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I'm seeking to understand if you believe there is any connection between crossdressing and ethnicity or religion, and also if there is a prevalence of crossdressing amongst certain ethnic groups and/or religious groups.
Please do not turn this into a flame war!!! Serious answers only, please (humour accepted, only if appropriate and non-discriminatory).
Thanks.
Wow, that's something I've never thought about. I really don't think there is any more crossdressers in any religion than any other. I think the urge, or need to crossdress has nothing to do with what religion you are.
As for race, again it sure seems like you get CD'ers in just about every race. But,, I don't seem to see too many African-Americans crossdressing, or at least not coming out so we know. Interesting question, you just gave me an idea for a new post in my blog, thanks!
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I would be suprised if there was any difference between racial groups, or whatever. Some races and societies are better at incorporating and accepting it than others. But my opinion is that CD brain chemistry is human nature and so there are as many bonkers CD Muslims hiding somewhere as there are bonkers CD black, white, catholic etc etc hiding everywhere else.
MUSLIM: (In whisper). Can we come out of this closet now?
JEW: You want I die from shame?....... Nice head scarf.
MUSLIM: Thanks.
NAZI FASCIST: Ok we all go together.
JEW: Where to?
NAZI FASCIST: Poland looks good. They're very accepting.
JEW: You think you'll pass in Jack Boots?
JAQUE: Ee as my boots?
JEW: Not you stupid.
CATHOLIC: We're all going to hell.
NAZI: Is that in Poland?
OSAMA BIN LADEN: Stop pushing.
BJORK: $%frt£ closet Vren tagh vug?
PTANGPTANG: She has a point.
I had tended to notice ,or seem to pick out myself, that there are a lot of cd's who are of the anglo saxon persuasion. Myself being one of them. I have also noticed that the English comedians seem to have a proclivity for crossdressing in there acts more so than most others, Uncle Milty excluded of course. I do know that it is spread thoughout the various peoples of the Earth, but I had noticed the bend toward the English etc.. ancestry. Whatever it is I'm glad I am a cd no matter my ancestry, it makes me "whole". Just my 2 cents, pennies or dracma, Dael
cross dressing is more prevelant in the anglo community because we are the most noticed race and have better access to computers. I have read that asian societies are more open and will not discriminate like we do. The africian societies are not really visible worldwide because of their lack of computers. I have heard that muslim men have sex with each other premaritally and do not consider that gay. I also think that the clothing of the society where you live has some affect.
I think you could not get a good answer even if you put all the antropologists together and let them tell us.
We've said before that the majority of CDers are deep in the closet, so the actual prevalence of CDers in any community is very hard to gauge. The level of acceptance of CDing in a community would affect how many are brave enough to peep out of the closet.
What I'm saying in my roundabout way is that I expect the percentage of men with CDing urges is constant everywhere, but a greater or lesser proportion of these will be visible in any community depending on the level of disapproval.
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I think Robbie is right for the most part. Higher income in general gives anglos better computer access and more privacy and free time... So...we're more prevalent on line (on this english language site). But also notice that there are many sisters of color on our own forum.
We search Google and other engines in English for the most part, so it's English language sites we'll come up with most.
But there are dozens of Asian sites, many in Japan, many in Thailand, a few in the Phillipines.
There are French and Spanish anf Hindi language sites and fora.
There are several brutal videos on youtube of Arab crossdressers being harassed and jailed.
It would not surprise me if the percentage of crossdressers in any society is about the same. It's just that in the more permissive societies of the 'developed world', we tend to stand out a lot more.
Seen the hundreds of tranny sites that now come out of the former Soviet states? In the days of the Iron Curtain, governments there refused to admit the presence of gay people, much less CDs.
Would you walk the streets of Kampala/Bagdhad/Peking/PyongYang dressed if you knew it was a mandatory prison sentence in one of the most repressive or corrupt systems in the world? Would you dare to post to an internet forum where the government controls the internet? Me neither... There are millions of hidden sisters out there. Think about them now and again.
in a word, no.
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Unless someone can point to actual studies, anything said on this subject it just BS.
