I won't call you "boomer" if you don't call me "auntie".
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Just feelin the love honey,
sugar
Breath of fresh air in this thread. Nice to know I'm not the only one who does not dress over the top. I do not wear heels, hose, etc... Mostly jeans, t-shirt. mascara/eyeliner.
Women who wear pants and skirts are shocked, just shocked a husband would do the same thing.
Understood. I try to dress stylishly, which is to say I like to look classy but also appropriate for my age and income bracket, if that makes sense. I also know what doesn't look good on me and avoid that stuff. I wear hosiery only with certain outfits, because without hosiery the outfit seems "unfinished." I wear heels because I have big feet and I don't care to emphasize that with flats. Indeed, pumps help "feminize" the line of the leg, which is why it is flattering on women anyway.
I also note that, from a guy's perspective, most women do not know how to dress in a flatering way. Most of the time, women I run into daily are frumpy and seem to not care how they appear. This may be different in New York and LA, but even in DC I was not so impressed. I live in the Boulder area - granola tree hugger country. Girls here dress like they are always out camping. With a dog. It's funny
There was a time when men and women took care in their appearance; this seems less the case today. All those wonderful outfits I see in Speigel, Newport News, Boston Proper and Lew Magram are rarely seen in real life, and I always wonder why. Instead, its jeans, flipflops, sweats, and oversized or undersized tops.
And as far as makeup, I try to keep it minimalist, but must also consider I am a guy and need to deemphasize the guyness. That does take a good deal more goop than women typically wear.
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I may be 51 but when it comes to clothes I like the styles that the younger women wear, problem is when I wear them they don't always look good on me, but quite often the clothes that older women wear look rather unsexy. For me I like a younger sexier look, its my preference, so short mini's, tighter tops are my preference and most recently shorter style wigs that don't have the old person look to them. I have a new wig that is shorter and it makes me look so much younger.
Simply, some of us are older but still want to dress in more contemporary styles when all possible. But understand as you do age, the styles some of us wear now were what young people wore way back when. When you reach 51 or 65, there will be the younger CD'ers complaining about the old women styles you will wear which you wore when they were hip and instyle.
As many sisters have said we all luv womens clothes the style's we wear should only concern ourselve, We all have womens clothes in common, we all have SO issues, family issues whether kids or parents know, people at work suspecting our preferences or what. Simply put we have more in common than we have differences. We Older gurls gain courage from you who are younger, and older gurls can often give advice on issues that you may be facing now which we may have already gone thru.
Don't give up on the forum, it is true there is a differnce in age and sometimes in styles but young or old we have too much in common and too much to learn from each other. Just don't be afraid to talk with older or younger sisters, you'd be surprised what you may learn.![]()
First of all I'm 29, and I can pass en femme. En drab I am often mistaken for being a graduate student in "his" early 20's.
Also Andrea makes some very valid points. Living in southern California, summer time brings girls in their 20's wearing tank tops, daisy duke shorts and flip flops. Not that I mind that. But its not possible to pull off completely wearing forms with a male v-shaped figure and size 13 feet, Dressing in a minor variation than I do en drab is quite frankly not as fun. However I have seen those styles worn by carrear minded feminists in corporate America. They wear heals and panty-hose, amongst us who wear ties and linen shirts and slacks to the office.
Strictly speaking from a financial perspective. The pink haze has taken a toll on my bank account from online catalogs. The outfits I buy often don't look right. So I'm often forced to pay return s/h for 1/3 the price of the outfit itself or keeping it knowing I will never wear it out. I sometimes have as much fashion sense as a lead pipe. Being able to talk about age appropriate modern looks, rather than buying styles that I think news anchors 10-15 years older look great in, I think would help us all achieve the ultimate goal of passing en femme as best we can as economically as possible.
I am 20 and I also wish there was a place more for us younger girls.
Well as an older guy / CD I can say I learn alot from the younger generation because they have been brought up in a less inhibited world where unisex dosen't seem all that bad. I dress pretty casual for a male and same as a CD but I always watch the youger generation and try to take a cue from them on the latest fashion. Jeans Jeans and Jeans are really in again and I think a t-shirt, jeans and a low heel area great to go out in .
What I haven't seen is alot of younger CD wanting to put themselfs out ther like you have I hope more will so you will have alot more to talk with.
What I also see is a lot of Younger CD's waiting around for years, missing the best time to dress and grow as a CD and TS until years later wishing they would have done something much younger when they looked better and didn't get the middle age bulge.
You go Metal Mistress get out there and do what makes you feel good. But if you need us We've here for you girl.
I'm joining this party way late, and to be honest, haven't read through the entire thread, but I thought I'd post my $.02 anyway
I think many times, people tend to dress towards what their own mental images of "femininity" are, and more often than not, it happens to be when they first started dressing which, for some of the older ladies could possibly be a different "style" than what is currently the style. Obviously that's not always the case, and there are always tons of exceptions to the rule, just saying I think that's one of the reasons.
Another, is depending on several mitigating factors (level of comfort, whether out or not, ability to explore new designs etc..), people might try to pack in as much femininity as possible during every dressing session. This would mean turning away from anything that is "mannish" or what have you with skirts, heels, bras, camis, etc taking center stage. I think for the most part, CD's are more often than not seen in skirts rather than pants, and are in camis or tops like that rather than tshirts.
Anyway, just my thoughts...
