies.

[LizSummers]

I see lots of misguided younger people than myself on the -chan boards who could use this sort of thing.. and if it existed here, I would link to it on those boards and bring them here. Also it would be great for like-minded younger people to know where you can go to express yourself like that, get togethers, events, parties, etc.

Also I'm a noob to this forum, not sure how to appeal to the mods for this sort of thing.

I completely agree! I'd love a place where I could befriend some similar-aged CDs to talk with about stuff And get some better outfit ideas!!! :D

[Kayla Shadows]

I dont have a lot of clothes yet but I dont think Ive grown up yet,lol.Regular wear I could se jeans,boots and a cool band tee.For clubbing Im kinda into skirts,knee high boots and a cool top to go with it.The style I lean towards is more of a gothic look.

[LizSummers]

I'm unlucky enough to be incredibly hairy all over :/
I will de-hair my legs fairly frequently, but I'm quite happy with the rest of it on my arms, chest, etc. (but not the face!) So when I do dress up, I need something that'll at least cover my arms - but then, I think I look ridiculous with even a knee-length skirt and full-length sleeves :S
I hadn't thought about girly jeans at all...

[MentalMercury]

Go for it! A Y(oung)MTF board alongside this one. Why not if others approve?

Ah pervert heaven.


Are you ready for the PMs you might get?

I heartilly approve of your need, and intentions. But I think it wise to stay close to the old crinklies.

We grew up with the internet for the most part and can handle our own safety. You think the chan boards are any better? People like me have to wade through the TS camwhoring posts to get any serious talk done, a board for young people or new starters would be an upgrade for sure, so can anyone answer then, how does one appeal to the mods for the creation of such a board?

[renee99]

We grew up with the internet for the most part and can handle our own safety. You think the chan boards are any better? People like me have to wade through the TS camwhoring posts to get any serious talk done, a board for young people or new starters would be an upgrade for sure, so can anyone answer then, how does one appeal to the mods for the creation of such a board?

Well, there are legal concerns thanks to "MySpace" and kiddie porn laws recently passed.

[shirley1]

i dont really get where your coming from personally - i am a fair bit older than you but i dont think my interest in what to wear dressed has changed since i was 18 to be honest i still look at what young ggs here in britain are wearing ie tight jeans short denim skirts flat boots heeled boots strappy tops t shirts in fact if i was 18 now my taste wouldnt be any different to what it is now i defy ageism and i dont fall into any age bracket male or female i dress how i want - dont tar everyone with the same brush i'm 40 goin on 25 so what !

[gretchen_love]

I think sticking to the older ladies here is a great idea, but I think also that younger girls wear different things that the older ones (obvious really). I personally have clothes from work attire to casual jeans and cute shirts...also love skirts of all lengths and heels of all heights, so there goes the whole thing about younger girls not wearing heels!!!

[Stormgirl]

Is 29 young or am I too old for you all now?

[Ibuki_Warpetal]

Maybe it's just where you live, but in my neck of the continent heels are very popular. Hoseiry is also common.
Maybe it's because of the weather.
Maybe it's because it's stylish.
Maybe girls just like to feel sexy in different ways.
I don't know. I just know what I like and I like a wide variety of things. I'm sure the average girl my age is the same way, as well are most people.
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While I do feel out of place at this forum as I am not in the majority age range, I'm not sure what a new sub-forum would do to help that. I don't think it would be fair to exclude the majority of users for the sake of a few, and if anyone could have their input on it what would be the point then?
I do understand your point of view, but you have to remember we are part of the ADHD generation. Even I only visit this site rarely. I don't think a young people section would get enough use.

That said, I'm totally in need of more CD friends right now, just like you.

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Erm, this post was pretty much just me splattering my thoughts onto the keyboard. I tend to do that. Sorry if it doesn't make quite enough sense.

[TracyH]

This place isn't bad. The language controls are a little stricter than you're probably used to, and nobody knows what "it's a trap" means, but there are cool people here. I'm closer in line to the kind of crossdresser you are: I don't worry much about looking completely like a female, and I don't usually wear wigs or makeup. Still, that doesn't make us any less in the group.

[victoriamwilliams1]

[SIZE=3]Honey,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]As a grandfather at 60, I do have a distinct love for the younger years and try to hold onto them as much as possible, realizing that time is taking its toll. Relish your years and discover as much as you can and help anyone that you encounter along this road.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Tami[/SIZE]

First to Tami, 60! I never would have guessed, it makes me wonder if we age less than none tg/cd/ts.

Now the rest of the message:

I think back to when I was younger and I dress as the girls did back then which was dresses and skirts of the popular girl style which was not so different from our mothers.

Todays youth have a different style and you should dress as your age group. Being this is the year I turn 38 know I do not undersand the pants hanging down from the men and some of the clothes that women wear.