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Nope, way more primal than all of that and goes back to the beginning of the human species. The need for seeking gender balance supersedes any cultural or religious constructs and is essential for maintaining Universal balance.
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No. Why on earth would there be?
If it is due, as most seem to believe, to genetic reasons, it's not likely?
You'll find trans people of all shades and colours in London - previous times saw CDs in Egypt and the Roman Empire, Two Spirit native americans, you will find Hijra in India, Kathoey in Thailand..
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Salandra,
That's a very interesting response, as always. Please could you elucidate?
Thanks, Emily.
Last edited by Emily Anderson; 05-11-2008 at 06:48 PM.
Put simlpy Emily, the answer is within our own DNA. This is a bit complex for most to understand unless certain keys have been activated as the encoded information is tightly packed because of our current nature. As it says in the spaghetti sauce commercial though, "it's in there". Those who understand know what I'm talking about.
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i think that thereare crossdressers all thought time oild time and persen time and futer time. that there will allso be crossdressers
I imagine CDs different races, religions, whatever might be "out" to different degrees but as far as the per capita of CDs in any religion or race, nationality, I imagine it is all pretty much equal
This is a large part of some research i have been doing, actually.
I expected CD/TG to be related to certain cultures or societial sets, but it IS NOT. It is worldwide, throughout history. We SEE more of it in the developed world because we are the ones with televisions and computers. It seems that people of any race, religion, or economic status can be CD/TG.
I had kind of thought that CDing would be so prevalent in western men simply for a way to deal with the stresses of the modern world, but throughout written history, its present (and often was far more acceptable than it is today). Every TG i know (and many, many CDers!) the desire has manifested in early, early childhood....far sooner than society begins to form our minds, and certainly a 5 year old is not reacting to career or religious stress!
I think its just part of some of us, no matter where we come from. Pretty cool actually, pretty cool. Whether its a decision we make for ourselves once we begin to learn that boys and girls are "different" or it is something inborn, it sure is a powerful drive.
Terri
I think that in my ethnic group we tend to be a little more silent and not seen, however a small portion those who are seen in my race are D.Q. and some of our families look down and in some cases will attempt to keep you out of the family. This applies t the men for my family which a few are living with partners and they are not accepted at all by the family when the women who are also with partners are accepted. So imagine how it would be with a CD/TG/TS?
This applies to me.
LOLbut what is Bjork doing in there ?
And the Orwell connection ?
Lil...you didn't know that Bjork was actually one of us? I'd tell you her screen name, but she's still really embarrassed about having no fashion sense at all.LOL
And the Orwell connection ?
We got the ABBA 'girls' straightened out though, so I think we can even handle Bjork!
As for Ptangptang, that Python character is actualy Julie's SO!
(Sorry Julie...It was gonna slip out eventually!)
I don't know the stats on who is, which group has more or less, I feel that what may be more significant angle may be what is the impact or meaning have on a person from any specific religion or ethnic group.
I am Hispanic/Latina so gender roles, masculine -vs- feminine statuses, and good ole fashion machismo is very much in the culture. Although, the younger, 2nd - 3rd generation tend to be more accepting of just about everything.
Yet, having our Hispanic neighbors so close will always ensure the influnce of the culture among the boarder states, (I'm in Texas).
So, for me, a male being born in a very macho culture, not to mention, the good ole tough cowboy culture of Texas, it self makes me giving my masculine status to be feminine is quiet the violation. It maybe part of my particular attraction to being transgender itself for I never was all together comfortable assuming a totally masculine persona.
It's an interesting aspect of being transgender for me.
I only know one black cd but a hand full of black TS.
I believe that getting a true census of the CD world would be impossible. My feeling is that it is uniform thoughout all types of people. Some cultures or religions may be more accepting, so it would be easier to be "out". For me, my religion, or should I say the culture of my religion, makes it impossible to be "out", so I am very much in the closet.
BF
This may a bit off the topic but connected.
Over the years I have found that a higher percentage of people that crossdress are involved in the sciences or the arts.
I can't count how many have been involved in the computer business like I am.
This is only my opinion but it seems the the higher your intelligence the higher the probability that you are also a CD.
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I have a lot of nudist friends and none of them CD. I wonder why? :D
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