Anyone under 25 years old, with 10 (non spam/bumping) posts can apply to the young section. It's pretty cool and the climate is more geared toward college-aged people. I personally like that it's mixed up a bit with FtoM's as well. It doesn't move that fast right now, so come help that change![]()
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Who made those choices? Seems odd, since you're on the tail-end of "college age," and you'd have to leave the group yourself in less than 3 years... And some of us are in our 30's and going to college...
This thread should've shown you that plenty CDs in their early 40's are more interested in a look closer to "college age."
Not trying to sound cranky, but let me reiterate my point. There's nothing wrong with having a section for "younger members" if you want to talk about what it's like to be an 18-25yo CD -- older CDs have plenty experience in feeling left out, so they probably won't take it too hard. In this thread, though, you sounded at least as interested in talking about younger styles/looks from a fashion/beauty aspect. If that's what you want to talk about, there are already sections for that, and there is actually very little activity in those sections. You won't get drowned out if you bring up younger topics in the beauty or clothing forums, so there's no reason not to use them, instead of isolating yourself. I think you'll find the feedback you get from an invitation-only forum won't be nearly as good.
Younger people often tend to feel left out by society in general. This can be seen when they themselves split in to subgroups i.e. Goths, Preppies, Punks and the assorted lot. These splinter groups tend to lead to more isolation from the mainstream and sometimes they can have a devastating impact on functioning in a mixed society. Role playing groups may often be taken to extremes and cause developmental problems. I implore you to keep a balanced mix and not just hide in a closed door group reminiscent of when women in general were banned from men's social clubs.
I don't think that's happening, Dr. Susan. In fact, Mercury's initial post brought out dozens of young 'uns that had been registered but hadn't posted 'cos they thought that the threads were dominated by older age questions and issues.
The young un's agitated for a section of their own and won it. Yay! They can retreat there any time they want. But, have you noticed? A lot of the young ones are now posting regularly in the open threads, too.
So the young section has given them a little more confidence, which is good, and while discussing among themselves, they've also come out to interact with the rest of us more, too. Which is great!
You go, young beauties! No matter what you've got to say, plenty here want to hear it...
I wish I had the body for it! Age is just a number, a number that represents years. I've always felt that we were all young once, and will all be old some day. It's just a matter of time. If age is viewed this way, there is no generation gap.
But if you're over 50 and want to look ridiculous, try going out dressed as a teenage girl. And if you're under 25, don't go out lookin' frumpy.
Tina is just approaching her 3rd birthday. She's spent most of this time trying to learn and do it only very part time (having a teenager in the house makes anything private into a challenge!), so I'm delighted to have all the information available here. I also think that I've tended toward the dresses-stockings-heels-skirts directions because, frankly, I know how to wear jeans! It just happens that my wife prefers how I look in women's jeans, so I have very few male jeans at this point. I could easily put on so low-heeled shoes (if I owned any) and my lovely tight jeans with a top, wig, and light makeup and blend in pretty well, but dresses and skirts are much more of a challenge style-wise, and I enjoy the challenge! Casual, business, and dressy...I love it all and hope to have it all figured out to some competant level soon!
This is a great great thread!
Tina
Drats. A couple years too old for one side, not old enough for the other. Appears that I'm to continue on my own, as it has been and always will be.
well that thread was a long read MM I can totally understand your point I mean when I was your age I didnt have anything in common to talk about with my parents or any older generation for that matter. I like to still see myself as 20 something roughly when the avatar pic was takenDam that was 27 years ago dont know how it all went by so fast but it seems to keep speeding by . I hope the younger members sortof keep in touch with us oldfolks on the main site out here so we dont lose touch . Or we could just rename the main part of the board The Nursing Home lol time for a nap
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Good thread.We're all differant.Sometimes i just like to wear my clothes,casual like you mention,like you see "real women" wearing.Sometimes i like to dress like a "****" and sometimes inbetween.
Claire en femme,smart,casual and sexy!
It would be great to have a "Younger" thread that stops at 40. I am 39 and feel a sense of being the "middle generation" of crossdressers here. Also, the fetish component doesn't interest me, but that sort of thing seems unavoidable.
I must say that I am interested in learning more from the younger generation of crossdressers, as I imagine the Internet has played an integral role in shaping your approach and style. Also, it seems to me the younger generation is much more tolerant in general than older generations, including mine.
MM,
Good topic. (disclaimer): I haven't read all the posts. But, it seems like there's much support for the younger gals. I'm closing in on 40, but look younger, and keep myself in good shape.
I'm way too tall and muscular to pass, but as I'm a "home only" CDer, I often trend toward what the younger women do regarding dressing. Easy to wear and cute outfits that come from places like Clothestime and alloy.com.
I'm sure others have said the same, but don't despair, in the couple of years I've been on the board here, the membership has grown A LOT, and there's someone on here who will mirror your tastes and be able to give relevant advice.
-Sedona
Had I relied only on my age group for support, and advice, I am afraid I would have been quite miserable. Many heartaches were prevented by heeding the wise counsel of an Aunt, or Parent who had way more experience than I did. I found that my peers were so wrapped up in competing with one another, that many of them weren't terribly interesting after awhile. High school, especially. I try to learn from all people, no matter how many times their flesh has circled the sun. And then, of course, some people are to be avoided altogether.
Ya know? I've always been partial to white purses. I sure wish that there was a place for me to talk to others about white purse issues. No one else seems to quite understand. You know, like using them only after Easter, and making sure they match your shoes. And the whole white glove thing....well, you know! But alas, I have no one I can relate to here, because there is no section I can go to where the "white purse" crowd can be together and just discuss our issues. *Sob!* I guess I'll just have to persevere as best I can.
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